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Jan
09

President Barack H. Orchid

Sometimes all you need to do is let them talk:

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That was last year. This year?

The capital flew into a bit of a tizzy when, on his first full day in the White House, President Obama was photographed in the Oval Office without his suit jacket. There was, however, a logical explanation: Mr. Obama, who hates the cold, had cranked up the thermostat.

“He’s from Hawaii, O.K.?” said Mr. Obama’s senior adviser, David Axelrod, who occupies the small but strategically located office next door to his boss. “He likes it warm. You could grow orchids in there.”

So what President Hothouse Flower Obama really meant to say during the campaign was that we can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times, unless we’re from Hawaii.

In a similar vein: Everybody should pay their taxes on time, unless they’re going to run the IRS. Lobbyists won’t find jobs in the Obama White House, unless they do. Words mean things, unless they don’t. It’s easy when you just stop thinking. Give it a try!

(Hat tip: Hot Air)

P.S. In pointing out what Obama said 8 months ago, I missed what Obama said yesterday:

After his daughters got a snow day Wednesday, President Barack Obama wants to see a little bit of “flinty, Chicago toughness” applied locally.”When it comes to the weather, folks in Washington don’t seem to be able to handle things,” a joking Obama told reporters Wednesday morning.

“My children’s school was canceled today because of what? Some ice.”

Yeah, just turn up the thermostat and it’ll all melt away.

(Hat tip: Commenter Jenn)

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65 Responses to “President Barack H. Orchid”


  1. 1 Pastafarian Jan 29th, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    I saw this story and I immediately thought of that scene in “In the Heat of the Night”, when Sidney Poitier is talking to the racist cotton farmer about the orchids in his hot house, and he describes them, “Like the negro”.

    My point is how long will it be before the next person that brings this up is a racist?

  2. 2 D---- Jan 29th, 2009 at 1:06 pm

    Oh please, he hasn’t been “from” Hawaii in years, hell he was living in Chicago for how freakin’ long?

    Why the hell isn’t the White House and the Capital building not using solar or geothermal and/or even wind power? If you are gonna preach to me about alternative energy you should be using the damn stuff and then you can jack up that thermostat!

  3. 3 winewife Jan 29th, 2009 at 1:20 pm

    Why is this surprising? Hypocrisy is the backbone of Liberal philosophy. It’s always “do as I say, not as I do”. Every damn one of them thinks they personally are the exception to the “moral” rules they force on everyone else.

  4. 4 Hurricane Jan 29th, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    Can’t we just all finally admit that he is a giant fraud, a liar, and a douche?

    If Obama supporters have a slightest bit of shame they would be embarrassed as hell. Unfortunately, they are like L Ron’s followers. No amount of truth will ever help.

    It’s going to be a loooong 4 years but at least there will be plenty to laugh about while we lose our jobs.

  5. 5 Jrod Jan 29th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    Keep running stories like this and you’ll be lucky to make it 4 years! Careful deceiver! I like you guys!

  6. 6 jenn Jan 29th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    Look at this story
    “Obama pokes fun at D.C. area’s reaction to snow”

    http://www.wtop.com/?nid=25&sid=1585670

    What a jerk

  7. 7 angry army wife Jan 29th, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    Hey, here’s an idea. You’re cold? Put on your dang gone jacket! That is what we do. If I am cold at home I put on a sweatshirt or blanket. Keeps my husband happy with the lower heating bills and keeps me from complaining that I am cold. Didn’t he just make fun of D.C. for cancelling school for the day for ice and telling everyone to suck it up because he is from Chicago? This is only the 2nd week of his administration. It is going to be a very long 4 years.

  8. 8 Minnow Jan 29th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    “Why the hell isn’t the White House and the Capital building not using solar or geothermal and/or even wind power?”

    D.C. is sitting on the mother lode of politicothermal power. Just two senators (or one speaker of the house)and a television camera is all it takes to bathe several buildings in tons of hot windbaggage.

    Can’tcha just imagine the angry peasants with pitchforks and pikes out in front of the White House if a certain someone had kept the oval office at a constant Crawford temperature?

