Bijou Phillips, aka “Who In The What Now?”, has taken a hard line against the prescription of antidepressants. After completing years of study at a top medical school and clinical trials on the long-term effects of Prozac and Zoloft, she has released her groundbreaking findings to international acclaim and consensus.
Nah, just kidding, she’s a Scientologist.
“My grandparents didn’t take any pills, and they were fine,” Phillips said in the February issue of Paper. “Just buck up and get over it. Stop being such a f-cking pansy.”
Interesting, then, that she seems to be of questionable mental stability herself. As filmmaker James Toback, who directed her in race drama Black and White, told Salon:
Bijou Phillips — you never knew what the f-ck she would say or do next. There is no line between her unconscious and her articulation of it and her behavior. She is a genuine psychopath. I say that with affection and admiration, because she’s also incredibly smart and talented, so she knows how to amuse and how to get and hold attention. If she were just a psychopath, you wouldn’t want to use her; you’d just be bored. But she is always kind of amusing and interesting, and if one thing isn’t working she has a good sense of it, and she just starts on something else.
Whether or not he meant it literally, I will take it as such. Do you really want a psychopath to dispense mental-health advice?
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I don’t want anyone giving me medical advice unless they’re an MD, period.
How lovely to be accustomed to a life that is so pampered that you cannot conceive of the depths of human emotion.
Didn’t the Phillips family have substance abuse problems? But that is okay, because it getting high doesn’t alter your mental state. Thank L. Ron we now know better.
I firmly believe that every $cientologist should be locked in a room with a psychotic who hasn’t had his meds in days and nothing but what their ‘religion’ prescribes for someone with those symptoms(vitamins). If they don’t feel like doing it, just remind them that ‘only THEY can make a difference.’
Uh, yeah.
This coming from a family which has been self medicating the hell out of themselves for at least 3 generations.
I didn’t even think about how it was her dad singing “All the leaves are brown and the sky is gray…”
Pretty…depressing.
Well, do Scientologists take a hardline against illegal drugs and alcohol, or just the stuff from those pillars of evil, Big Pharma and the psychiatry profession? Maybe in that…*fascinating*…world you can lick as many tabs as you want but Zoloft is off-limits.
*Sigh* another dumb effing socialite living off Mommy and Daddy’s fame while offering nothing to society.
Ever time a Scientologotard opens there mouths, Xenu kills a kitten. Or a puppy. Choose your adorable poison.
Also, speaking from experience, “getting the f**k over it” is the worst advice to give to people really suffering with any type of depression. It’s like telling someone suicidal that they won’t do it. It’s disaster. I have been taking Zoloft for almost five years and it looks like I got the f**k over it from MEDICAL DOCTORS not pampered celebrities. Of course she can get the f**k over it when she’s been spoiled with riches and crap from the time she was a fetus!
I’m sorry about the rant, this crap makes me so angry. I absolutley hate this cult so much. The crap the pull makes me disgusted.
I’d hit it.
I’d hit it twice if I could skip the first few steps of Scientology where I have to pay lots of money…
““getting the f**k over it” is the worst advice to give to people really suffering with any type of depression”
No kidding! You wouldn’t tell someone with a broken leg to suck it up. Instead, they’d be casted up, given physical therapy, and pain medications so they could at least function while they healed. Mind is the same way. Depression DOES need treated with therapy, but you also need medications to supplement (not replace) the therapy…it helps their brain function normally while they learn to cope with the depression and THEN “get over it”. I mean you wouldn’t expect a broken leg to heal on vicodine alone. Some people choose to go drug-free with therapy, some just can’t, they need the medication to be able to function in daily life.
Then again, in this “fast food” world, people want quick fixes, and some doctors are content to throw pills at patients with depression and not even help them cope with the causes or guide them to recovery. THAT is wrong, and that is sometimes what causes people to “snap” (think school shootings) because they’re given no coping skills or recovery strategies. Antidepressants may make the *chemical* reactions stop, but they don’t eliminate the causes (such as bullying in the case of some school shooters).
*Steps off soapbox*
I found the source to be as amusing as the story. First, this is based on an article from US Magazine – the same rampant Hollywood rag that my pet chinchillas won’t crap on. Secondly, it reports that she and her husband are a “Los Angeles Power Couple.” WTF is a power couple? I can give my my opinion as a registered professional engineer but I would rather rely on the fine journalists at US Magazine.
