Comments on: V for Very Inconsistent http://deceiver.com/2008/02/27/v-for-very-inconsistent/ The two-faced and famous have something new to worry about. Sun, 12 Oct 2008 02:35:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Cat http://deceiver.com/2008/02/27/v-for-very-inconsistent/#comment-11282 Cat Thu, 02 Oct 2008 05:31:35 +0000 http://deceiver.com/2008/02/27/v-for-very-inconsistent/#comment-11282 Actually, most vegans say that shearing wool from sheep or cashmere from goats does harm the animal. Yes the wool or fur grows back but it is not the natural time for them to shed. Often it is done when it is cold out and many of the animals die because there is not enough care taken to make sure they stay warm. Also some get wounds from the shearing process which can become infected. Finally the animals undergo the same procedures as most slaughterhouses- dehorning, docking, and castration without painkillers. Conditions for mass production of the wool or fur are not good- overcrowding, poor diet, etc. All in all if you say you are vegan be vegan. Or else people who may have been inspired by you lose that desire themselves and see you as a hypocrite. Now I now I am condradicting myself but cut her a little slack! At least she is trying to make a difference. Actually, most vegans say that shearing wool from sheep or cashmere from goats does harm the animal. Yes the wool or fur grows back but it is not the natural time for them to shed. Often it is done when it is cold out and many of the animals die because there is not enough care taken to make sure they stay warm. Also some get wounds from the shearing process which can become infected. Finally the animals undergo the same procedures as most slaughterhouses- dehorning, docking, and castration without painkillers. Conditions for mass production of the wool or fur are not good- overcrowding, poor diet, etc. All in all if you say you are vegan be vegan. Or else people who may have been inspired by you lose that desire themselves and see you as a hypocrite. Now I now I am condradicting myself but cut her a little slack! At least she is trying to make a difference.

]]> By: Errin http://deceiver.com/2008/02/27/v-for-very-inconsistent/#comment-1867 Errin Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:38:29 +0000 http://deceiver.com/2008/02/27/v-for-very-inconsistent/#comment-1867 Hey, just because the interviewer noted that he/she THOUGHT the sweater was cashmere does not make it so. There are a lot of synthetic sweaters out there made to look like and feel like cashmere, just like there is synthetic silk for shirts and synthetic leather for shoes. I think this is really a case of the reporter getting it wrong. Natalie Portman seems to be very careful about her diet and her wardrobe, so I think we should look at this as reporter error and not her conscious choice to wear cashmere. Hey, just because the interviewer noted that he/she THOUGHT the sweater was cashmere does not make it so. There are a lot of synthetic sweaters out there made to look like and feel like cashmere, just like there is synthetic silk for shirts and synthetic leather for shoes. I think this is really a case of the reporter getting it wrong. Natalie Portman seems to be very careful about her diet and her wardrobe, so I think we should look at this as reporter error and not her conscious choice to wear cashmere.

]]> By: matt http://deceiver.com/2008/02/27/v-for-very-inconsistent/#comment-1460 matt Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:32:11 +0000 http://deceiver.com/2008/02/27/v-for-very-inconsistent/#comment-1460 OK, fair enough. :) OK, fair enough. :)

]]> By: Holly Won't http://deceiver.com/2008/02/27/v-for-very-inconsistent/#comment-1455 Holly Won't Fri, 29 Feb 2008 13:42:26 +0000 http://deceiver.com/2008/02/27/v-for-very-inconsistent/#comment-1455 I saw the Ecorazzi post too, but Goveg.com, Happycow.net, and Vegansociety.com all list her on their celebrity vegan pages. So it seems sometimes she is and sometimes she isn't. I saw the Ecorazzi post too, but Goveg.com, Happycow.net, and Vegansociety.com all list her on their celebrity vegan pages. So it seems sometimes she is and sometimes she isn’t.

]]> By: matt http://deceiver.com/2008/02/27/v-for-very-inconsistent/#comment-1453 matt Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:31:22 +0000 http://deceiver.com/2008/02/27/v-for-very-inconsistent/#comment-1453 But I thought Natalie Portman wasn't a vegan? http://www.ecorazzi.com/2007/11/27/natalie-portman-has-no-plans-to-go-vegan/ So I still don't see the hypocrisy... If I were to write a vegetarian cook book, while not being a vegetarian myself (say I occasionally eat fish), would that make me a hypocrite, because I'm making money of those who ARE vegetarians? I don't think it would - unless I claimed to be a vegetarian anyway, or said I'd never eat fish. IMHO. But I thought Natalie Portman wasn’t a vegan?

http://www.ecorazzi.com/2007/11/27/natalie-portman-has-no-plans-to-go-vegan/

So I still don’t see the hypocrisy… If I were to write a vegetarian cook book, while not being a vegetarian myself (say I occasionally eat fish), would that make me a hypocrite, because I’m making money of those who ARE vegetarians? I don’t think it would - unless I claimed to be a vegetarian anyway, or said I’d never eat fish. IMHO.

]]> By: Holly Won't http://deceiver.com/2008/02/27/v-for-very-inconsistent/#comment-1426 Holly Won't Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:29:48 +0000 http://deceiver.com/2008/02/27/v-for-very-inconsistent/#comment-1426 SillyBilly and Matt, part of veganism is not wearing clothing that comes from animals, including wool and silk. So as a vegan, she's not playing by the rules, but she's trying to make money off of those who do by selling her vegan shoes. SillyBilly and Matt, part of veganism is not wearing clothing that comes from animals, including wool and silk. So as a vegan, she’s not playing by the rules, but she’s trying to make money off of those who do by selling her vegan shoes.

]]> By: The Oversneer http://deceiver.com/2008/02/27/v-for-very-inconsistent/#comment-1424 The Oversneer Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:35:43 +0000 http://deceiver.com/2008/02/27/v-for-very-inconsistent/#comment-1424 SillyBilly -- Congratulations. You've just articulated a great argument for why self-professed vegans should make an exception for milk and eggs. Good luck trying to convince PETA. SillyBilly — Congratulations. You’ve just articulated a great argument for why self-professed vegans should make an exception for milk and eggs. Good luck trying to convince PETA.

]]> By: matt http://deceiver.com/2008/02/27/v-for-very-inconsistent/#comment-1422 matt Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:34:43 +0000 http://deceiver.com/2008/02/27/v-for-very-inconsistent/#comment-1422 I don't get the hypocrisy here... So she wears non-vegan clothing - so what? Did she ever say she only wears vegan clothing or something? I don’t get the hypocrisy here… So she wears non-vegan clothing - so what?
Did she ever say she only wears vegan clothing or something?

]]> By: SillyBilly http://deceiver.com/2008/02/27/v-for-very-inconsistent/#comment-1420 SillyBilly Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:09:13 +0000 http://deceiver.com/2008/02/27/v-for-very-inconsistent/#comment-1420 Granted it may not be vegan, but cashmere doesn't harm the animal it comes from - it's like any wool, it is shaved and grows back. So it's not exactly the same as wearing fur or leather, is it? Granted it may not be vegan, but cashmere doesn’t harm the animal it comes from - it’s like any wool, it is shaved and grows back. So it’s not exactly the same as wearing fur or leather, is it?

]]> By: Simon Scowl http://deceiver.com/2008/02/27/v-for-very-inconsistent/#comment-1413 Simon Scowl Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:09:52 +0000 http://deceiver.com/2008/02/27/v-for-very-inconsistent/#comment-1413 Lady AC is right: being a Harvard grad doesn't necessarily make you smart or informed. Lady AC is right: being a Harvard grad doesn’t necessarily make you smart or informed.

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