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	<title>Comments on: PETA says only chilly Africans are allowed to wear fur</title>
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		<title>By: Bek</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/10/02/peta-chilly-africans/comment-page-1/#comment-20655</link>
		<dc:creator>Bek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay...I just received my grandmother&#039;s absolutely gorgeous, teal-coloured, 100% wool coat...and it has an attached rabbit fur collar. It&#039;s 25 yrs old and it is in perfect condition. I was only able to meet my grandmother once in my entire life, as I was adopted and only found my birth family last year. Two weeks after I met her, she died. The rest of the family feels that, altho she was in very poor health and they didn&#039;t expect her to live thru the summer, that when she heard that I&#039;d found my parents, she held on long enough to be able to meet myself and my children. I absolutely cherish that coat and I WILL be wearing it. Let the first person walk up to me and say anything and they might become a coat themselves!!!

BTW...I AM a hippie, but I&#039;m not an extremist. I was raised on a farm and I eat meat. As such, I support small farmers, but do see the evils of the more commercial farms. I have seen firsthand just about every type of farm animal you could imagine being slaughtered, so I know what&#039;s involved. As such, I know that every part of those animals that was able to be harvested, was. I don&#039;t believe in only using an animal for non-sustenance reasons, nor do I approve of any type of sport hunting. I love my animals and I love the Earth, but I&#039;m not naive enough to think that we can change our biology to something we&#039;re not supposed to be. 

Human beings were made to eat meat...sorry, but if we weren&#039;t our bodies would not process it. Our bodies were NOT however made to process grains and we weren&#039;t really made to process milk past infancy. Mother&#039;s milk...not cows! 

But I digress...

Basically, I&#039;ll be wearing my grandmother&#039;s coat with pride...probably while eating a nice, roast lamb...mmmm, tasty baby sheep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay&#8230;I just received my grandmother&#8217;s absolutely gorgeous, teal-coloured, 100% wool coat&#8230;and it has an attached rabbit fur collar. It&#8217;s 25 yrs old and it is in perfect condition. I was only able to meet my grandmother once in my entire life, as I was adopted and only found my birth family last year. Two weeks after I met her, she died. The rest of the family feels that, altho she was in very poor health and they didn&#8217;t expect her to live thru the summer, that when she heard that I&#8217;d found my parents, she held on long enough to be able to meet myself and my children. I absolutely cherish that coat and I WILL be wearing it. Let the first person walk up to me and say anything and they might become a coat themselves!!!</p>
<p>BTW&#8230;I AM a hippie, but I&#8217;m not an extremist. I was raised on a farm and I eat meat. As such, I support small farmers, but do see the evils of the more commercial farms. I have seen firsthand just about every type of farm animal you could imagine being slaughtered, so I know what&#8217;s involved. As such, I know that every part of those animals that was able to be harvested, was. I don&#8217;t believe in only using an animal for non-sustenance reasons, nor do I approve of any type of sport hunting. I love my animals and I love the Earth, but I&#8217;m not naive enough to think that we can change our biology to something we&#8217;re not supposed to be. </p>
<p>Human beings were made to eat meat&#8230;sorry, but if we weren&#8217;t our bodies would not process it. Our bodies were NOT however made to process grains and we weren&#8217;t really made to process milk past infancy. Mother&#8217;s milk&#8230;not cows! </p>
<p>But I digress&#8230;</p>
<p>Basically, I&#8217;ll be wearing my grandmother&#8217;s coat with pride&#8230;probably while eating a nice, roast lamb&#8230;mmmm, tasty baby sheep.</p>
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		<title>By: CatchEm'KillEm'</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/10/02/peta-chilly-africans/comment-page-1/#comment-14083</link>
		<dc:creator>CatchEm'KillEm'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love eating animals! I also love skinning them and selling them for high prices. Thats basically how I make a living and how I keep the cat population in my neighborhood at bay. Running animals over in my truck at high speeds is also a hobby of mine. 



People
Eat
Tasty
Animals</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love eating animals! I also love skinning them and selling them for high prices. Thats basically how I make a living and how I keep the cat population in my neighborhood at bay. Running animals over in my truck at high speeds is also a hobby of mine. </p>
<p>People<br />
Eat<br />
Tasty<br />
Animals</p>
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		<title>By: Andre Guirard</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/10/02/peta-chilly-africans/comment-page-1/#comment-12876</link>
		<dc:creator>Andre Guirard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This actually sounds like a good business opportunity for someone.  If I were a cold, impoverished goatherd, I think I&#039;d much rather have a decent, warm, inexpensive coat, plus $100, than a $2000 fur that&#039;s (probably) neither as warm nor as water-resistant, nor as durable.