  9. 9 Patrick of Atlantis Jan 29th, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    I think of all the trees that could be saved if he stopped printing money just to throw it away.

  10. 10 Minnow Jan 29th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    I think I just figured out what Obama’s growing in his new hot & humid office:

    http://www.chiaobama.com/

  11. 11 Pastafarian Jan 29th, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    HEY! I’ve been spelling it Barak, without the “C” what a dumb-ass.

    Nice chiaobama by the way. I didn’t know he was Chinese.

  12. 12 Ani Jan 29th, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    As a gal who is accustomed to the midwest winters where getting a foot of snow was typical, and then moved to the NC coast for a couple years, I will admit my family and I died laughing when school was cancelled because there was a dusting of snow! Like the everything stopped and was closed. We were like “What the heck, ya pansies, grow a set and drive!” Yea, be careful for what ya wish for there, because NO ONE there seemed to know how to handle driving on the snow, and there was barely even any that stuck, not even enough to make things slick. On the flipside, I had a friend move from Norfolk VA to Marquette MI and he about died when he realized that the world doesn’t stop when snow falls and he was expected to report to his job despite it being below zero and 12″ of snow on the ground.

    By the way, it’s his office, he has to work in it, let him set the thermostat for what’s comfortable for him.

    If energy was such an issue for the Republicans, they did have 8 years to change the heat system, ya know.

  13. 13 Simon Scowl Jan 29th, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    By the way, it’s his office, he has to work in it, let him set the thermostat for what’s comfortable for him.

    I’d be happy to, except he publicly expressed an opinion about where I should set mine. And he’s the president.

    If energy was such an issue for the Republicans, they did have 8 years to change the heat system, ya know.

    I don’t suppose you have any earthly idea what you’re talking about.

  14. 14 Ani Jan 29th, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    Right-wingers are so bitter and such sore losers. I guess if you bitch and moan enough, then the outcome of the election will change? I’ve never seen such whiny-ass bellyaching in my life *Hands over a bowl of Cheerios for you to cry in*

    Lots of people express opinions on where my thermostat should be set, too. Doesn’t mean I’ll do it. I can tell someone what a good temperature is for theirs and it doesn’t mean they’ll do it.

  15. 15 Simon Scowl Jan 29th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    Right-wingers are so bitter and such sore losers. I guess if you bitch and moan enough, then the outcome of the election will change? I’ve never seen such whiny-ass bellyaching in my life *Hands over a bowl of Cheerios for you to cry in*

    You seem upset.

    Lots of people express opinions on where my thermostat should be set, too. Doesn’t mean I’ll do it. I can tell someone what a good temperature is for theirs and it doesn’t mean they’ll do it.

    And if you tell someone what a good temperature is for theirs, but then you crank up yours, you’re a hypocrite. You’re asking people to change their behavior without doing so yourself. If you’re, say, the President of the United States of America who made energy conservation part of his campaign platform, you’re setting a bad example for the very people you once lectured.

    Am I going too fast for you?

  16. 16 Mel G Jan 29th, 2009 at 7:52 pm

    “Right-wingers are so bitter and such sore losers.”

    I am sure that Al Gore still has nightmares about hanging chads…

  17. 17 Pastafarian Jan 29th, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    “Right-wingers are so bitter and such sore losers”!?!

    Where in the world have you been the last eight years?

  18. 18 Rocko Jan 29th, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    I lived in DC for 2 years. I’ve seen them not know how to drive in bad weather so it’s just common sense to close the schools. Everyday I wonder how you backup 4 lanes of traffic going in the same direction. There’s something wrong with the water or something down there. Keep taking jabs at the Washingtonians Mr. President.

    And the heat in the White House is probably broken (most likely Bush’s fault), remember when the e-mail system crashed (also most likely Bush’s fault) ?

    Minnow wins with the politicothermal concept. If we all powered our cars with Blagofuel we wouldn’t need to import or drill, hell, we’d have enough to export.

