You know how Obama told that plumber dude he wanted to “spread the wealth around”? And then everybody went after the plumber dude for some reason, but then they were like, “Hey, wait a minute, back up. Senator Obama, could you explain that whole ‘spread the wealth around’ thing, please?” And then Obama explained it, but he said only rich people are going to get taxed, so don’t worry about it? But now the definition of “rich” keeps getting less and less, um, rich?
Well, if you like Obama but you don’t like higher taxes, Deceiver fave Hayden Panettiere has a simple solution: Deal with it!
“I don’t know if anyone would complain about under-taxing to be completely honest,” Panettiere told CNSNews.com. “Personally, I’d rather have higher taxes and help other people who need those tax breaks more.”
Ain’t she a saint, folks? She’s like Mother Teresa, but without all the gross wrinkles and stuff. And smarter:
Panettiere, 19, thinks many young people have gotten involved with this year’s presidential election because of the celebrities who chose to publicly endorse a presidential candidate.
“One of the major reasons why, especially young people, have come out and done so much to play a part in this election — and who are really getting out there and voting this time around — is because of the celebrity endorsements, because of how popular this election has become, and how much in the news, and how much it’s taken over, you know, our society,” said Panettiere, who plays “Claire Bennett” on the hit NBC Show, “Heroes.”
Yeah, you remember which other election some genius-level celebrity said that very same thing about? Every single one. And they were wrong every single time.
But let’s say she’s right. Let’s say you vote how she wants you to vote. What if it means paying more taxes? Well, duh. Just have your accounting team take care of it. That’s what you hired them for, right? And while they’re dealing with that boring stuff: shopping! Problem solved, Hayden-style.
Martha Stewart said something equally brilliant about Obama’s tax plan, but she’s old and irrelevant and can’t heal from gunshot wounds and radiation burns like Hayden can, so I don’t care. Save any dolphins lately, Martha? Mm-hmm, didn’t think so.
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We had early voting in Illinois. I was going to vote. But I figured I better wait to find out what Hayden Panettiere thought. So I could do the opposite because I’m not retarded.
Dammit! I already voted! If I had only known what Hayden thought earlier. Well, I guess I should punish myself Hollywood starlet style…no eating for 12 to 96 hours! Oh hell, lets make it a year and do it up right!
BTW, excellent snark Simon. A man after my own heart.
I like Hayden a lot more when she keeps her mouth shut, and don’t think celebrities in general need to get political, especially when they cannot present opinions (popular or not)intelligently, and let’s face it, they rarely do. But, at least she’s not Heidi Montag.
Hey, I’m trying to be positive.
You know, Hollywood people, there’s this thing called “charity.” If you have too much money sitting around you can actually *give it away* to help poor people without getting the government involved.
But no, you need wise leaders like Obamamama to guide your spending, lest you give it to Space Nazis or something by mistake.
Winewife,
Don’t forget…after not eating you need to go shopping, get a mani/pedi and the complain about how tough life in the public eye can be on a gentle loving soul. But don’t worry, this life gets better. As you get into “old” age (28 and up) you realize how important everything you say really is, and it doesn’t matter if you never went to college, or even graduated from high school. You are smart…smrt.
Why do these overpaid morons think their political opinions are so special? And BTW Hayden, if you think you are overtaxed, there is nothing stopping you from paying more taxes than you owe. Just send the IRS the amount you believe you should be paying. You don’t have to wait for Obama to raise taxes. And if you really want to help people in need, give to a charity that helps the poor, rather than pawning off that duty to the government.
You know, I could actually live with a tax increase if the idiots running the budget would use it to PAY BACK THE FREAKIN’ NATIONAL DEBT instead of continuing to run a deficit.
I really hope Obama puts Hayden in his cabinet. You know, as part of his hopey changey bipartisanie reachin’ across the aisle to peons kind of stuff he likes to do so much.
She’d make a great secretary of something or other. Yeah, that’s it! Secretary of Something Or Other.
She could wear a great pencil skirt, get that whole sexy secretary thing going on with fake Tina Fey glasses and black stilettos. I’m sure she’s even perfected the whole “I’m thinking deep thoughts now” acting technique.
It’d be like sooooo cool.
I think I’m supposed to vote for dolphins now. Did I miss something? Hayden, tell me if I’m doing this right!
So people making more than $200,000, instead of $250,000 will be taxed. You realize that’s the same as someone complaining they can’t get a platinum plated car, so they might as well have a gold-plated car?
TWO HUNDREAD FREAKING THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR?! That’s an enormous amount, and guess what, 90% of your country’s citizens are not making ANYTHING CLOSE to that! It may have dropped by $50,000 but he’s still taxing the incredibly wealthy.
