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09

Octomom Definitely Receiving Government Assistance

octomom_ajNadya “Octomom” Suleman — unemployed mother of 14 and most recently octuplets — is pretty much batshiz crazy, it turns out.

Some blogs are pointing to evidence of what appears to be her obsession with Angelina Jolie, including the impression that she’s had plastic surgery to slim her nose and fill out her lips. Oh yeah, and the baby collecting.

But there is one important distinction between AJ and Octomom: the ability to afford to adequately feed and clothe their families.

Octomom swore to Ann Curry during their sitdown last week that she doesn’t receive government assistance:

“I’m not receiving help from the government. I’m not trying to expect anything from anybody.”

She went on to call money “superfluous.” Except, of course, when the welfare checks start showing up, according to her publicist (how she is paying for one is beyond me):

Nadya Suleman, 33, has previously insisted that she will not be claiming benefits, however her publicist has since confirmed that she already receives food stamps and child disability payments to help feed and care for her six other children.

‘In her view these are just payments made for people with legitimate needs and are not, in her view, welfare,’ said publicist Mike Furtney.

‘She just believes that there are programs for people with needs and she and her children qualify for some of them.’

I am not anti-welfare by any means, but surely mothers who voluntarily elect to undergo in vitro fertility treatments do not count as “people with needs.” Amiright?

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78 Responses to “Octomom Definitely Receiving Government Assistance”


  1. 1 bigmama Feb 10th, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    Nice. My husband and I are trying to figure out how to pay for his medicine and will being getting no help while this ho gets all the help she can weasel out of the government. Close your uterus and get a job, lady. Plus, she looks like the trailer park version of Jolie.

  2. 2 Stan Feb 10th, 2009 at 1:05 pm

    She just knocked Courtney Love off my crazy chicks I’d like to bang list.

  3. 3 heather Feb 10th, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    This lady makes me so angry! Reporters and magazines need to stop paying for interviews with her (*coughcough People coughcough*) because it is only feeding what she wanted… attention and money.

  4. 4 Patrick of Atlantis Feb 10th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    It was reported earlier that she was going to breast feed the whole litter, so the little whelps are sure to grow up hungry. It was also reported that all the children have the same sire. I wonder when his identity will be found out and if it is someone who has already made it on this site.

  5. 5 D---- Feb 10th, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    My wife and I were talking about this when it happened. You want lots of kids? Good but pay for it your damn self. I got 4 kids of my own who like to eat (spoiled little demon seeds that they are).

  6. 6 Pastafarian Feb 10th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    Octomom? 14 kids? Don’t you see? She isn’t bat crazy, she’s trying to raise up her own army. She’s already got a cool nickname. Once they’re old enough she can dress them all alike and send them out to do her bidding. Fools. You just aren’t paying attention.

  7. 7 Minnow Feb 10th, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    I keep wondering if this is the beginnings of a bad case of Munchausen’s by Proxy.

    Seriously, if you’re willing to birth 14 babies to get a little attention, what will you do to keep that attention going?

    I really hope social services keeps her on their radar.

  8. 8 StrawberryGirl Feb 10th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    I think Pasta is on to something!

  9. 9 Queen Bee Feb 10th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    Holly, you are so right. Nadya is so obviously mentally ill. She thinks everything will just work out yet she doesn’t have a job? There is so much gossip flying around about this woman but here is what I have heard. She spent her student loan money to pay $100,000 for her IVF treatments. She has obviously had work down. How did she pay for that? Any time Ann Curry asked her a practical question, Nadya had an airy fairy answer, “Money is just paper”…..”I’ll give them love.” Yeah, you know what? I give my one daughter lots of love and attention. Another great thing I give her? A sense of stability.
    I don’t think she has Munchausen’s by Proxy. I think she does have some sort of personality disorder. Angelina Jolie is pretty well known to have aged out of her borderline personality disorder. And, despite the fact that Ang and Brad have boat loads of money, I think her compulsion to collect children is a little twisted. Big difference is, Ang has resources and help to raise her children. I also wonder why her parents indulge her so much. At one point, her mom said a psychiatrist told her that she needed to throw Nadya out of the house so she would stop breeding. Mom felt bad about the grandkids welfare (something Nadya doesn’t have a grasp of) and couldn’t do it.
    There is so much wrong with this whole scenario it makes my head swim. What will happen is, if she chooses to go back to school (anyone here want to see her as a counselor? Didn’t think so.) her daycare will be about $15,000 a month. I’m sure we will pay that out of pocket, with no subsidy from medicaid. I am also sure she will pay the estimated $1 to 3 million for the nicu care these kids are receiving and it won’t be absorbed by the taxpayers of California. I’m in favor of welfare helping people in need but she wasn’t in need. This wasn’t some sort of accident, it was all intended and damn, she shouldn’t get a dime from the government to raise her kids (This from a bleeding heart liberal)

