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	<description>The two-faced and famous have something new to worry about.</description>
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		<title>By: Stuart Studebaker</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/04/24/an-inconvenient-um-er/#comment-3206</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart Studebaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 14:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I attended a lecture last night. A scientist spoke about his findings and opinions. From his view, this is what's coming down the pike, no matter what we do - we will have an ice free arctic ocean by the end of the century, and Greenland will be clear of ice within 150 years. In his opinion the biggest problem are methane hydrates locked up in the permafrost. If that all goes, then we're looking at a Permian Level Extinction Event.

I attended an atmospheric science conference last year. The things they could say with near-dead certainty of today weren't that extreme, but the fear behind their eyes was palpable. 

We need to cap and then reduce the use of fossil fuels immediately. No exceptions, anywhere. It has to be global, and it has to be fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attended a lecture last night. A scientist spoke about his findings and opinions. From his view, this is what&#8217;s coming down the pike, no matter what we do - we will have an ice free arctic ocean by the end of the century, and Greenland will be clear of ice within 150 years. In his opinion the biggest problem are methane hydrates locked up in the permafrost. If that all goes, then we&#8217;re looking at a Permian Level Extinction Event.</p>
<p>I attended an atmospheric science conference last year. The things they could say with near-dead certainty of today weren&#8217;t that extreme, but the fear behind their eyes was palpable. </p>
<p>We need to cap and then reduce the use of fossil fuels immediately. No exceptions, anywhere. It has to be global, and it has to be fast.</p>
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		<title>By: em_etib</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/04/24/an-inconvenient-um-er/#comment-2845</link>
		<dc:creator>em_etib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(and those who say it’s “a liberal agenda” and those “liberals” scream about it all time… I tend to look at the evidence and listen to the scientists when it comes to something like this…not the opining of Dr. O’Reilly, Dr. Hannity or Druggie Limbaugh.)

It is painfully clear which side you ah, lean.  Did you actually LISTEN to O'Reilly's comments when Gore was up for the Oscar?  He didn't care if Gore got an Oscar or not, didn't really comment on 'global warming' but rather stated that if all this 'globale warming/climate change' made people more aware about pollution and the like, then it was ok by him.  Try listening next time and not just disregarding the information because the speaker does not follow your liberal religion.

(Moreover, I noticed Gore prefaced that particular shot by saying something like: “If one were to fly in a helicopter.” Using the “IF” statement, imho, takes away any possible hope of debunking his work based on this his particular clip.)

He used a fake, computer generated clip.  Why not use actual footage?  Is it not as pretty?  Was the ice not quite melted enough?  He had several 'facts' incorrect in his ah, 'film'.  The guy made the film because he doesn't want to be remember as the 'guy who lost to Bush by this much'.  Now his a an Oscar and Peace Prize for this piece of nonsense?  Please, give me a break.  You have to ask yourself just how rich did he get off of this?  How rich is getting off of the whole scam?  PLENTY; don't buy into the 'sky is falling' theory just because some fat ex-pol says so.  That's what he's got all his Hollywood types for. 
 
(It’s going to take Florida going underwater for all of the dumb***es in here to admit they were wrong,)

When Florida is under water I will gladly admit to my mistakes about this whole thing.  Give me a call when that happens, 'k? Should I hold my breath as to not further pollute the earth with my C02?  

(The enviro-NIMBY’s prevention of increasing OUR oil production is another. Who pays the price? The great unwashed masses are now spending a substantial percentage of thier paycheck on day to day survival thanks to the ignorant feel-good policies of the ivory-tower policy makers.

Sensible oil production, with the US Gov’t leasing lands and putting the profits to benifit the Citizens would not only benifit the our Country’s owners (that is us, for those who did not take American Civics) but would be more environmentaly responsible than shipping it across thousands of miles of oceans. It may even restore sanity to the prices at the pumps.

To call for energy independance out of one side of your mouth and condeming in-house oil production while awaiting some miricle alternitive-energy source is hypocritical.)

Absolutley correct.


(to cows farting)

Let's just cork the cows!

(you have to take in consideration the life style that humans have right now is effecting the earth and our bodies.)