Payden, thank you for being so smart and wise. I’ve found knowledge and wisdom from actors, actresses and musicians like yourself. P Diddy taught me that it’s cool to be so self centered. Pam Anderson taught me to not eat meat when its for my own good but its ok to eat meat when I’m not surrounded by papparazzi. The chick from Mork and Mindi taught me that aluminum foil hats are cool. And now, you have explained why you are so influencial in our political process. But Payden, help me out now – why is it when I went to vote, I could not find Sarah Pahlin as the county commissioner for Precinct 3 in Tom Greene County, Texas? Can you spare me a life-line Payden because I really want to vote the right way, because your so smart and pretty.
1) It’s $150,000 and dropping.
2) You’re taking their word that they’re not going to end up taxing everybody. Hey, why would they lie?
Is it $150,000 on an individual? Or couple? It would be very, very easy to have a household income of $150,000 for a couple. And it isn’t a lot of money. After taxes right now $75,000 a year is less than $800 a week. I have family members that earn $65,000 a year, and their take home is roughly $650.00 a week.
200k is not at all unusual for small business owners – the problem is that wanna-be socialists don’t understand that while these people have big incomes, they also have huge expenses.
To put it another way, darek, YOUR BOSS probably makes that much a year. If Obama decides to take more of his money away, you can bet your ass he’ll be doing all he can to cut expenses – including your salary.
Jre is right. I actually own a business. And while we won’t quite earn $200,000 this year, we may very well next year. My salary is already essentially zero. I pay my mortgage, rent for our business, all business expenses, etc. out of that money. Profit? Not yet.
If my taxes, or expenses go up guess who goes? Not me. I am the business. The employees start to go. Illinois already has one of the highest minimum wages in the country. When that hit $7.50 an hour I didn’t get a pay cut. I got rid of employees. Why pay someone almost $1200 a month for something I’ll do for free? It makes my hours longer but that’s part of the gig. No one said owning a business was easy. But it also isn’t cheap.
If you don’t believe me then put your money where your mouth is and start a business.
Try being “wealthy” in California on $200K a year. You can find a house that’s not in the ‘hood with running water but definitely not on Hayden Panettiere’s block.
What the hell does she care anyway? She’s 19 and makes 5 times more per episode of “Heroes” than I do in an entire year, not counting endorsements and convention appearances. Not counting all of the free designer goods they must be heaping upon her either. Her accountants are making darn sure she doesn’t pay a cent more in taxes than she has to. That stuff is for the little people.
One of the biggest scams Hollywood actors pull is forming a production company. The production company’s bank account is in someplace like the Cayman Islands or Switzerland. When an actor signs on to make a movie for say $10 million, his agent and lawyer arranges for the bulk of that money to be paid directly to the “production company” where it sits in a nice sheltered account, with a token amount, like $1 million, paid directly to the actor. The actor pays taxes on only $1 million of the $10 million he’s actually been paid.
No wonder so many support The One.
Here’s a solution for Hayden:
After your accountant does your taxes next year, have them refigured using the 2000 tax table — the last Clinton year. Then, donate the overage to the U.S. Government; yes, they DO take donations, just mark the check “donation”.
This works the same for all you other Libtards out there!
Pasta~ It’s $150,000 for an individual (although I’ve also seen $180 & $110). $250,000 for marrieds filing jointly or a small business filing as a single entity. When it’s a business, it’s $250,000 after you pay employees but before you cover things like bonuses, insurance, capital reinvestment, paying owner’s wages. The O website is fairly unclear and I’m sure the plan will change in committee.
I’m also a text book case of why Obama’s definition of “rich” is a crock of bull.
I’m an artist married to an engineer. Before I dissolved my business 2 yrs. ago to stay home with my children, my workshop (3 part time high school aged studio assistants) routinely came in around $150,000-200,000 depending upon the success of that year’s Christmas season. I worked 12-14 hours a day including weekends. I paid myself about $30,000 one year because I hadn’t paid myself at all the 6 previous years; I haven’t paid myself since. I used the rest of my earnings to build an aluminum barn for a shop, pay overhead, purchase machinery, purchase raw materials (my greatest expenditure), and pay $9/hr to my skilled assistants who earned high school art credits while working for me. If I had added one more employee or moved one to full time and then sold to maybe 3 more retailers, I’d have been at the 250 mark.
My business was exactly who Obama is currently targeting.
But it gets worse, because the Mighty O could be targeting my family:
When I was a corporate full time, our combined family income was in the $150,000 zone. That was 12yrs ago. Inflation and assumed yearly pay raises (my husband completed his doctorate) would classify my husband and I as present day Obama’s $250 kind of rich if I’d stayed on the business suit track.
We have 3 kids and live in a house valued below the pre-crash median value for my area. We drive one company car and own a 2001 vehicle which I plan to drive until it dies. We have small retirement accounts, a savings cushion, some company stock, and 3 college funds. We take local vacations and do not own anything extravagant like a boat or a cottage. We have some credit card debt took out a home improvement loan only because a giant tree crashed through our kitchen roof.