Jrod would do Dr. Douch some good because her husband looks to be p-whipped. I just hope you have ear plugs – she’s probably a babbling celebutard.
“…some doctors are content to throw pills at patients …”
That’s the kind of doctore I want, I just want to take my oxycotin and slide into a drooling stupor
Amen, Ani! Despite many years of public awareness, people are still afraid to seek treatment because of the stigma attached. “I’m not crazy!” Well, yes you are and crazy is ok. Crazy can be managable with therapy and, sometimes, meds.
However, there are, sometimes, underlying medical reasons for mental health symptoms. I had massive anxiety to the point where leaving the house caused me to have a panic attack. Turned out, I have hypothyroidism. There are a whole host of medical conditions that can cause major mental health breakdowns. A trip to the doctor can be a great place to start so they can rule that out and treat with psych meds if necessary.
As for this twat, ugh. I’ll give her some latitude since her father was a horrendous junkie. I read stories about the horrible, squalid conditions she grew up in because John Phillips was so out of it all the time. She probably uses the Scientology to create a sense of structure in her life that she so sorely lacked growing up. Still, what a twat.
Just to clarify, depression, just like many diseases, is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain (something no one can control.) Sometimes depression starts from a single incident (i.e. death), but many people are born with it since it is hereditary. Telling someone to “just get over it” is like telling a diabetic that they should do the same. “You f***ing moron diabetics! If you would just put your mind to it, you wouldn’t need that insulin!” Sounds like she has a SEVERE chemical imbalance of her own (called “I am so superior to everyone else, they should do as I say” disease.)
Drug or alcohol addiction is not really a “disease”. They are called such since, once the body is addicted, it is difficult to stop, but people are not generally suffering from any medical problem that they are treating. Many people use illegal drugs & alcohol to self-medicate depression (whether they realize they have it or not.)
Her father didn’t have access to the treatments we have today. He might have been able to treat his problems MEDICALLY if antidepressants were available. There must be some explanation how she came to be so stupid. All the drugs her parents used damaged her brain before she was even born, so she has no idea what “normal” is, much less what someone goes through with the disease. NO ONE wants to be depressed but she seems to think depressed people are having so much fun, they don’t want to feel better.
typical scientologist crap.. what an idiot.
Going with what Julie said, there’s also the depression where there has been something tramatic in the patient’s past (PTSD or bipolar) that can trigger types of mania or depression either at the drop of a hat or something just as tramatic happens (this is what I have, Type 2 Bipolar).
Kind of hard to “Get the f**k over it” when you can’t change the past or save a friend/family from dying.
She was in a remake of “It’s Alive”? Why did they remake that? It’s classic cheese!
I wish my parents were crack heads so I could be rich, and famous too. I’m already talentless so why not me? C’mon Hollywood what’s the secret?
Pasta, the secret is big boobs and no morals. She doesn’t have the morals but I couldn’t hazard a guess on the boobs.
What!? I don’t have any morals. The boobs are easy. What are they, $5-$6,000 now? No problem.
Ah L. Ron Hubbard. The monster you created surpassed even your wildest expectations.
It seems to me that it’s true sometime drugs are over prescribed for depression, just like they are for pretty much any condition. However, that’s no reason to eliminate them altogether. And refering to her grandparents is kind of a moot point. Although it’s probably quite true that people in the olden days probably were more likely to get along just fine without drugs, the times as a whole were different. That is to say, people back then were brought up in a style more in line with “deal with it” as opposed to now where quick fixes are the trend from birth and then can’t really be altered later on in life. What’s more, even if some people were raised with the “deal with it” mentality from birth, as long as a goodly number of those around you aren’t of a similar mindset, one is subconsciously going to fall at least somewhat into the surrounding mentality and end up at least slightly less likely to handle some such problems than they otherwise should. Even in a best case scenario though, there’s always going to be those really severe cases…
As an FYI, chiropractic care has been found to generally be good at alleviating clinical depression. Most specifically, upper cervical adjustments like NUCCA, AO, Blair, toggle and so forth. Note though, that’s simply to alleviate it. Hopefully it’ll make more people able to get by without drugs, but the patient should always know how much help they need and if the drugs are still perhaps necessary.