  19. 19 That person Jan 29th, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    “My children’s school was canceled today because of what? Some ice.”

    That’s a lovely comment, considering the ice storms in the Midwest and the South. Know what else is funny? All those people running from hurricanes. A little water never hurt anyone!

  20. 20 Fortunate Son Jan 29th, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Barak without the “C”, is his father, Barak H. Obama, who had some very disturbing ideas on Asian ownership of property in Kenya. He wrote an article in the East Africa Journal in 1965 detailing his desires to deprive Asians of property.

    Barak H. Obama read his economics at Harvard University. He is currently in Nairobi working for his doctorate. His dissertaion is on “An econometric model of the staple theory of development”. His is one of the critiques picked among the many received in the Journal office of the Kenya’s Sessional Paper No 10. on African Socialism.

  21. 21 D--- Jan 29th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    I hate to breaks this to you Ani but I am not a right winger, far from it actually.

    I am someone who has looked indepthly into alternative energy for my home. I have 2 working windmills on my property handmade for less then $300 each. The problem is not the cost of the windmill technology its the cost of the required grid tie unit and/or battery storage. Solar panels are ridicously expensive (it would cost $50k for me to run my 2,000sq foot home off solar). The president has been preaching alternative energy and conservation, he would have a leg to stand on with me if he ordered windmills and solar panels be installed in the White House. He doesn’t have to worry about how much it costs.

  22. 22 Habanada Jan 29th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    Pasta stole the words right out of my mouth–anybody who calls conservatives “bitter, poor losers” is either completely blind and/or retarded, or has spent the last eight years living in another country from the one I’ve been in. Winewife also said exactly what I was going to–hypocrisy is the heart and spine of the whole liberal ideology, which is made super obvious by the fact that *their* whining and complaining about the Bush administration was “justified” and “perfectly reasonable,” but our stating accurate and relatively simple facts about the Obama administration is “out of control, bitter, hate-filled whining and poor sportsmanship.”

    The ironic thing is that the majority of Republicans and conservatives are handling this 100% better than the majority of left-wingers have these last 8 years. Their behavior has been abominable, even moreso because it was unjustified, but now it’s becoming completely disgusting as they castigate us for a version of what they themselves did with impunity.

    I say Hurrican wins this thread ;) And I will stand up and declare in a loud and hearty voice, “Obama ‘is a giant fraud, a liar, and a douche’” — and I hope there’s still a country here to laugh at his stupidity when his administration finally runs out.

  23. 23 Becky Jan 30th, 2009 at 2:07 am

    EVERYONE is whiny. Is this new to you folks? The democrats whined when Bush won, and the republicans whined when Obama won. This is what happens. You lose, you whine. It’s still tacky for Obama to say one thing and do another, admittedly. But, if he helps the economy and gets me more money, I’m all for it. I love money.

  24. 24 Simon Scowl Jan 30th, 2009 at 3:02 am

    It’s still tacky for Obama to say one thing and do another, admittedly.

    Well, considering that was the whole point of the post…

    But, if he helps the economy and gets me more money, I’m all for it. I love money.

    Good luck with that.

  25. 25 Simon Scowl Jan 30th, 2009 at 5:07 am

    you can tell total right wingers run this site. and if you dont like obama, there are always other countries you can go live in you know.

    Help, my dissent is being repressed! ;)

  26. 26 LYTEUP Jan 30th, 2009 at 8:19 am

    Simon, how come you do all the political (read: Obama) stories and Holly does all the Hollywood/ entertainment stories but the Oversneer does nothing?
    GODDAMNIT, OVERSNEER, WHY ARE YOU SO LAZY?!

  27. 27 bigmama Jan 30th, 2009 at 9:08 am

    Hey, Anonymous, for most of the Bush years, certain liberals threatened to leave the U.S. (hello Mr. Baldwin). Conservatives won’t leave no matter who is president. Why? Because, they love their country and because what we do here won’t be allowed in most other countries. Can you imagine Deceiver in Russia or Saudi Arabia. Hell, even in France you can get arrested for talking bad about someone. Just ask Brigdette(sp?) Bardot.
    The point is, liberals only like their country when everything is going their way. Ask a conservative if they hate America because Barack Obama is president. They may hate his policies or even him, but they stand by the ideals that made this country great. And, they don’t need movie stars and celebrities making stupid You-Tube videos to do the right thing for other citizens. They just do it.

