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		<title>By: Snoop-Diggity-DANG-Dawg</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/09/16/mccain-mac-moron-or-microprocessor-maven/comment-page-2/#comment-10606</link>
		<dc:creator>Snoop-Diggity-DANG-Dawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Those principals led me to the Democratic Party. I believe in helping the poor and lifting people up not holding them down and stealing their pensions. Those are corporate beliefs.&quot;

That is &lt;em&gt;so&lt;/em&gt; funny, Edith Ann.  You know why?  Because the rest of us believe in stealing your pension, stomping on the por, NOT voluteering for anything, and keeping people like your drug-addled nephew living on your couch for the rest of his life.

Maybe someday we can all learn the Democratic party&#039;s wisdom of aborting the troubled people in this world like Trig and said nephew.  Why don&#039;t you call Jesus Christ on your red phone and run those thoughts by him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Those principals led me to the Democratic Party. I believe in helping the poor and lifting people up not holding them down and stealing their pensions. Those are corporate beliefs.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is <em>so</em> funny, Edith Ann.  You know why?  Because the rest of us believe in stealing your pension, stomping on the por, NOT voluteering for anything, and keeping people like your drug-addled nephew living on your couch for the rest of his life.</p>
<p>Maybe someday we can all learn the Democratic party&#8217;s wisdom of aborting the troubled people in this world like Trig and said nephew.  Why don&#8217;t you call Jesus Christ on your red phone and run those thoughts by him?</p>
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		<title>By: Edith Ann</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/09/16/mccain-mac-moron-or-microprocessor-maven/comment-page-2/#comment-10600</link>
		<dc:creator>Edith Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are 50 different state Medicaid programs. Each state controls how they spend the money.  I&#039;m only talking about my state. This isn&#039;t a Demo, Repub thing.  It may come down to that in each state but I&#039;m only talking about my state.  My nephew needs medical help.  He goes to the ER when he needs to, but he needs corrective surgery on an old injury. Our state medicaid program said no.  He&#039;s only 29 and may end up with a life long disability because of this.  He can&#039;t keep a job, so alot of this is his problem.  He could get a job and stay long enough to get insurance to take care of this but he doesn&#039;t.  He has mental heath issues and substance abuse issues but no treatment program to help. We only have one state hospital now to meet out mental health needs.  We tend to put our mental patients in jail.  We have a lot of jails. In my state this is a Rebub. lead issue as they control the state house.

The Congress passed SCHIP but had to override the President&#039;s veto to do it.  That&#039;s the children&#039;s program.  HEW is trying to regulate how the states allocate the money by their policy and proceedures.  They are always trying to cut people out, but these are children.
  
There is no point in arguing about this.  I see the results of this everyday.  I have a person in front of me who is scared and lost and has no were to turn.  This appears to be an intellectual exercise for you.  I hope that is always the case. Go volunteer some place and help someone.  It won&#039;t cost you any money and it may lift your spirits and give you new insights.

My views are determined by the Christian principles I learned as a child.  Those principals led me to the Democratic Party.  I believe in helping the poor and lifting people up not holding them down and stealing their pensions.  Those are corporate beliefs. Jesus was an activist who fought against the money changers.  As far as I know no one has rewritten the Bible yet, but everyone&#039;s entitled to their opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are 50 different state Medicaid programs. Each state controls how they spend the money.  I&#8217;m only talking about my state. This isn&#8217;t a Demo, Repub thing.  It may come down to that in each state but I&#8217;m only talking about my state.  My nephew needs medical help.  He goes to the ER when he needs to, but he needs corrective surgery on an old injury. Our state medicaid program said no.  He&#8217;s only 29 and may end up with a life long disability because of this.  He can&#8217;t keep a job, so alot of this is his problem.  He could get a job and stay long enough to get insurance to take care of this but he doesn&#8217;t.  He has mental heath issues and substance abuse issues but no treatment program to help. We only have one state hospital now to meet out mental health needs.  We tend to put our mental patients in jail.  We have a lot of jails. In my state this is a Rebub. lead issue as they control the state house.</p>
<p>The Congress passed SCHIP but had to override the President&#8217;s veto to do it.  That&#8217;s the children&#8217;s program.  HEW is trying to regulate how the states allocate the money by their policy and proceedures.  They are always trying to cut people out, but these are children.</p>
<p>There is no point in arguing about this.  I see the results of this everyday.  I have a person in front of me who is scared and lost and has no were to turn.  This appears to be an intellectual exercise for you.  I hope that is always the case. Go volunteer some place and help someone.  It won&#8217;t cost you any money and it may lift your spirits and give you new insights.</p>
<p>My views are determined by the Christian principles I learned as a child.  Those principals led me to the Democratic Party.  I believe in helping the poor and lifting people up not holding them down and stealing their pensions.  Those are corporate beliefs. Jesus was an activist who fought against the money changers.  As far as I know no one has rewritten the Bible yet, but everyone&#8217;s entitled to their opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/09/16/mccain-mac-moron-or-microprocessor-maven/comment-page-2/#comment-10592</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 04:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has already been established (at NewsBusters; at BizzyBlog) that the Obama campaign&#039;s ad ridiculing John McCain&#039;s computer skills, including the claim that McCain &quot;can&#039;t e-mail,&quot; has several reality-based problems:

http://www.bizzyblog.com/2008/09/14/more-on-obama-cant-e-mail-attack-ad-mccain-an-internet-pioneer-per-dem-internet-pioneer/