  10. 10 Aleric Feb 10th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    Well I am anti-Welfare so stop wasting my money you AJ Wanna be.

  11. 11 Fortunate Son Feb 10th, 2009 at 3:48 pm

    I believe this woman may be slightly mentally ill, so I will go lightly on her.

    She has clearly had Restylane injected in her lips. Old photos of her do not show the same exaggerated lips.

    Its not these 14 kids fault that she’s a screwball, and they shouldn’t go hungry because of it, so I say give her the aid necessary to feed and clothe the kids.

    I was never a big fan of planned populations, whether it be China’s one child policy, leaving your female kids on ice floes, or selectively killing one fetus to increase survivability of another or the mother – simply because I like level playing fields and letting people of all sizes compete for their position in life. Its not an abortion issue. I really don’t care either way on that subject, but in this particular instance, competition aligns with anti-abortion viewpoints.

    From a legislation standpoint, I’m not sure there’s any difference between telling a mother they can only have two kids and telling her she can only have 13 kids. Is there?

    I’m also not sure that a mother that plans to pay for her fourteen kids’ needs with publicity/a tv show that should eventually bring them off the public dole isn’t someone who is trying to be responsible after an irresponsible act.

  12. 12 Annie Feb 10th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    Rofl@ demon seeds.

    Holly, you should consider showing the before picture of this woman too. It’s remarkable to see how much plastic surgery she’s gotten.

    And I don’t think AJ “collects” children.

    The Duggars…now the Duggars collect children.

  13. 13 Joshua Feb 10th, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    I’m curious–how many single mom’s with just one kid or two can get by without government help? Say she had stopped at two kids, would she be able to feed them/pay for child care and pay rent and for a car etc on less than say, 70k ? It’s easy to harp on the unemployed mom with a ton of kids, but the economics of it weren’t in favor of her working/not receiving gov’t help 12 kids ago (unless she’s a doctor/lawyer/engineer).

  14. 14 angry army wife Feb 10th, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    What gets me is the fact that the doctors knew she had 6 other kids by invitro (4 by one guy, 2 by another) and still allowed the procedure for her, even though they know that muliple births are common with in vitro. Her mom has even said that she does not know what to do because they have had to support her and pay her bills. Kick her out of the house. She did this to herself. She paid to get pregnant, 5 times! (twins and then octuplets). No husband, no job and she thinks that she will not need welfare. This is the very reason why I am against welfare for some people. Others work hard and cannot make ends meet while others expect the help.

  15. 15 Constance Feb 10th, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    Seriously bat-s#!t crazy. The more I read about this skank, the more I want to track her down and beat her. Not that a beating would change her mental instability, but more for my own piece of mind.

    She’s a compulsive liar and her parents are unfortunately not into tough love. She made a comment about how God will help her during the Ann interview and I vomitted a bit in my mouth. Living off of other people’s money is not God. I’m pretty much going back to not watching the Today show after this f*%kery and I’m totally ont he bandwagon to boycott anyone who supports her “efforts” to live like a complete piece of trash. She hasn’t been to her little sardine haven in months and I’m sure she doesn’t call to check up on the little minions either.

    She already has at least 3 children with disabilities and now she might have 8 more with problems related to their premature births. When is a statement from the California Children and Family Services going to be released saying they are investigating the children’s living conditions and possible fraudulent use of taxpayer money?! Grandma says that the sperm donor is her boyfriend who wanted to marry her, but she refused knowing that her benefits might be reduced or cut off. Lovely Parenting >.>;

  16. 16 Beige Feb 10th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    I don’t have a problem w/the Duggars, b/c AFAIK they’re self-supporting. If there’s proof that they’re not, please let me know. The Duggars are not a single, welfare-sucking psycho living with her parents, whom she CLAIMS messed her up but who are now mysteriously expected to help raise her litter.

