Haven’t we heard this before? Yep.
Here’s this week’s version of “the cure is worse than the disease”:
Staging a global forum on climate change is a dilemma, as it adds to the very problem it is trying to solve.Around 13,000 tonnes of carbon dioxide (CO2) will be added to the Earth’s greenhouse effect from the December 1-12 meeting of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, the UNFCCC said.
That estimate is based on a turnout of 8,000 people, but as of Sunday 10,657 people had registered for the talks.
Poland, which is hosting the meeting, “plans to offset the total emissions resulting from the conference once a final calculation has been made,” the UNFCCC said.
Under offsets, anyone emitting carbon can invest in a scheme that mitigates the pollution by the same amount.
Typical projects involve reforestation or transferring cleaner technology to developing countries in order to ease their own emissions of greenhouse gases.
The UNFCCC, based in Bonn, is sending 200 people to the Poznan talks, who are travelling by the most “carbon-friendly means possible,” either by train or bus, it said.
First off, buses and trains are not the most “carbon-friendly means possible.” Or bicycling. But I guess a Tour De Global Warming is a littletoo much to expect from the UN. And besides — it’s tough to carry dinner jackets and brie on a bike.
Personally, I’m going to start offsetting all my, ahem, “methane emissions” by reforesting my backyard with buried Greenpeace protesters. I hear their jello-streaked mohawks make for lovely foliage in autumn.
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That’s crap Big O. You should be able to carry dinner jackets, and brie on a bike. I once carried an entire seven course meal on a unicycle. With wine. Gordan Ramsey showed me how. The man is a god.
You know, the older I get, the more and more bitter I am about how little of the ‘future technology’ I was promised by movies and TV has actually come to pass.
I don’t have a jet-pack or flying car. I can’t get an entire meal by eating a pill (though for some reason my wife still forces multivitamins down my throat). I can’t have an entire vacation injected into my brain in a matter of minutes, or play my computer games in full virtual reality. Can’t take a weekend retreat to Tycho City, or travel a post-apocalyptic wasteland battling violent mutants for the world’s last remaining fuel supplies. In short – I feel ripped off.
That being said, we haven’t even taken advantage of the areas where technology HAS kept up with movie expectations. One of the major staples of sci-fi movies in the last 40 years has been advanced telecommunications systems. I honestly figured by now that every fortune 500 board room would look like the one from Demolition Man or Robocop, with TV screens mounted on top of chairs and people from around the world tuning in. Every yahoo and amateur porn star in the world can get their hands on a webcam for 20 bucks, and you’re telling me that we can’t make this happen?
Hell, I sent my wife recorded video messages from Iraq on my CELL PHONE – and these morons are still burning thousands of gallons of dead dinosaurs so they can all sit in the same room together? This is one of the few areas that I agree with the environmentalists. In this era of technological sophistication, there’s just no need for this kind of waste.
Oh – and I want my jet pack.
Typical “And then, we all GONNA DIE!!!” crowd.
*Sigh*
That lady’s face paint looks like it’s more toxic to the enviroment than greenhouse gasses.
Nice one, Scott F. The conference attendees could do a video conference and save millions of gallons of jet fuel. And everyone could put up eager beaver photos of themselves in front of the webcam to pretend that they were awake/dressed during the speeches! It’s a win-win for everyone.
Oh, and I like totally want my flying car already, people.
As I looked at the lovely ladies featured in the photo accompaning this posting it occurred to me that in the time it took for them to put together their very impressive costumes they could have done any (possibly all) of the following:
Bake cookies for patients at their local cancer treatment center
Knit/crochet a few hats for preemies at their local birthing center
Read dozens of books to children at their local library
Give blood at their local Red Cross
Make several care packages for US soldiers stationed overseas
The list could be nearly endless and I’m sure you all get my point. All that time spent on ridiculous costumes to protest an unproven “global crisis” could have been spent actually accomplishing something that would directly affect some of the people they claim to care so much about. What a waste of time, money and effort.
Dang… they even look like complete morons.
I just have to say anyone calling global warming an “unproven global crisis” is an idiot. Every scientist in the world(except for the ones whose pockets are being lined by the oil companies) knows that global warming is a very real and scary truth. That being said I do agree with the idea of a video conference in lieu of a emissions spewing one, it’s very important that the people spearheading the change in perception that we all need does so by actually showing how to be part of the solution. Seriously though, how dumb and blind do you have to be to not see that our earth is in crisis?
True, there’s more and more proof that it’s in no way a crisis, global or otherwise. Bundle up!
Here in SE England, it’s a lot colder than it was last year!
Scott F. I cannot agree with you more! Why couldn’t VP Al Gore do a large teleconference with all of those colleges during his Inconvenient Truth tour instead of jet setting across the country numerous times! He could still charge, like all of those porn stars…Ahhh, I smell the hypocrisy in the sir.
“Every scientist in the world (except for the ones whose pockets are being lined by the oil companies) knows that global warming is a very real and scary truth.”
That’s a rather broad statement. Have you personally discussed this with every world scientist?
Evidence please.
Anon, I’ll believe it’s a crisis when the people telling me it’s a crisis start acting like it’s a crisis.
(And I totally want my flying car, too, but I want mine to make a warbling sound like in The Jetsons.
I wonder how many of these Global warming people own real estate on the coast if they believe the sea levels are going to rise.
Also considering that CO2 makes up .04% (that is less than 1 percent) of all gases, and humans only create 1/5th of the co2 that is around the world (4/5ths are made by the planet naturally), I don’t think we need to worry about how much evil co2 we let loose. If you really want to do some good, get a huge cork and close up all of those pesky volcanoes. Or better yet find a way to prevent plants from dying and decaying. If you really think that co2 is a problem, I would start out trying to stop the planet from polluting, before worrying about the measly 1/5th that we are causing. Heck there are underground coal fires that have been burning for a long time that put up more co2 than us.