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/09/17/olbermann-echoes-thinkprogress-lies-smear-palin

&lt;strong&gt;Note: I replaced the full text in this comment with links to the same material (above). No need to re-invent the wheel.&lt;em&gt;  -The Oversneer&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has already been established (at NewsBusters; at BizzyBlog) that the Obama campaign&#8217;s ad ridiculing John McCain&#8217;s computer skills, including the claim that McCain &#8220;can&#8217;t e-mail,&#8221; has several reality-based problems:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bizzyblog.com/2008/09/14/more-on-obama-cant-e-mail-attack-ad-mccain-an-internet-pioneer-per-dem-internet-pioneer/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bizzyblog.com/2008/09/14/more-on-obama-cant-e-mail-attack-ad-mccain-an-internet-pioneer-per-dem-internet-pioneer/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/09/17/olbermann-echoes-thinkprogress-lies-smear-palin" rel="nofollow">http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/09/17/olbermann-echoes-thinkprogress-lies-smear-palin</a></p>
<p><strong>Note: I replaced the full text in this comment with links to the same material (above). No need to re-invent the wheel.<em>  -The Oversneer</em></strong></p>
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		<title>By: Simon Scowl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Scowl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Snoop, Palin increased funding by less of an amount than they wanted her to!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Snoop, Palin increased funding by less of an amount than they wanted her to!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah yeah, I know, anyone who doesn&#039;t agree with you is just ignorant of the facts (sound familiar to anyone who&#039;s ever argued with a liberal?).  We&#039;re cutting kids health care!!  Except that in my state (Indiana if you care to check and see how right I am) we just passed two new programs that cover anyone who doesn&#039;t have insurance.  Children (up to 21 if they go to college) get free coverage if their household income is under like 50k a year.  Adults are covered with a small co-pay.  This is to replace a program called Hoosier Healthwise, which happens to be the one I was put on after my surgery to pay for it like a decade ago.

Now, this is in a state that hasn&#039;t been blue for more than 70 years - so why aren&#039;t the Republican criminals cutting these children off from health care?  Because only in your mind, and Democratic propaganda, are people so callous and awful that they would deny care to needy children.  

However, programs like the one I just mentioned are already in place in most states.  We just don&#039;t see a need to cover people WHO ALREADY HAVE PRIVATE INSURRANCE.  Private insurance works for far more people than it hurts, and if you can find numbers to the contrary, me and about a gazillion trial lawyers would love to see &#039;em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah yeah, I know, anyone who doesn&#8217;t agree with you is just ignorant of the facts (sound familiar to anyone who&#8217;s ever argued with a liberal?).  We&#8217;re cutting kids health care!!  Except that in my state (Indiana if you care to check and see how right I am) we just passed two new programs that cover anyone who doesn&#8217;t have insurance.  Children (up to 21 if they go to college) get free coverage if their household income is under like 50k a year.  Adults are covered with a small co-pay.  This is to replace a program called Hoosier Healthwise, which happens to be the one I was put on after my surgery to pay for it like a decade ago.</p>
<p>Now, this is in a state that hasn&#8217;t been blue for more than 70 years &#8211; so why aren&#8217;t the Republican criminals cutting these children off from health care?  Because only in your mind, and Democratic propaganda, are people so callous and awful that they would deny care to needy children.  </p>
<p>However, programs like the one I just mentioned are already in place in most states.  We just don&#8217;t see a need to cover people WHO ALREADY HAVE PRIVATE INSURRANCE.  Private insurance works for far more people than it hurts, and if you can find numbers to the contrary, me and about a gazillion trial lawyers would love to see &#8216;em.</p>
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		<title>By: Snoop-Diggity-DANG-Dawg</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/09/16/mccain-mac-moron-or-microprocessor-maven/comment-page-1/#comment-10554</link>
		<dc:creator>Snoop-Diggity-DANG-Dawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They want to stop care for kids and will when they get enough votes.&quot;

