But as for Sherri Shepard, does anyone actually watch “The View”? She is a joke, she is completely clueless as to half of the issues that the other women discuss. This woman is a complete idiot and should not be allowed to say a single word on television! I CANNOT believe that BABA Walters was stupid enough to hire this woman to sit on the same stage with these women and try to pretend like she knows what the hell she is talking about!!!

Easy, tiger. You do know that there is a CAP LOCK function on the keyboard, don’t you?

Then again, a lot of atheists I know fight really dirty, so maybe it’s best to agree to disagree on a topic that has no middle ground before someone looses an eye

That is where I disagree with you Rocko. Going back over your posts, you are splitting some mighty fine hairs here and there. And I agree 100% that “every life has a right to live and thrive, but life isn’t fair”. You are correct. In a perfect world we wouldn’t have abortions or murders or tax evaders. Probably not taxes, either, but I see your point. Life isn’t fair.

No two situations are ever exactly alike, so we cannot pass a blanket judgment. I was just taking the side of the one who doesn’t have a voice. As Chronic Malanga said, we can only really speak for ourselves. Non-legal abortions ARE a nightmare, so that is where things stand today. Abortions are legal. I do not equate taking a life with murder, and that makes the debate even harder. Still taking a life because of *insert reason here* is still taking a life in the end. Not my place to judge the motive, but it is human nature to do so anyway.

I hate this debate, but now I feel compelled to jump in. First of all, I am pro-choice with limitations. While I myself highly doubt that I could ever go through with an abortion despite the fact that my husband and I have chosen never to have children and accidents can happen, I don’t know that I could personally do it. This, of course, is coming from a position of good circumstances. I am in a stable relationship, and while we are not rolling in the money, we have the means to raise a child. In other words, while I would never want the responsibility of motherhood, and would not want to give up the lifestyle I have now, I feel that I would have no excuse to have an abortion if ever I got pregnant. We take precautions against the possibility as though we were teenagers unable to handle the possibility.

Were I 15, alone, and unable to deal with the responsibility of a pregnancy and raising a child, I don’t know what I would do. I have never found myself in that position. But I know someone who has. It was never my place to tell that friend what to do about the predicament, only to support whatever she chose. She chose abortion, and I supported her in that without judgement because I knew that that child would be born into and it wasn’t pretty. It was not an easy choice for her, but I feel it is important and fortunate that she had that choice. Legal or not, women will have abortions, and there is no reason a woman should have to go through a knitting needle abortion in her own bathroom that could kill her if that is what she feels she needs to do.

When a woman doesn’t learn the lesson the first time, and decides that abortion is a free pass and a form of birth control, I lose respect. She is not doing her body any favors, and it is then that I feel she is taking human life for granted. I don’t believe that most women are like this, and if I did, I would have no faith in humanity. But as a woman, I would never believe that this sort of woman represents the majority.

I’m not going to touch the argument on the rights of the father. I have a mixed opinion on that which would not serve this post well. However, this is what the resident atheist thinks, and I really don’t feel that it is fair, Rocko, to assume that atheists have no sense of compassion.

You’re talking like being responsible for another human being is a equivalent to not killing that human being. There are people who have children who aren’t responsible for them anyway. Becoming pregnant isn’t a responsibility, it’s an action. People are responsible for their actions. Whatever is done as a result of that action is the responsible thing. Whether you like it or not. Responsibility isn’t having a child. Taking care of the that little life is the responsible act. Taking responsibility for that life may mean deciding to end that life. No, I don’t think it’s fair and I don’t agree with the decision because I think every life has a right to live and thrive but life isn’t fair and sometimes people’s rights gets trampled on. And trampled on legally.

But anyway I’m done with this thread, I feel like I’m arguing with atheists.