  28. 28 D---- Jan 30th, 2009 at 9:30 am

    You don’t have to be a conservative or a Republican to question the anointed one.

  29. 29 The Oversneer Jan 30th, 2009 at 10:08 am

    GODDAMNIT, OVERSNEER, WHY ARE YOU SO LAZY?!

    Criminey — Can’t a brother get some vacation time? Hope and change, everyone. It’s cool.

    Here — Catch up on my greatest hits.

    http://deceiver.com/author/oversneer/

  30. 30 Jrod Jan 30th, 2009 at 10:10 am

    One of the most entertaining Comments sections in awhile!

  31. 31 Kaliska Jan 30th, 2009 at 11:33 am

    Too lazy to figure out how to work the “quote” crap. Probably should learn that at some point. Meh, kids these days with their fancy internet stuff.

    Anyway, yes it’s hypocritical to say one thing and do another. Yet I’m concerned with D– ’s comments that he should be installing solar/wind/blagofuel energy at the White House. It’s week two people. D– himself said it was expensive as hell to finance it for a 2000 sq ft. house let alone the White House.

    So this seems to be a damn if you do, damned if you don’t situation since if Obama announced today that they were going to start retrofitting the White House for green energy, people would be up in arms about the cost.

    Besides, he looks hot (pun intended) without the jacket on. :P

  32. 32 Victor Jan 30th, 2009 at 11:47 am

    I live just outside of Washington (about 15 miles from the White House, straight-line) and I work 2 blocks from it. It was an ice storm–which is what caused Chicago to close schools a few years ago (and I apologize for not being able to find the report I saw yesterday). There’s a huuuge difference between driving on ice and driving on snow.

    And keep in mind Washington has a boatload of *transient* dwellers–you know, people who come here to work for two or four years then go back to their old Florida home, where they tell tales of people who don’t know how to drive in the snow, forgetting to mention they’re one of the idjits who don’t know how to drive in the snow themselves.

    And let’s not forget those stories of mulit-car pileups in snowstorms in the Midwest, where people allegedly know how to drive in the snow.

  33. 33 Aleric Jan 30th, 2009 at 11:51 am

    Well hell I am a Republican and I love this country, it would take armed men to force me out regardless of who is in the WH.

    I love pointing out PEBO’s flaws to his adoring masses. It reminds me of the Clinton years when it was discovered he was running a brothel out of the oval office. All you had to do to make a liberal stop talking was say Monice Lewinski. LOL

  34. 34 Baba Yaga Jan 30th, 2009 at 11:57 am

    Right-wingers are so bitter and such sore losers…I’ve never seen such whiny-ass bellyaching in my life

    Yeah, because the left was *totally* respectful and accepting of GWB winning the 2000 and 2004 elections.

    Even though I didn’t vote for Obama, I respect and accept that he is President. However, that doesn’t mean I won’t criticize his administration when I think it is wrong.

    Besides, I thought “dissent is patriotic.” Or is that just when a Republican is President?

  35. 35 Pastafarian Jan 30th, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    You can stop a liberal from talking?

    Say that reminds me…

    How do you keep a clown from laughing.

    Hit him in the face with an axe.

  36. 36 Simon Scowl Jan 30th, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    It’s week two people.

    And? How long are we supposed to wait until he starts practicing what he preaches?

  37. 37 Simon Scowl Jan 30th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    Simon, how come you do all the political (read: Obama) stories and Holly does all the Hollywood/ entertainment stories but the Oversneer does nothing?

    How many inaccuracies can you pack into one sentence?

  38. 38 Jannah Jan 30th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    Sheesh, BHO seems to be “from” wherever it suits the current arguement!