We’re not rich. We don’t fondle our cache of gold by candlelight.
And I’m not a whiner.
But supposedly if I went back to work, we’d be wealthy. Filthy-tax-me-more-hang-my-head-in-shame kind of rich. Thanks Barack.
Where’s the incentive?
Well crap. It just keeps getting lower and lower.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G88ebXY2uaI
Let’s go for $98,000 next. ‘Cuz we’re selfish bastards.
^^It’ll be lower than that if/when the Bush 2003 tax cuts expire. Nobody seems to mention that one.
But Strawberry, didn’t the Bush tax cuts only go to the rich?
Yep, you, me and ExxonMobil. Richity Richity Rich.
I work for a nonprofit and I know that charities do it better. I see my clients once a week, more if they are in crisis. There is another program in our community that does what we do but bills Medicaid, and due to Medicaid restrictions they can only have contact with the clients once a month. So the whole idea of better life through bigger government is a sham. If hayden is so concerned she should donate money and time to the united way and save people instead of whales.
“One of the major reasons why, especially young people, have come out and done so much to play a part in this election — and who are really getting out there and voting this time around — is because of the celebrity endorsements,
Unbelievable! Its all about me. And for all the celebrities who feel they don’t pay enough in taxes I have a challenge. Take no deductions on your income tax this year. Pay your full tax, without deductions. Show us little people the way.
I would be interested to find out how much Hayden made last year pre-deductions versus what she reported after her deductions and what she paid in taxes.
I was already on the fence about voting on Tuesday, and then I saw this and thought, “Well, hell, the cheerleader wants me to vote for Obama, I’d better do it!”
Then I saw this in the latest Fortune and started wondering more:
http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/24/magazines/fortune/tully_henrys.fortune/index.htm
Does the Obama tax increase over $250K include any revenues from small businesses, or just the income small business owners take home from that business? And if the former, who the heck thought *that* was a good idea?!?
I get so tired of people going “just donate to charity,” or, “Don’t ask the government to help you, that’s charity’s job.”
Mmkay. Have you people ever DEALT with charity? Let me tell you something about freaking charity: it’s always begging for money. Al. Ways. In fact they waste perfectly good money that they could be using to help people, BEGGING FOR MORE MONEY.
If conservatives and libertarians really believe charity is the answer, and if you really are more well-off than liberals, to the degree you resent taxation because you think it disproportionately affects you–why aren’t YOU giving more to charity?
I don’t mean charities that preserve rich people’s party clothes to stick into a museum, either–I mean charities that actually help poor people.
By the way, the whole premise that “the rich” get taxed more when income taxes are raised? That, my friends, is a MYTH. Income taxes ONLY affect income. Your degree of wealth is only slightly affected by your income level. It is more strongly determined by your net worth. Net worth by definition is money that is NOT moving around, hence money NOT subject to income tax.
By the way? Rich people, even rich liberals, DO contribute to charity. The problem is that charity doesn’t take care of all the need out there. It is as often as not run by petty individuals with petty beliefs about who is and is not worthy of help. At least the government is forbidden from discriminating against people. You can’t say the same of a church.
So… I think I know where I would rather my tax dollars went.
Really yeah OK? Rich people, and by that I’m guessing you mean conservatives don’t donate enough to charity huh? I’m guessing that’s what your saying.
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2005/11/generosity_inde.html
Liberals are really generous with other peoples money I guess.
So the government should take over. They never want money, and they never waste it.
Besides, why should I be able to choose where my own money goes?
Actors make lots of money for pretending to be somebody else, not exactly the grounding in reality I look for in my political advisors.
yeah OK – try living on the other end of stick. Getting government assistance is a job itself with all the paperwork and meetings. When you got to a church for food they don’t ask your income levels they just fill up some bags with whatever they have.
I see a whole lot more waste with the government welfare/charity system then I have with any private charity I have dealt with.
Jre-
They DO give it to Space Nazi’s…
I think they are call Scientolo…somethings…
Mattiesmom is correct. The federal government is the worst run charity in the U.S. If you add Social Security to the mix, the federal government is the worst life insurance and retirement annuity company in the U.S.
If you assume the money that the federal government takes out of your paycheck at gunpoint — which it essentially is as they have the guns and the police power to incarcerate you if you object — is a voluntary donation, I’d bet a dollar that half, if not a majority, of the money is eaten up in administrative costs before it reaches the beneficiary. Even a bad legitimate private charity has lower administrative costs than the federal government.
Who’s to say that a particular charity is worth supporting? If it is up to the federal government to decide, the money will go to whoever had the better lobbyists and/or is in line with the philosophical ideas of the Congressional leadership. As opposed to individuals making voluntary donations to those charities that the individuals decide for themselves are worthy of supporting and that produce results.