I agree with this.  People ARE polluting the earth, which is bad.  Big corporations feed this waste by continually offering 'multi-packaged' items; 'disposable' items; 'hummers' and the like; by ignoring protocols and just paying the fines when caught polluting; etc, etc, etc.  Global warming or climate change (notice how the 'C02/carbon footprint' lingo has slowly faded away?) whatever its called today is a bunch of alarmists making a buck on people's fear and ignorance.  However, man has polluted the earth since the beginning and it has continually gotten worse.  If all this rah-rah cleans the earth up, then its fine by me.  But my guess is that this will all fall out of favor just as soon as the climate 'stabilizes' and some other crises takes its place.  This whole topic was big news some 30 years ago.  We were all going to melt from the increase in temps and the like.  Whats old is new again.  Everything is cyclical, including the weather.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(and those who say it’s “a liberal agenda” and those “liberals” scream about it all time… I tend to look at the evidence and listen to the scientists when it comes to something like this…not the opining of Dr. O’Reilly, Dr. Hannity or Druggie Limbaugh.)</p>
<p>It is painfully clear which side you ah, lean.  Did you actually LISTEN to O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s comments when Gore was up for the Oscar?  He didn&#8217;t care if Gore got an Oscar or not, didn&#8217;t really comment on &#8216;global warming&#8217; but rather stated that if all this &#8216;globale warming/climate change&#8217; made people more aware about pollution and the like, then it was ok by him.  Try listening next time and not just disregarding the information because the speaker does not follow your liberal religion.</p>
<p>(Moreover, I noticed Gore prefaced that particular shot by saying something like: “If one were to fly in a helicopter.” Using the “IF” statement, imho, takes away any possible hope of debunking his work based on this his particular clip.)</p>
<p>He used a fake, computer generated clip.  Why not use actual footage?  Is it not as pretty?  Was the ice not quite melted enough?  He had several &#8216;facts&#8217; incorrect in his ah, &#8216;film&#8217;.  The guy made the film because he doesn&#8217;t want to be remember as the &#8216;guy who lost to Bush by this much&#8217;.  Now his a an Oscar and Peace Prize for this piece of nonsense?  Please, give me a break.  You have to ask yourself just how rich did he get off of this?  How rich is getting off of the whole scam?  PLENTY; don&#8217;t buy into the &#8217;sky is falling&#8217; theory just because some fat ex-pol says so.  That&#8217;s what he&#8217;s got all his Hollywood types for. </p>
<p>(It’s going to take Florida going underwater for all of the dumb***es in here to admit they were wrong,)</p>
<p>When Florida is under water I will gladly admit to my mistakes about this whole thing.  Give me a call when that happens, &#8216;k? Should I hold my breath as to not further pollute the earth with my C02?  </p>
<p>(The enviro-NIMBY’s prevention of increasing OUR oil production is another. Who pays the price? The great unwashed masses are now spending a substantial percentage of thier paycheck on day to day survival thanks to the ignorant feel-good policies of the ivory-tower policy makers.</p>
<p>Sensible oil production, with the US Gov’t leasing lands and putting the profits to benifit the Citizens would not only benifit the our Country’s owners (that is us, for those who did not take American Civics) but would be more environmentaly responsible than shipping it across thousands of miles of oceans. It may even restore sanity to the prices at the pumps.</p>
<p>To call for energy independance out of one side of your mouth and condeming in-house oil production while awaiting some miricle alternitive-energy source is hypocritical.)</p>
<p>Absolutley correct.</p>
<p>(to cows farting)</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s just cork the cows!</p>
<p>(you have to take in consideration the life style that humans have right now is effecting the earth and our bodies.)</p>
<p>I agree with this.  People ARE polluting the earth, which is bad.  Big corporations feed this waste by continually offering &#8216;multi-packaged&#8217; items; &#8216;disposable&#8217; items; &#8216;hummers&#8217; and the like; by ignoring protocols and just paying the fines when caught polluting; etc, etc, etc.  Global warming or climate change (notice how the &#8216;C02/carbon footprint&#8217; lingo has slowly faded away?) whatever its called today is a bunch of alarmists making a buck on people&#8217;s fear and ignorance.  However, man has polluted the earth since the beginning and it has continually gotten worse.  If all this rah-rah cleans the earth up, then its fine by me.  But my guess is that this will all fall out of favor just as soon as the climate &#8217;stabilizes&#8217; and some other crises takes its place.  This whole topic was big news some 30 years ago.  We were all going to melt from the increase in temps and the like.  Whats old is new again.  Everything is cyclical, including the weather.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/04/24/an-inconvenient-um-er/#comment-2819</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NEWS ALERT!