This is the kind of paranoid BS that just leaves me shaking my head when I make an effort to listen to liberal thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They want to stop care for kids and will when they get enough votes.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the kind of paranoid BS that just leaves me shaking my head when I make an effort to listen to liberal thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Snoop-Diggity-DANG-Dawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snoop-Diggity-DANG-Dawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Scott.</description>
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		<title>By: Edith Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edith Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are in for a rude awakening. You need to wake up, we refuse to treat dialysis pt&#039;s right now who have no insurance.  True they can go to the ER, but free standing dialysis units will not admit pt&#039;s without insurance right now today.  Not all pt&#039;s are eligible for Medicare, some haven&#039;t worked enough quarters.  Not all are eligible for Medicaid. ER&#039;s won&#039;t treat them forever without money.  Insurance companies refuse life saving tx&#039;s all the time.  Watch the 6:00 news. An appendix operation now will cost upwards of $40,000.  In my state they did away with helping 21-65 year old working people a long time ago. Voc Rehab use to help with care to get someone back to work.  They stopped that a long time ago.  State legislatures and congress keep cutting budgets and leaving people out.  They want to stop care for kids and will when they get enough votes.  Keep your head in the sand it will feel better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are in for a rude awakening. You need to wake up, we refuse to treat dialysis pt&#8217;s right now who have no insurance.  True they can go to the ER, but free standing dialysis units will not admit pt&#8217;s without insurance right now today.  Not all pt&#8217;s are eligible for Medicare, some haven&#8217;t worked enough quarters.  Not all are eligible for Medicaid. ER&#8217;s won&#8217;t treat them forever without money.  Insurance companies refuse life saving tx&#8217;s all the time.  Watch the 6:00 news. An appendix operation now will cost upwards of $40,000.  In my state they did away with helping 21-65 year old working people a long time ago. Voc Rehab use to help with care to get someone back to work.  They stopped that a long time ago.  State legislatures and congress keep cutting budgets and leaving people out.  They want to stop care for kids and will when they get enough votes.  Keep your head in the sand it will feel better.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edith - Yeah, we have HMOs already, the question is; do you want the whole country to be like that?  Because that&#039;s what is going to happen if we keep punishing the &#039;evil insurance companies&#039; and decide to join the already failed socialized health care experiment.  

&quot;Just for my information, who do you want to leave out of the medical system? Who is expendable in your mind? Just want to know&quot;

Hyperbole, and if you &#039;work with doctors&#039; (sorry I misunderstood you earlier) you would know that.  No one needing treatment is ever denied.  Between high school and joining the Marines I didn&#039;t have insurance for more than a year and a half.  After a whole lifetime of no health problems besides tonsil removal and half a dozen broken bones, my appendix picked that exact time frame to rupture.  I was rushed to the hospital, got surgery, then the nice lady nurse in the office managed to get me onto the state health care plan RETROACTIVELY (which in most states is perfectly legal) to pay for my surgery.  I was out a few hundred bucks for lifesaving treatment.  

Does that sound like a system that&#039;s really all that broken?  What the people who give statistics like &#039;50 million uninsured!&#039; don&#039;t tell you, is that those safety nets exist for just about every one of those 50 million that are just like I was back then.  No one is being sacrificed on the alter of &#039;big medicine&#039;.  Do people fall through the cracks?  You&#039;re damn right they do.  Would people still fall through the cracks even if we got rid of the insurance companies and the government poured more money into it than the military?  Well, if Canada, France, and the UK are any indication, MORE people will start falling through the cracks.

Health care in America is a lot like Democracy - it&#039;s not perfect, but it&#039;s still the best system anyone has ever come up with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edith &#8211; Yeah, we have HMOs already, the question is; do you want the whole country to be like that?  Because that&#8217;s what is going to happen if we keep punishing the &#8216;evil insurance companies&#8217; and decide to join the already failed socialized health care experiment.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Just for my information, who do you want to leave out of the medical system? Who is expendable in your mind? Just want to know&#8221;</p>
<p>Hyperbole, and if you &#8216;work with doctors&#8217; (sorry I misunderstood you earlier) you would know that.  No one needing treatment is ever denied.  Between high school and joining the Marines I didn&#8217;t have insurance for more than a year and a half.  After a whole lifetime of no health problems besides tonsil removal and half a dozen broken bones, my appendix picked that exact time frame to rupture.  I was rushed to the hospital, got surgery, then the nice lady nurse in the office managed to get me onto the state health care plan RETROACTIVELY (which in most states is perfectly legal) to pay for my surgery.  I was out a few hundred bucks for lifesaving treatment.  </p>
<p>Does that sound like a system that&#8217;s really all that broken?  What the people who give statistics like &#8216;50 million uninsured!&#8217; don&#8217;t tell you, is that those safety nets exist for just about every one of those 50 million that are just like I was back then.  No one is being sacrificed on the alter of &#8216;big medicine&#8217;.  Do people fall through the cracks?  You&#8217;re damn right they do.  Would people still fall through the cracks even if we got rid of the insurance companies and the government poured more money into it than the military?  Well, if Canada, France, and the UK are any indication, MORE people will start falling through the cracks.</p>
<p>Health care in America is a lot like Democracy &#8211; it&#8217;s not perfect, but it&#8217;s still the best system anyone has ever come up with.</p>
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		<title>By: Edith Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edith Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fortunate Son, I agree and I pray so.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fortunate Son, I agree and I pray so.  Thank you.</p>
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