  17. 17 D---- Feb 10th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    I haven’t heard one person mention that she paid for all this stuff using her student loans/grants. I don’t know much about the student loan process but aren’t most student loans given or backed by the US government? If so then she used our money not to better her life so she can pay the loans back but to get plastic surgery and have kids.

    I feel my faith in humanity is slipping….will someone please help me with this impending crisis by posting a witty and completely inappropriate comment

  18. 18 Simon Scowl Feb 10th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    I feel my faith in humanity is slipping….will someone please help me with this impending crisis by posting a witty and completely inappropriate comment

    Let’s see… if she needs money, she can try starring in a remake of Howard the Duck? (Sorry, the best I can come up with on short notice.)

  19. 19 Beige Feb 10th, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    I lost faith in the human race overall a long time ago. Individuals can be awesome, and quite often are. People as a group are another thing entirely.

  20. 20 Kaliska Feb 10th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    Next thing we know, MTV will be picking this stupid bitch up. I bet they’ve already got the 12 bedroom giant shoe shaped house under construction. Now if only I could come up with a catchy name for this reality TV monstrosity. Hmm…and ideas Pasta? Simon?

  21. 21 Jrod Feb 10th, 2009 at 5:10 pm

    I’d hit it. Come to think of it…did I? Holy Crap, you guys don’t know me!

  22. 22 bigmama Feb 10th, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    We forgot the most important question-Would Jrod hit it?

  23. 23 MC Mom Feb 10th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    Take heart, Kaliska…if MTV picks her up maybe she’ll earn enough to get off the dole. I’d rather have the networks support her than the California taxpayers, who already have enough to deal with.

  24. 24 Catharine Feb 10th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    Am I the only one who wonders why she had them by in-vitro? Why not the natural way? Strange.

  25. 25 Julie Feb 10th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    Seems that once she stops hugging them & they grow up a little, she loses interest & needs to restock on babies. I believe that she only wants babies and once they can walk & talk back, she is ready to dump them for some new models. The grandmother is already raising the other 6 kids by herself (3 diabled), as this wacko hasn’t been around for several months due to her pregnancy. I truly think the best thing for these children would be for CPS to take them away before the leave the hospital. She said her mother (the grandmother) would help her with them, but I have heard the grandmother say she is already overwhelmed & that her daughter’s actions are “unconscionable”. The grandmother was able to stop the first fertility doctor at 6 kids, so crazy lady found a more disreputable one to implant eight more eggs. It appears she has spent her disability money on plastic surgery & IVF and is now looking to student loans to keep going. Does she know the word “loan” means you have to pay it back? Probably not since she doesn’t think food stamps are welfare. I assume (hope) that the government is listening & she is not able to get any student loans (they were difficult for me to get when I was young & single.) These are for SCHOOL, not for creating your own SCHOOL YARD full of kids. And, what’s the matter with having a job & the money to feed them BEFORE they are born, not waiting until some far-off fantasy day when she might be able to graduate. Who would give this whack-job a psychology degree? They have to go through lots of analysis and she won’t make it, so, what’s her plan then?

  26. 26 Ani Feb 10th, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    “surely mothers who voluntarily elect to undergo in vitro fertility treatments do not count as “people with needs”

    Well, generally speaking people who get in-vitro generally aren’t living below the poverty line, either. As my doctor put it “it costs as much as a Cadillac” (speech I got when I decided to have my tubes tied at 22 because I really don’t want kids. Ever. He did it too *yay*).

    This whole thing makes me sick. She’s very self-centered “she always wanted a large family”, so she does this…without even having a solid income! So do a good number of people. They however, do not, because *gasp* they don’t have the resources and do the right thing and have what they know they can provide best for financially and emotionally.

    I wouldn’t call the Duggar’s “kid collectors”. They come across as a very functional family, and their religious beliefs encourage seeing every child as a gift from God. The children seem to receive a good deal of attention, and their new house definitely centers on spending a great deal of time together as a family (although I am shocked at how little “private” space there is). The Duggars are mentally able to handle 18 children.