so let me get this straight…the drugs bijou took that WEREN”T prescribed by a doctor are ok in the eyes of scientos, but the mind altering meds an actual doctor prescribes are no nos…
Hmmmm, I agree with the use of chiropractic care and also have to throw in massage therapy. They do help alleviate symptoms of depression. Some therapists are also massage therapists and will do their therapy while giving a massage. I had one massage therapist who was also a CPN (advance practicing nurse) therapist and being able to “talk it out” and get a relaxing massage at the same time was extremely beneficial, and she tied it in with aromatherapy with the massage oils. Too bad she moved out of state, she was a Godsend during a rough time! I chose to go through my depression drug-free only because it was strictly situational and I just needed pointed in the right direction…but what works for me won’t work for everyone else, just like what works for them may not work for me.
I am from a very “deal with it” school of thought, but I would never, in a million years, refuse to take a medication that I truly needed. People who are clinically depressed benefit from medication.
Secondly, if you are not a doctor, you have no business acting like one. It is irresponsible and stupid, especially when you come from a family that has collectively taken more drugs than Colombia can produce in five years.
“Who in the What Now?”–hilarious. Totally made me chuckle out loud. Is that something that Jasper from the Simpsons said? I know he was all, “that’s a paddlin’”
Yeah, I don’t understand why scientologists have to start talking about psychological stuff all the time. I mean, was she approached about clinical depression? I don’t know. But I do think that they are against illegal drugs, too. I know that Narcanon is a scientology organization, and I feel like it’s respected (I remember learning about it in health class in 6th grade).
I have nothing more to add, except check out this red meat comic strip:
http://www.redmeat.com/redmeat/2007-11-13/index.html
“Shut up Bijou and take off your clothes”……something she hears a lot I am sure.
Although it’s probably quite true that people in the olden days probably were more likely to get along just fine without drugs
Not really. Depressed people in the “olden days” drank and slept too much and killed themselves (and other people), just like untreated depressed people do today. The only real difference is that no one talked about it publicly. My mother didn’t learn she had an uncle who had bouts of depression and who shot his wife and himself until after her mother died and the last surviving sibling told her; my grandmother spent 50 years hiding him out of shame. She did know about the grandmother who would take to her bed for days on end…
I’d never heard of this Bijou bitch before today, but if she wasn’t jumping on Oprah’s couch while castigating people for seeking medical treatment, I’m not interested. Heh!
Hmmmm, well she sounds like a complete moron. Shame on John Phillips for raising such a disrespectful, hateful child. My friend killed himself because he couldn’t “just get over” being raped from the time he was four to the time he was six. Maybe if she had lived his life she would have more sympathy for those going through things she doesn’t have the empathy to understand!
HeatherRadish – I totally agree with you – you took the words right out of my mouth. Depressed people were hidden in the old days. I am certain she has truly NO IDEA whether or not her grandparents were OK (not that she cared), just that they seemed OK to her. The Great Depression/WWII era people were taught not to talk about their troubles because others had it just as bad or worse and everyone had to work hard to survive. If you were depressed, you were considered lazy, selfish & self-centered. Unfortunately, these ideas are still held by most people because that is what they are taught by example. This is why there is still shame & stigma attached to mental illness, but to especially depression because it seems so simple to just say “don’t be sad”. It is harder to tell someone not to be psychotic.
Lmao…..advice from a walking, talking trainwreck?
Dr. Peter Kramer, in his brilliant book Against Depression, gives two carefully controlled studies as examples of a growing body of research that indicates what we did not know before, and what many people still refuse to believe: depression is an organic disease that literally damages the brain. (And right now I can’t think of a single mental illness I’ve ever studied that DIDN’T have physical effects you could see under a microscope, in an MRI, or with the aid of any other medical diagnostic equipment.) Brain damage, depending on what’s affected and how, can be irreversible. Any brain disease/mental illness has the potential to be fatal if it’s not treated, and doctors, pathologists, and therapists agree that depression in particular is dangerous in this regard. Patients who are told to “get over” depression for too long will not survive it. Personal experience (and not just me, either, but many people I’ve known) drove me to study depression extensively, and it’s @#%^&$*)s like her who make my job harder and do the reverse of educating the public. (Is that “de-educating?” Can’t think of a good word for that.)
I agree completely with WUD. What kind of shallow, pampered little bitch is this?
And her comments stung, I had a friend with depression who took a lot of pills and threw herself off the motorway.