And before Anonymous flames me. No I don’t work for the oil company. My facts are based on science, not unprovable hypotisis that win me a nobel peace prize. If you want links for proof I can provide them. And not one will come from Wikipedia.
O.K. now I am out of breath, I had better by some carbon offsets for all the co2 my body is putting out.
“Every scientist in the world (except for the ones whose pockets are being lined by the oil companies) knows that global warming is a very real and scary truth.”
No the only ones who believe it are after taxpayers money just like the rest of the United Nutters org.
Here in China we had the coldest winter in 50 years and most snow in 100yrs last Feb. So do you blame them rubbing their hands waiting for these offset monies.
People like you Anon are the idiots.
There’s more evidence of Ice Age II: Electric Boogaloo than global warming. If that’s true, we’re gonna wish we had more carbon footprints as polar bears move into South Beach.
even I wouldn’t hit it…
Damn. Damneddy damn, damn, damn.
I’m now in month number two, using my new Earth-Friendly-CFC-Free asthma inhaler.
For those of you who haven’t heard, some genius tree-licker at the FDA decided that asthma inhalers were a large part of the global warming problem. So by the end of the year, all US inhalers must be CFC free.
The new stuff tastes like toxic sludge. It doesn’t work as fast (when it actually works). I’ve seen the doctor 3 times since October to fiddle with new dosages. My copay went up $5, and there won’t be generic versions of these meds out for another 5 years.
But do they offer asthmatics a chance to purchase a few fricken carbon offsets so that we can breathe?
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
I hope these guys freeze their asses off in Poland.
All you naysayers are like the black nights of society, even with all your limbs gone you still think you’re fine. The evidence for global warming is staggering-disappearing glaciers, melting artic sea ice, tundra permafrost melting, the tree line rising, tropical diseases are spreading, the ocean is warming and coral reefs are dying off, more extreme weather everywhere, altered bird migrations, the increase in CO2 in the atmosphere over the last 50 years. There’s plenty of evidence that humans activities are causing this yet not real evidence of natural causes to the global warming. Bud the chud trying to pass the blame to natural systems is truly laughable. The arrogance of the human race is it’s downfall. Oh, and I live in an area where the evidence of global warming is very real and affects us everyday, one cold winter in China does not dispute years of evidence.
Minnow — I feel your pain about the inhalers. My supply of “old stock” albuterol is dwindling. I wonder if you can still get vintage stuff on the Internet?
Yes, those are phantom limbs running rings around you.
How long have you had Internet service in Candyland?
Word to the doomsayers: stop saying “all scientists” in your arguments. There has not been a case yet in the history of human civilization where ALL scientists agreed on something this new. Because science is not a consensus or a religion, and is based on skepticism. Remember how long it took for the Big Bang theory to take hold?
Saying what you believe is true because for the first time in human history every scientist agrees with you just tells us that
1) you’re basing your belief on what you hear second hand
2) you have no evidence
3) you have no understanding of how science works
and finally 4) we don’t have to listen to your rants because you just blatantly made something up
Hey Trompi the human race is an awful thing isn’t it? Let’s get rid of it. Would that make you feel better?
I say we start with you.
“First off, buses and trains are not the most “carbon-friendly means possible.”
I have to disagree. In Europe, trains are electric (except some lines in France, who are still morons). So please don’t compare Europe’s trains with US “150 gallons per hour” diesel locomotives.
Touché. But you can’t tell me all that electricity comes from your wind farms.
Oops. It doesn’t. Can you spell “coal,” boys and girls?
Zing!
Oversneer….made me laugh, thanks
I give all the credit to my research assistant, Professor Google.
My assistant was Professor Google too! Then she started leaking and it got weird. Oh well.
Hey Trompi,
Did you know that global temps have been going down since 1998, glaciers are getting thicker, and we have had a record low for hurricanes. It is called science. All of these facts were collected by actual scientists. You cannot refute facts with your religion of global warming.
I can’t spell “coal” Oversneer, but I can spell “nuclear” which according to the European Commission is the second largest source of electricity for the EU and accounts for about half of France’s electricity generation.
I’m sure the lovely ladies in the photo are *huge* fans of nuclear power.
Bud the Chud
Please provide some links for these scientific facts you claim. What planet do you live on? Jupiter? Yeah sure, the last ten years have been nothing but low global temps, thickening glaciers and mild hurricane seasons. Seriously, I’d love some links to these facts. It’s not a religion by the way, it’s called commen sense and rational thinking.
It’s a start Trompi…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1085359/Global-warning-We-actually-heading-new-Ice-Age-claim-scientists.html
There are so many links about global warming being a fraud it would be impossible to link them all here. But if you want AGW debunking here’s a good place to start.
junkscience.com
Gosh, I seem to be late for my own party! I should have checked back on my rant earlier. Being a bit of a blog virgin I didn’t think anyone paid too much attention to what I had to say. First, thanks Trompi for giving me my first ‘idiot’ status. For the bogus cause of climate change I’ll be glad to accept any unattractive moniker you care to attach to me. And thanks “Simon” for protecting my honor and the scientific method in general. I don’t know if you drink but if you ever wander up to Eastern Washington State please look me up and consider the wine on me! And thanks go to Pastafarian for mentioning my favorite reference to all my ill-informed, Oprah watching friends: http://www.junkscience.com. You don’t know how many times I’ve talked my sister down from the ledge by referring to that site. Dear God I love Deceiver!