    I definitely would NOT want her counseling my worst enemy, much less myself!

  27. 27 bigmama Feb 10th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    Jrod you beat me to it. Now go find about 3 new jobs so you can pay for your kids.

  28. 28 Katy Feb 10th, 2009 at 6:13 pm

    I say we start a fund to help Jrod support the love of his life and their oodles of offspring.

  29. 29 Minnow Feb 10th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    D wrote: “I don’t know much about the student loan process but aren’t most student loans given or backed by the US government?”

    I went to grad school on a combination of grant money and student loans; two were state lump sums and the loan was federally insured. I never saw any money, everything was issued directly to the tuition office. The only thing I did was sign for a release of scheduled funds every semester.

    Maybe it’s different now (12 years later) but I really can’t imagine a university taking the chance that a student will blow it on booze or bouncy boobs before covering tuition.

  30. 30 PA Feb 10th, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    Its not these 14 kids fault that she’s a screwball, and they shouldn’t go hungry because of it, so I say give her the aid necessary to feed and clothe the kids.

    I’d take the kids away from her and give her nothing.

  31. 31 Kristine Feb 10th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    Okay, I’ve read so many comments, I’ve lost track but let’s try to remember all of this…

    As for loans, in the day and age where we just give money away, it’s not as hard to get your hands on larger private loans… I never experienced it, but I’ve heard of people receiving additional checks from their loan companies just so idiotic college students will go spend it.

    Second, I just have to agree with Aleric’s pithy yet profound comment.

    Third, I agree, Fortunate, that it isn’t really the government’s right to tell people how many kids they can have. However, on the flip side, when you’re expecting that same government to pay your way… Which is why, in this case, her doctor should have been the one to step in. If you want to have an entire football team worth of kids the Jrod way fine, go for it, but when all of them are artificial? Just another example of humans playing God with not-so-good consequences.

    But never fear, as is typical, another person who is doing the wrong thing will get bailed out and provided for for the rest of their lives by the sensationalism obsessed private sector while decent, hard-working Americans struggle for the little bit they have while doing the right thing. Yes, I’ll take my bitter pill with a nice side of getting off my soapbox ;)

  32. 32 letinstar Feb 10th, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    octopussy is mentally ill…but clever enough to work the system to pop babies, take classes and have her lips and nose done…i know she says she love babies, but babies eventually grow up and some turn on their parents…this loon is outnumbered…

  33. 33 muppet2171 Feb 10th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    When I went back to school a few years ago, the financial aid office insisted on applying for ALL that I qualified for and gave me back whatever they didn’t use. I didn’t know enough to tell them not to. But I used the extra money for things like food, gas, utilities, etc… NOT plastic surgery, new manicure or IVF treatment (No kids…I can barely look after myself, let alone a kid). This woman is so far beyond unbelievable, I REALLY hope CPS steps in BEFORE those kids get out of the hospital…

  34. 34 Nati Feb 10th, 2009 at 11:55 pm

    “I got 4 kids of my own who like to eat”

    let’s trade! i have 1 daughter who doesn’t eat ANYTHING…u have to dangle several different meals in front of her, entreat and beg for several hours to make her eat something…i’m so jealous of parents whose children actually eat…i wouldn’t mind spending more money on food…i could cut corners elsewhere…like i could skip my crazy meds…or, better yet, make some extra cash selling them

  35. 35 Ani Feb 11th, 2009 at 1:37 am

    Same here, Muppet2171. I use my loans to pay for rent since I am living off campus. It’s actually less than living in the dorms and using a meal plan through the school. Dreading the day I pay all this *back* though. Advantages are, I’m in a quieter place, I have no pesky roommates, my own bathroom, and I eat healthier. Closest to a “fun” thing I’ve purchased is a set of highlighter pens. I’m trying to to overdo it here ;-) As far as kids go, I’ve taken care of that a while ago (when I had insurance that covered tubal ligations to young, single, childless women…woo!) LOL

    What I am trying to understand is how she gets disability when she’s a student? My SSI lawyer stated I couldn’t collect disability if I was a student because it means I *could* work if I am able to go to school. So, my only option is to keep pulling double-duty of work and school and very little else.