Someone could be buying those things off them and shipping them back to the U.S. or wherever to sell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This actually sounds like a good business opportunity for someone.  If I were a cold, impoverished goatherd, I think I&#8217;d much rather have a decent, warm, inexpensive coat, plus $100, than a $2000 fur that&#8217;s (probably) neither as warm nor as water-resistant, nor as durable.</p>
<p>Someone could be buying those things off them and shipping them back to the U.S. or wherever to sell.</p>
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		<title>By: Proud Vegetarian</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/10/02/peta-chilly-africans/comment-page-1/#comment-12773</link>
		<dc:creator>Proud Vegetarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 19:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those who want to talk about their grandma&#039;s fur coat or whatever. First of all, when have you ever seen red paint being thrown on someone in fur or leather? I mean SEEN IT with your eyes, not read about it, not heard about it. You&#039;re talking about extremist action, that&#039;s like saying all Muslims are terrorists because you&#039;re read about a few that are. 

But, the difference between YOU wearing your grandma&#039;s fur coat on the street, and giving it to these poor people in Africa is this: When YOU&#039;RE wearing the coat, you&#039;re perpetuating an industry. Ever seen an item you liked on someone &amp; then bought one that was similar? I know I have. So you wear grandma&#039;s coat, she sees it &amp; goes &amp; buys one similar. Only its new. So more animals have died, not less.

Instead, you give it to these herders. Okay, someone says &quot;But they&#039;re animal exploiters&quot;... Again, sorry we&#039;re not as extreme as you&#039;d like us to be, but we&#039;re not concerned with taking away the livelihood of people in Africa that are practically starving as it is. First let&#039;s handle the bloated over-fed Americans who are perpetuating the corporate meat industry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those who want to talk about their grandma&#8217;s fur coat or whatever. First of all, when have you ever seen red paint being thrown on someone in fur or leather? I mean SEEN IT with your eyes, not read about it, not heard about it. You&#8217;re talking about extremist action, that&#8217;s like saying all Muslims are terrorists because you&#8217;re read about a few that are. </p>
<p>But, the difference between YOU wearing your grandma&#8217;s fur coat on the street, and giving it to these poor people in Africa is this: When YOU&#8217;RE wearing the coat, you&#8217;re perpetuating an industry. Ever seen an item you liked on someone &amp; then bought one that was similar? I know I have. So you wear grandma&#8217;s coat, she sees it &amp; goes &amp; buys one similar. Only its new. So more animals have died, not less.</p>
<p>Instead, you give it to these herders. Okay, someone says &#8220;But they&#8217;re animal exploiters&#8221;&#8230; Again, sorry we&#8217;re not as extreme as you&#8217;d like us to be, but we&#8217;re not concerned with taking away the livelihood of people in Africa that are practically starving as it is. First let&#8217;s handle the bloated over-fed Americans who are perpetuating the corporate meat industry!</p>
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		<title>By: Finnish irishman</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/10/02/peta-chilly-africans/comment-page-1/#comment-12571</link>
		<dc:creator>Finnish irishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;some working stiff in Finland or Russia wants to save up for a year and buy a fur coat (even a second-hand one) to give his wife, PETA has the recipient of that little gift practically marked for death. Or at least a little spray paint and public humiliation.&quot;

Why would anyone buy a fur in Finland? Its not that fucking cold in there now a days, and Finnish people dont like furs. And save for a year to buy a bloody fur? Are you out of your mind. Finland is one of the richest IT-technology countries in the world - so we dont have polar bears walking up on the streets. 

So get your facts together and next time blame those russians for being into fur and etc. 

Finnish people -&gt; IT-people, Nokia, Wipro, ENZO, UPM-KYMMENE (enzo and upm are the worlds largets forest industry companies in the whole wide world.).

Russians -&gt; Vodka?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;some working stiff in Finland or Russia wants to save up for a year and buy a fur coat (even a second-hand one) to give his wife, PETA has the recipient of that little gift practically marked for death. Or at least a little spray paint and public humiliation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why would anyone buy a fur in Finland? Its not that fucking cold in there now a days, and Finnish people dont like furs. And save for a year to buy a bloody fur? Are you out of your mind. Finland is one of the richest IT-technology countries in the world &#8211; so we dont have polar bears walking up on the streets. </p>
<p>So get your facts together and next time blame those russians for being into fur and etc. </p>
<p>Finnish people -&gt; IT-people, Nokia, Wipro, ENZO, UPM-KYMMENE (enzo and upm are the worlds largets forest industry companies in the whole wide world.).</p>
<p>Russians -&gt; Vodka?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick of Atlantis</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/10/02/peta-chilly-africans/comment-page-1/#comment-12089</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick of Atlantis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fur makes them look glamorous.</description>
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		<title>By: The Oversneer</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/10/02/peta-chilly-africans/comment-page-1/#comment-11457</link>
		<dc:creator>The Oversneer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
No helper animals? Next thing you know, our friends at PETA will mount a campaign saying any kind of animal domestication is unethical, and start “liberating” pets and livestock.
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I was under the impression they&#039;ve been doing that for years.
Someone with better knowledge out there -- help us out.</description>
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No helper animals? Next thing you know, our friends at PETA will mount a campaign saying any kind of animal domestication is unethical, and start “liberating” pets and livestock.
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<p>I was under the impression they&#8217;ve been doing that for years.<br />
Someone with better knowledge out there &#8212; help us out.</p>
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		<title>By: MC Mom</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/10/02/peta-chilly-africans/comment-page-1/#comment-11454</link>
		<dc:creator>MC Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No helper animals? Next thing you know, our friends at PETA will mount a campaign saying any kind of animal domestication is unethical, and start &quot;liberating&quot; pets and livestock. 