    I too moved from the north to the south and found the reactions to light snowy weather hilarious. But even I’m smart enough to see that in the south you don’t have a bunch of sand and salt trucks waiting at the ready around town for the snow and ice to pile up like in the north, so it’s a bit more of a problem getting around especially when the drivers aren’t used to it. Since BHO is from the north (Chicago) and the south (Hawaii) also, he should have been more sensitive, like a “good liberal” would be. Could he be showing some of his non-messiah personality already??? :-O

  39. 39 Jrod Jan 30th, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    “And let’s not forget those stories of mulit-car pileups in snowstorms in the Midwest, where people allegedly know how to drive in the snow.” – Victor

    Because some yahoo from Florida started the pile up…

  40. 40 Kristine Jan 30th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    Guess we know where Michelle’s $300,000 a year went…

    I agree that there’s no reason he can’t install a geothermal system — about the only green technology efficient enough to be worth anything. And seeing as he’s manage to jack the country up in only two weeks, I think he could do something as silly as authorize geothermal.

    In the end, I agree with Jrod — watch out, or after he’s finished tearing up Rush, he’ll be after Deceiver.

  41. 41 Scott F. Jan 30th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    “Because some yahoo from Florida started the pile up…”

    Thank you Jrod! Who knew you were an astute observer of humanity as well as a lovable horndog. When I was in high school I used to make a monthly drive out to see my mother in Minneapolis from Indy. It never failed (be it in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, ect.) that if there was a major traffic screw-up, you’d find a car with a far away license plate at the front of it.

    I would point out that it’s not just the Northeast or even us in the Midwest that know how to drive in the snow as some have pointed out here – you’re skipping over some of the best bad weather drivers in the country: namely Alaskans and people native to(not morons from California that moved there to avoid the taxes) Colorado. I never had any trouble making the drive from Colorado Springs to Denver, no matter how much snow piled up.

  42. 42 Pastafarian Jan 30th, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    I think there’s one really big reason he can’t install a geothermal system in the White House.

    http://www1.eere.energy.gov/geothermal/geomap.html

    Kind of hard to do if there’s no geothermal activity. But it is Obama. Maybe he can fix all that.

  43. 43 Victor Jan 30th, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    Thanks, Pasta. I was gonna point out DC was built on a swamp and that there’s an underground river in the area immediately around the White House (part of the Treasury has a tunnel going underneath it), but pretty pictures are so much better.

  44. 44 Bruce Jan 30th, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    Pastafarian, Ground Source Heat Pumps are also regularly referred to as Geothermal.

    http://www1.eere.energy.gov/femp/procurement/eep_groundsource_heatpumps.html#whatis

  45. 45 LYTEUP Jan 31st, 2009 at 6:28 am

    “How many inaccuracies can you pack into one sentence?”

    You are such a little whiny gaylord, seriously, Simon. I don’t know why I love you, maybe it’s because you ARE a whiny gaylord. Hell, I think I am a whiny gaylord as well. TWINS!

  46. 46 Pastafarian Jan 31st, 2009 at 11:30 am

    Thanks Brucey. But I admit to only skimming most of that. I’m going to guess something like that would only be effective if you lived, again in the West/Southwest. Tankless water heaters for instance are swell. Except they have to work 10 times as hard because the water comes out of the ground so cold here in the winter. So where’s the savings? Kinda like those low flow toilets right? They use a third the water but if you have to flush ‘em three times, I’m exaggerating a little but you see what I mean?

    It says, I believe under the best conditions it’ll save you $23,000 over a lifetime. But what’s installation? $20,000 I bet. At least. And I’m willing to bet it isn’t anywhere as effective as someone might tell you. So for now I’ll stick with the energy wasting stuff because it’s reliable, I don’t have an extra 20-30 grand minimum lying around so I can save the Earth, plus an old fashioned water heater is $500, and I can install it myself. Or I would if I wasn’t so lazy.

  47. 47 Simon Scowl Jan 31st, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    You are such a little whiny gaylord, seriously, Simon.

