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	<title>Comments on: Besides, Don&#8217;t You Want to Know What Obama&#8217;s Got Up His Sleeves?</title>
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	<description>The two-faced and famous have something new to worry about.</description>
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		<title>By: Habanada</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2009/02/06/besides-dont-you-want-to-know-what-obamas-got-up-his-sleeves/comment-page-1/#comment-18951</link>
		<dc:creator>Habanada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean, Pinandpuller, that if we kept buildings at a normal temperature, people wouldn&#039;t be impelled to run around half dressed?! What a ridiculous notion! 

lol, I can see them having meetings now, on the two stripey couches, with the camera zooming in on each person . . . Obama going, &quot;OMG, my ears are huge! *giggle*&quot; Okay, now I&#039;m taumatized ^_^ THANKS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean, Pinandpuller, that if we kept buildings at a normal temperature, people wouldn&#8217;t be impelled to run around half dressed?! What a ridiculous notion! </p>
<p>lol, I can see them having meetings now, on the two stripey couches, with the camera zooming in on each person . . . Obama going, &#8220;OMG, my ears are huge! *giggle*&#8221; Okay, now I&#8217;m taumatized ^_^ THANKS.</p>
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		<title>By: GlossLip &#187; Over The Weekend&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>GlossLip &#187; Over The Weekend&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 13:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] oh, I don&#8217;t know, appointing people to office who have paid their taxes or something? - Deceiver      Posted by kFiled under: Over The Weekend   var zorpia_story_url = [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] oh, I don&#8217;t know, appointing people to office who have paid their taxes or something? &#8211; Deceiver      Posted by kFiled under: Over The Weekend   var zorpia_story_url = [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pinandpuller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pinandpuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 03:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well my question is, what&#039;s the point of jacking up the heat if you are going to take your jacket off?

I bet at some point the Obam Office will look like the Foreman&#039;s basement on &quot;That 70&#039;s Show&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well my question is, what&#8217;s the point of jacking up the heat if you are going to take your jacket off?</p>
<p>I bet at some point the Obam Office will look like the Foreman&#8217;s basement on &#8220;That 70&#8217;s Show&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Minnow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 01:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Wasn’t it a big deal that Bush insisted on always wearing a suit and tie?&quot;

Yep.  Clinton ran a very loose ship.  I remember reading a quote from Rahm Emanuel about his days at the White House under Clinton.  Rahm had an internal debate with himself that very first morning about whether &quot;jeans or a sports coat&quot; was appropriate attire.

Guess he&#039;d never heard of a suit and tie at that point.

W&#039;s theory was that casual dress codes resulted in a relaxed atmosphere which was demeaning to the status of the office.  Apparently George H.W. was also a serious stickler about suits and ties for men and proper skirt lengths (no pant suits) on female staffers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wasn’t it a big deal that Bush insisted on always wearing a suit and tie?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yep.  Clinton ran a very loose ship.  I remember reading a quote from Rahm Emanuel about his days at the White House under Clinton.  Rahm had an internal debate with himself that very first morning about whether &#8220;jeans or a sports coat&#8221; was appropriate attire.</p>
<p>Guess he&#8217;d never heard of a suit and tie at that point.</p>
<p>W&#8217;s theory was that casual dress codes resulted in a relaxed atmosphere which was demeaning to the status of the office.  Apparently George H.W. was also a serious stickler about suits and ties for men and proper skirt lengths (no pant suits) on female staffers.</p>
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		<title>By: winewife</title>
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		<dc:creator>winewife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 06:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alas, Beige, I too am a married woman.  I guess we&#039;ll have to settle for being just friends.  *Sigh*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alas, Beige, I too am a married woman.  I guess we&#8217;ll have to settle for being just friends.  *Sigh*</p>
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		<title>By: Kristine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 02:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh. Wasn&#039;t it a big deal that Bush insisted on always wearing a suit and tie?... which I think should be done. The (literal) office of the presidency is a little more than manager at Burger King.