Those African shepherds might not have a livelihood, but hey, they&#039;ll have their donated fur coats...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No helper animals? Next thing you know, our friends at PETA will mount a campaign saying any kind of animal domestication is unethical, and start &#8220;liberating&#8221; pets and livestock. </p>
<p>Those African shepherds might not have a livelihood, but hey, they&#8217;ll have their donated fur coats&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SweetCandy</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2008/10/02/peta-chilly-africans/comment-page-1/#comment-11356</link>
		<dc:creator>SweetCandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PETA makes it so easy for people to hate them. I personally LOVE to hate PETA. They are a living joke. Their &quot;fearless&quot; leader says it&#039;s okay for her to use an animal byproduct to live but no one else should. I wonder how many people on their staff use any sort of hormone therapy (including birth control). 

They aren&#039;t doing the animals any favors. These animals will not thank them in the end. They will eat them. The ones that don&#039;t eat them will likely stomp them to death. Animals respect the food chain and so should people.

That is not to say that animals shouldn&#039;t be treated with respect (which of course they often aren&#039;t), but people should not be bullied into changing their way of life. If they really wanted to help animals they would be trying to change animal cruetly laws in the cities and towns, not spending money on ads with people who can not stick to their convictions or have no idea what they are talking about. Not only that but they put the lives of animals before the lives of people. A bear isn&#039;t going to put your life before his when he is hungry. He will eat you and feel no guilt, remorse or anything but full and maybe a little sleepy.

Oh and the whole helper pet thing makes me sick. I read an article on PETA that said that people don&#039;t need helper animals. The example the writer gave was one of his own. He had been hurt in an accident and said he was out for 3 months. He said he had friends and family help him get by. His thinking (totally backwards)was that if he did three months without mobility, and his family and friends helped, he could see no reason for helper pets. That&#039;s the kind of thinking I don&#039;t understand. How can someone compair three months to a life time of disability? Having helper pets gives those people dignity and friendship, instead of making them a burden on their family and friends.

Sorry for the rant. I just hate PETA so much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PETA makes it so easy for people to hate them. I personally LOVE to hate PETA. They are a living joke. Their &#8220;fearless&#8221; leader says it&#8217;s okay for her to use an animal byproduct to live but no one else should. I wonder how many people on their staff use any sort of hormone therapy (including birth control). </p>
<p>They aren&#8217;t doing the animals any favors. These animals will not thank them in the end. They will eat them. The ones that don&#8217;t eat them will likely stomp them to death. Animals respect the food chain and so should people.</p>
<p>That is not to say that animals shouldn&#8217;t be treated with respect (which of course they often aren&#8217;t), but people should not be bullied into changing their way of life. If they really wanted to help animals they would be trying to change animal cruetly laws in the cities and towns, not spending money on ads with people who can not stick to their convictions or have no idea what they are talking about. Not only that but they put the lives of animals before the lives of people. A bear isn&#8217;t going to put your life before his when he is hungry. He will eat you and feel no guilt, remorse or anything but full and maybe a little sleepy.</p>
<p>Oh and the whole helper pet thing makes me sick. I read an article on PETA that said that people don&#8217;t need helper animals. The example the writer gave was one of his own. He had been hurt in an accident and said he was out for 3 months. He said he had friends and family help him get by. His thinking (totally backwards)was that if he did three months without mobility, and his family and friends helped, he could see no reason for helper pets. That&#8217;s the kind of thinking I don&#8217;t understand. How can someone compair three months to a life time of disability? Having helper pets gives those people dignity and friendship, instead of making them a burden on their family and friends.</p>
<p>Sorry for the rant. I just hate PETA so much!</p>
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		<title>By: GlossLip &#187; All Around The Blogosphere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GlossLip &#187; All Around The Blogosphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 12:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] PETA says NO to fur!  Well, unless you live in Africa, then it&#8217;s okay - Deceiver [...]</description>
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