There is climate change.  It's been happening ever since there was a climate.  800 years ago there were farms on the south shore of Greenland and houses in Scotland and Holland were built without chimneys.  Two hundred years later the Zuider Zee (same area) would freeze over solid.  Salt water doesn't freeze until well below 32 degrees.  Several thousand years ago there was a chunk of ice sitting where the Great Lakes are now about a mile thick. All of the man-made carbon dioxide adds up to about 1% of the natural level present.  As a side note, when farmers pump carbon dioxide into real greenhouses, plant growth increases and CO2 levels drop below normal.  Why would that not happen in the real world?  And how do you know it isn't happening?

Despite all the claims of proof by the Gore crowd, I have seen no reproducible experiments that show cause and effect.  The actual mechanism is supposed to be a change in the Earth's albedo, the amount of energy reflected and reradiated into space.  The jump in carbon dioxide is supposedly increasing the absorption of infrared light, causing warming.  The problem is, the biggest effect on albedo is the amount of global clouds at any given time, and their location.  Until you can account for any changes in that factor, you cannot prove if the IR absorption has increased.  Small problem, there aren't enough weather satellites to watch a serious fraction of the globe's surface at the same time, so we don't know how much cloud cover there is. 

The amazing thing to me is how easy it is to sell Gore's nonsense to some people.</description>
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<p>There is climate change.  It&#8217;s been happening ever since there was a climate.  800 years ago there were farms on the south shore of Greenland and houses in Scotland and Holland were built without chimneys.  Two hundred years later the Zuider Zee (same area) would freeze over solid.  Salt water doesn&#8217;t freeze until well below 32 degrees.  Several thousand years ago there was a chunk of ice sitting where the Great Lakes are now about a mile thick. All of the man-made carbon dioxide adds up to about 1% of the natural level present.  As a side note, when farmers pump carbon dioxide into real greenhouses, plant growth increases and CO2 levels drop below normal.  Why would that not happen in the real world?  And how do you know it isn&#8217;t happening?</p>
<p>Despite all the claims of proof by the Gore crowd, I have seen no reproducible experiments that show cause and effect.  The actual mechanism is supposed to be a change in the Earth&#8217;s albedo, the amount of energy reflected and reradiated into space.  The jump in carbon dioxide is supposedly increasing the absorption of infrared light, causing warming.  The problem is, the biggest effect on albedo is the amount of global clouds at any given time, and their location.  Until you can account for any changes in that factor, you cannot prove if the IR absorption has increased.  Small problem, there aren&#8217;t enough weather satellites to watch a serious fraction of the globe&#8217;s surface at the same time, so we don&#8217;t know how much cloud cover there is. </p>
<p>The amazing thing to me is how easy it is to sell Gore&#8217;s nonsense to some people.</p>
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		<title>By: imriteurwrong</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/04/24/an-inconvenient-um-er/#comment-2816</link>
		<dc:creator>imriteurwrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being environmentaly responsible is good sense, but knee-jerk cure-all remedies are causing undo suffering around the world, and the poor are the hardest hit-the bio fuel debacle is a prime example. 

The enviro-NIMBY's prevention of increasing OUR oil production is another. Who pays the price? The great unwashed masses are now spending a substantial percentage of thier paycheck on day to day survival thanks to the ignorant feel-good policies of the ivory-tower policy makers.

Sensible oil production, with the US Gov't leasing lands and putting the profits to benifit the Citizens would not only benifit the our Country's owners (that is us, for those who did not take American Civics) but would be more environmentaly responsible than shipping it across thousands of miles of oceans. It may even restore sanity to the prices at the pumps.

To call for energy independance out of one side of your mouth and condeming in-house oil production while awaiting some miricle alternitive-energy source is hypocritical.