However, I agree. The cigarette butts all over concerns me more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh. Wasn&#8217;t it a big deal that Bush insisted on always wearing a suit and tie?&#8230; which I think should be done. The (literal) office of the presidency is a little more than manager at Burger King.</p>
<p>However, I agree. The cigarette butts all over concerns me more.</p>
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		<title>By: Habanada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Habanada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 23:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I clicked on the link and have a few observations. Like the fact that the title is &quot;BUSH Jacketless&quot; when it actually covers like four presidents going sans jacket (I suppose the justification could be &#039;he was the most recent&#039;). 

Also that it fishes around with &quot; It turns out that going casual in the Oval Office is a long, time-honored tradition that pre-dates the Bush administration: JFK did it. Gerald Ford did it. Ronald Reagan did it. Jimmy Carter did it. Clinton did it (a lot).&quot; The Clinton &quot;a lot&quot; is what&#039;s really striking me right now.

Also, there&#039;s a fantastic difference between &quot;the public has never seen a picture of Bush sans jacket until now&quot; and &quot;I have seen ONE picture of Obama in a jacket and tie!&quot;

Beige is right and I say she wins the thread for using the word &quot;hubris&quot; ^_^ People who try so hard to LOOK as though they&#039;re doing work . . . well, they very rarely are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I clicked on the link and have a few observations. Like the fact that the title is &#8220;BUSH Jacketless&#8221; when it actually covers like four presidents going sans jacket (I suppose the justification could be &#8216;he was the most recent&#8217;). </p>
<p>Also that it fishes around with &#8221; It turns out that going casual in the Oval Office is a long, time-honored tradition that pre-dates the Bush administration: JFK did it. Gerald Ford did it. Ronald Reagan did it. Jimmy Carter did it. Clinton did it (a lot).&#8221; The Clinton &#8220;a lot&#8221; is what&#8217;s really striking me right now.</p>
<p>Also, there&#8217;s a fantastic difference between &#8220;the public has never seen a picture of Bush sans jacket until now&#8221; and &#8220;I have seen ONE picture of Obama in a jacket and tie!&#8221;</p>
<p>Beige is right and I say she wins the thread for using the word &#8220;hubris&#8221; ^_^ People who try so hard to LOOK as though they&#8217;re doing work . . . well, they very rarely are.</p>
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		<title>By: Minnow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 23:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Winewife wrote: &quot;I believe in the “Broken Window” theory and that casual disrespect in small things can signal/lead to disrespect in big things.&quot;

I&#039;ve read well reasoned postulations that Clinton&#039;s blue jean atmosphere led to Monica, so you might have a really good point there Ww.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Winewife wrote: &#8220;I believe in the “Broken Window” theory and that casual disrespect in small things can signal/lead to disrespect in big things.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read well reasoned postulations that Clinton&#8217;s blue jean atmosphere led to Monica, so you might have a really good point there Ww.</p>
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		<title>By: Beige</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beige</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG, Winewife referred to the Broken Window Theory.  I love you, Winewife.  Chastely, purely, because I&#039;m a married woman.  But still.  

I don&#039;t think the shirtsleeves thing bothers me that much, although his hubris in contriving to look &quot;hardworking&quot; when he&#039;s really such a sock puppet does bug.  And how delicious is it that he likes it hot and his initials are BO?  [Insert foghorn sound effect here.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, Winewife referred to the Broken Window Theory.  I love you, Winewife.  Chastely, purely, because I&#8217;m a married woman.  But still.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the shirtsleeves thing bothers me that much, although his hubris in contriving to look &#8220;hardworking&#8221; when he&#8217;s really such a sock puppet does bug.  And how delicious is it that he likes it hot and his initials are BO?  [Insert foghorn sound effect here.]</p>
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		<title>By: Pastafarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pastafarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it sucks how badly the constitution, and democracy have been shredded so I can&#039;t make wise ass remarks, or question our leaders on the internet or in person without being hauled in somewhere because of Bush.

Now if Obama wanted to ask me a question in my driveway, what could possibly go wrong with that? I mean he&#039;s a liberal right? Right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it sucks how badly the constitution, and democracy have been shredded so I can&#8217;t make wise ass remarks, or question our leaders on the internet or in person without being hauled in somewhere because of Bush.</p>
<p>Now if Obama wanted to ask me a question in my driveway, what could possibly go wrong with that? I mean he&#8217;s a liberal right? Right?</p>
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