    All that and homophobia too…

    Anyway, your statement was wholly inaccurate. I’m sorry that you misinterpreted this observation as whining. Have a good day.

  48. 48 k Feb 1st, 2009 at 12:36 am

    72°? I keep my thermostat at 65°.

    Okay, okay, I turned it up to 68° when the wind chills hit below -20°. But once those wind chills came back up to zero, that thermostat went down again. And I only turned it up so the pipes wouldn’t freeze. The people who live here can put on another sweatshirt and two pairs of socks.

    Words mean things, unless they don’t. I’m gonna give that one a try…maybe I can be a happier and more productive member of society then!

  49. 49 Habanada Feb 1st, 2009 at 10:26 am

    Gosh, I so rarely know what LYTEUP is talking about. It’s like this kid talks in word salads (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_salad).

  50. 50 Bruce Feb 1st, 2009 at 12:04 pm

    Pastaforbrains … the economics are in the link.

    In fact, if you could read, you could see the costs savings were based on commercial buildings in Washington DC!

    And the systems work great in places with nice underground water (like Washington DC) because the cool water helps with the A/C.

    If The One’s stimulous package ONLY mandated Ground Source Heat Pumps, it would save the USA vast quantities of money over the long term and make it more energy independent in the medium term and generate a lot of jobs sooner and in the USA instead of say Brazil (where GM will be spending 1 billion).

    Of course the stimulous package is all about rewarding Democrats and funding stupid expensive pet projects that will actually do NOTHING.

  51. 51 Bruce Feb 1st, 2009 at 12:08 pm

    Pastaforbrains, one last thing.

    The other example had 4,000 military houses upgraded for 19,000,000. And dropped energy consumption by 32%.

    I’ll do the math for you. Thats $4750 per unit.

    “The total value of all energy and maintenance savings is approximately $3 million per year”

  52. 52 Becky Feb 1st, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    Thanks for quoting me out of context, Simon! ;)

    keep fighting the good fight.

  53. 53 Pastaforbrains Feb 1st, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    Great!

  54. 54 Pastaforbrains Feb 1st, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    By the way. Since they work so good and it’s only $5,000, and not the $20,000 I guessed, I assume you finished typing, and called your local Ground Source Heat Pump Installation Specialists right away?

  55. 55 Simon Scowl Feb 1st, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    Thanks for quoting me out of context, Simon!

    By all means, feel free to place your statement in context. Are you saying you actually think Obama is going to give you money, rather than take it from you?

  56. 56 Bruce Feb 2nd, 2009 at 12:09 am

    Pastaforbrains, I did something better. I called the White House and suggested they do somethig smart and include GSHP for evreyone in the the Stimulous Plan.

    They asked me how much I donated to Obama, laughed in my face when I told them and hung up.

  57. 57 Pastafarian Feb 2nd, 2009 at 7:13 am

    Hey if they want to give me a free GSHP for free, plus a lot of free money to stimulate MY economy, I’m all for it because that’s what I’m all about. Me. I’d also love one of those kick ass Generac whole house generators while they’re at it.

  58. 58 MC Mom Feb 2nd, 2009 at 6:12 pm

    Wow, k! Shall we all have a contest to see who keeps their thermostat the lowest and who’s got the crappiest winter weather?

  59. 59 Pastafarian Feb 2nd, 2009 at 6:34 pm

    You guys are wimps. I keep mine set at absolute zero.

  60. 60 k Feb 3rd, 2009 at 9:33 am

    I live in the Midwest. One point for me. :)

    (heh. I’ll probably get smacked for saying this but I could do with moar snow. I love snow days.)

  61. 61 Beige Feb 4th, 2009 at 9:07 am

    Yeah, y’all need to be careful; despite the screeching from Democrats during the Bush years, the stifling of dissent is about to start for REAL.

  62. 62 Beige Feb 4th, 2009 at 9:15 am

    Oh–and as for BHO looking “hot”: Dude wouldn’t look hot if he doused himself in habanero-laced lighter fluid and flicked a Bic. He is, in fact, the antidote to hot.

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