We need to stop the panicing and start thinking logicaly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being environmentaly responsible is good sense, but knee-jerk cure-all remedies are causing undo suffering around the world, and the poor are the hardest hit-the bio fuel debacle is a prime example. </p>
<p>The enviro-NIMBY&#8217;s prevention of increasing OUR oil production is another. Who pays the price? The great unwashed masses are now spending a substantial percentage of thier paycheck on day to day survival thanks to the ignorant feel-good policies of the ivory-tower policy makers.</p>
<p>Sensible oil production, with the US Gov&#8217;t leasing lands and putting the profits to benifit the Citizens would not only benifit the our Country&#8217;s owners (that is us, for those who did not take American Civics) but would be more environmentaly responsible than shipping it across thousands of miles of oceans. It may even restore sanity to the prices at the pumps.</p>
<p>To call for energy independance out of one side of your mouth and condeming in-house oil production while awaiting some miricle alternitive-energy source is hypocritical.</p>
<p>We need to stop the panicing and start thinking logicaly.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Scowl</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/04/24/an-inconvenient-um-er/#comment-2815</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Scowl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Still theres no denying what were doing now is not effecting the earth.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Still theres no denying what were doing now is not effecting the earth.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well said.</p>
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		<title>By: Tia</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/04/24/an-inconvenient-um-er/#comment-2808</link>
		<dc:creator>Tia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 00:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perhaps climate change is the result of natural causes. Still theres no denying what were doing now is not effecting the earth. whats so bad about living a sustainable green life style? everybodey wins. the planet and our health</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perhaps climate change is the result of natural causes. Still theres no denying what were doing now is not effecting the earth. whats so bad about living a sustainable green life style? everybodey wins. the planet and our health</p>
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		<title>By: Pastafarian</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/04/24/an-inconvenient-um-er/#comment-2806</link>
		<dc:creator>Pastafarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Global Warming panic mongers are wrong. Plain and simple.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/04/nasa_measures_global_temperatu.html

http://www.junkscience.com/

You gotta actually read the articles. You can't just dismiss it because it questions what is, essentially, your religion. I can cut, and paste them here all day long. This is basically from NASA. So you can't blame the big oil boogie man. The other is just a good place to start.

The Earth might be getting warmer. But it's not because of people. You're wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Global Warming panic mongers are wrong. Plain and simple.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/04/nasa_measures_global_temperatu.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/04/nasa_measures_global_temperatu.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.junkscience.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.junkscience.com/</a></p>
<p>You gotta actually read the articles. You can&#8217;t just dismiss it because it questions what is, essentially, your religion. I can cut, and paste them here all day long. This is basically from NASA. So you can&#8217;t blame the big oil boogie man. The other is just a good place to start.</p>
<p>The Earth might be getting warmer. But it&#8217;s not because of people. You&#8217;re wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff g</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/04/24/an-inconvenient-um-er/#comment-2803</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 15:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point of this video isn't that global warming isn't real.  The video isn't even about a scientific point being faked.

Global warming is real.  It's going to take Florida going underwater for all of the dumb***es in here to admit they were wrong, but it'll happen.  God knows Bushie isn't doing much..  He's only just recently admitted to Global warming being real at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point of this video isn&#8217;t that global warming isn&#8217;t real.  The video isn&#8217;t even about a scientific point being faked.</p>
<p>Global warming is real.  It&#8217;s going to take Florida going underwater for all of the dumb***es in here to admit they were wrong, but it&#8217;ll happen.  God knows Bushie isn&#8217;t doing much..  He&#8217;s only just recently admitted to Global warming being real at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Scowl</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/04/24/an-inconvenient-um-er/#comment-2797</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Scowl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 02:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Wow, are all the sound arguments against the writing of “Simon Scowl” deleted? That’s pretty weak.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I couldn't very well call myself a fascist if I didn't try to repress dissent, could I? Curses, foiled again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Wow, are all the sound arguments against the writing of “Simon Scowl” deleted? That’s pretty weak.</p></blockquote>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t very well call myself a fascist if I didn&#8217;t try to repress dissent, could I? Curses, foiled again!</p>
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		<title>By: Lily</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/04/24/an-inconvenient-um-er/#comment-2794</link>
		<dc:creator>Lily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what if its just a clip from a movie? so what?! Its purpose is to demonstrate what WILL happen via climate change, whether natural or not. Ice caps are melting fast and no one can deny that. The north polar has grown disturbingly smaller each year. 

Though i believe in global warming, even if you dont, you have to take in consideration the life style that humans have right now is effecting the earth and our bodies. The pollution, the unnatural toxins in our food today. Its incredibly sick. Our bodies are going crazy, no wonder cancer rates are on the rise!!!

WE NEED CHANGE. we must change to save ourselves and the planet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what if its just a clip from a movie? so what?! Its purpose is to demonstrate what WILL happen via climate change, whether natural or not. Ice caps are melting fast and no one can deny that. The north polar has grown disturbingly smaller each year. </p>
<p>Though i believe in global warming, even if you dont, you have to take in consideration the life style that humans have right now is effecting the earth and our bodies. The pollution, the unnatural toxins in our food today. Its incredibly sick. Our bodies are going crazy, no wonder cancer rates are on the rise!!!</p>
<p>WE NEED CHANGE. we must change to save ourselves and the planet</p>
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