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	<title>Comments on: Nocturnal Rationalizations</title>
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	<description>The two-faced and famous have something new to worry about.</description>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey everyone,

The way (I'm pretty sure) it works is Stewart and Colbert can write for themselves and only themselves.  It's much like the situation Jay Leno was recently in.  Initially the WGA chided him for writing a monologue, but whoops, it turns out that's allowed.  "'A' Daily Show" and "The ColberT ReporT" are essentially twenty minute monologues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey everyone,</p>
<p>The way (I&#8217;m pretty sure) it works is Stewart and Colbert can write for themselves and only themselves.  It&#8217;s much like the situation Jay Leno was recently in.  Initially the WGA chided him for writing a monologue, but whoops, it turns out that&#8217;s allowed.  &#8220;&#8216;A&#8217; Daily Show&#8221; and &#8220;The ColberT ReporT&#8221; are essentially twenty minute monologues.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Scowl</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/01/09/517/#comment-545</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Scowl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at their audience. If Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert got sued by Viacom for refusing to break the strike -- for standing up to The Man, man! -- they would become like unto gods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at their audience. If Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert got sued by Viacom for refusing to break the strike &#8212; for standing up to The Man, man! &#8212; they would become like unto gods.</p>
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		<title>By: polk</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/01/09/517/#comment-543</link>
		<dc:creator>polk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I for one would not like to see people punished for being between a rock and a hard place like that. I would not like to see someone lose both of their jobs, essentially, for following the rules of only one of those jobs. 

I support the writers' goals. But I also have a lot of sympathy for those who have feet in multiple realms and are trying to navigate the waters, to woefully mix metaphors. Sympathy enough not to label them as deceivers for adapting well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I for one would not like to see people punished for being between a rock and a hard place like that. I would not like to see someone lose both of their jobs, essentially, for following the rules of only one of those jobs. </p>
<p>I support the writers&#8217; goals. But I also have a lot of sympathy for those who have feet in multiple realms and are trying to navigate the waters, to woefully mix metaphors. Sympathy enough not to label them as deceivers for adapting well.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Scowl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Scowl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"To not come back in the latter capacity could be seen as a breach of contract and have legal ramifications, I imagine."

And?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To not come back in the latter capacity could be seen as a breach of contract and have legal ramifications, I imagine.&#8221;</p>
<p>And?</p>
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		<title>By: polk</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/01/09/517/#comment-536</link>
		<dc:creator>polk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get the impression they didn't have a lot of choice in coming back. You can't forget that while these are writers, they are also contracted as on-air talent. To not come back in the latter capacity could be seen as a breach of contract and have legal ramifications, I imagine. 

And where does the line appear when it comes to writing?  If you have a general structure planned for a show, but no words, and then riff most of the words in real time but are good at it...is it writing?  If you maybe plan ahead a little in your head what to say, but never put it on paper and into a script...is it writing, or is it just being a damn good comedian with an improv background? (Colbert definitely has a lot of improv experience, I don't know about Stewart.)

I think if they were expected to not even think ahead, it's getting a bit ridiculous. They shouldn't have to be willfully unfunny in one of their jobs just to satisfy a strike in their other job.  Think of a freestyle dancer.  They may have a repertoire of moves, and think before they start about what order they may throw them in, or where on the floor they may travel to do so...but it's a far cry from a choreographed routine. But it still may be damn good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get the impression they didn&#8217;t have a lot of choice in coming back. You can&#8217;t forget that while these are writers, they are also contracted as on-air talent. To not come back in the latter capacity could be seen as a breach of contract and have legal ramifications, I imagine. </p>
<p>And where does the line appear when it comes to writing?  If you have a general structure planned for a show, but no words, and then riff most of the words in real time but are good at it&#8230;is it writing?  If you maybe plan ahead a little in your head what to say, but never put it on paper and into a script&#8230;is it writing, or is it just being a damn good comedian with an improv background? (Colbert definitely has a lot of improv experience, I don&#8217;t know about Stewart.)</p>
<p>I think if they were expected to not even think ahead, it&#8217;s getting a bit ridiculous. They shouldn&#8217;t have to be willfully unfunny in one of their jobs just to satisfy a strike in their other job.  Think of a freestyle dancer.  They may have a repertoire of moves, and think before they start about what order they may throw them in, or where on the floor they may travel to do so&#8230;but it&#8217;s a far cry from a choreographed routine. But it still may be damn good.</p>
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		<title>By: Flor</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/01/09/517/#comment-525</link>
		<dc:creator>Flor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's important to keep in mind that the writers are not the only people working on The Daily Show.  If Stewart refused to bring the show back many people would have lost their jobs.  I don't know whether he was right in coming back on air, but I can certainly understand why he did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s important to keep in mind that the writers are not the only people working on The Daily Show.  If Stewart refused to bring the show back many people would have lost their jobs.  I don&#8217;t know whether he was right in coming back on air, but I can certainly understand why he did.</p>
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