    I can understand the children receiving it (well, the autistic one, the other two I wonder what loophole they found for ADHD and “signs” of autism), but if you have a “bad back” yet can pop out that many kids via IVF… that isn’t fair to people who SHOULD get disability yet can’t and get denied…like a guy in my area who lost BOTH arms, and SSI said he doesn’t need his arms for his supervisor position so he is not entitled to disability (I wonder, who would feed him his lunch at his job? Help him use the toilet?).

  36. 36 trent bowie Feb 11th, 2009 at 7:33 am

    This chick needs to sew it up, like seriously. A uterus is not a clown car people!

  37. 37 angry army wife Feb 11th, 2009 at 8:13 am

    I am currently getting my Masters and I do not see any of my financial aid. They directly pay my school. I do have an excess of funds that I will receive when I graduate, but that is going towards my first payment. That will not be spent on anything else.

    As far as this crazy girl goes, she definitely needs help. She claims that she tried to get pregnant for several years while she was married, but could not. It could have been her husband. The fact that she has paid for every single in vitro operation is amazing to me, while collecting assistance from the state. I am still amazed that the doctors allowed her to get in vitro and did not insist on a psychological evaluation before hand. EVER!

  38. 38 angry army wife Feb 11th, 2009 at 8:29 am

    WOW! Who is going to hire her as a counselor? This is crazy. She plans on using her student loan money to support her kids while she is finishing school. I would like to know what kind of students loans she has that allows her to spend the money on things other than school related.

  39. 39 Victoria Feb 11th, 2009 at 9:08 am

    I love this web site and I love you guys! Ive been waiting for you to comment in this crazy ass bitch. So she paid for all this with student loan money? Hm it never occured to me to spend student loan money on anything other than SCHOOL! I love the “God will provide” comment. In my experience the only people who say that are those who either have the state providing for them or mommy and daddy.

  40. 40 Beige Feb 11th, 2009 at 9:19 am

    I am really conflicted, here. I mean, it’s fairly obvious that living with Vagina-as-clown-car is not in the best interests of these kids. Yet, I REALLY don’t like the government to jump in and take kids away from someone just because someone else thinks they should. Where do we draw the line on that one? Is there a magic number of kids?

  41. 41 jenn Feb 11th, 2009 at 9:53 am

    Who is the Doctor who performed the in vitro? He/she needs to be taken to task. I understand there are a lot of guidelines they are to follow and not just from a medical standpoint. Surely the Dr violated some of these? Are they not supposed to look a the emotional and financial capabilities of the parent as well? That person has got some explaining to do.

  42. 42 Constance Feb 11th, 2009 at 9:58 am

    Hmm short notice and unfortunately I’m not as witty this morning as I thought I was… Maybe its the lack of coffee.

    “Catch Them if You Can!”
    “2,4,6,8: Who don’t we appreciate? Mom!”
    “Stacked! The Suleman Sardine Show”
    “Guess what fell out of Mom this time?!”
    “Love not Paper: How to Afford a Family on Nothing”
    “15 Mins of Mom’s ‘Fame’”
    “A Girlfriend in ‘Need’ is a Financial Crisis Indeed”

  43. 43 T Feb 11th, 2009 at 10:02 am

    But her PR woman said she received DEATH THREATs people!

    You know someone is lying when they talk about “death threats.” Why? Because a threat against someone’s life is a felony. Where are the prosecutions? Police reports? If emailed or posted on a blog, what are the IP addresses of perpetrators? Why isn’t felonious assault against a celebrity making headlines by itself? If I threatened the life of a local celebrity, my identity would be plastered all over the evening news. If my life were threatened, I would call the police.

    Doesn’t add up. So her PR publicist is lying too.

  44. 44 h3llc4t Feb 11th, 2009 at 10:33 am

    I still put a large portion of the responsibility on the doctor here. Knowing her background, the fact that she already had six children, as well as the fact that multiple births carry a higher risk of birth defects (http://mch.peds.ufl.edu/recent_pubs/tang_risk_of_birth_defects_in_multiple_births.pdf), why didn’t they refuse the procedure or implant fewer eggs?
    I dunno, everyone’s free to be batshit insane I suppose, but I consider this an act of irresponsibility on the doctor’s part.

  45. 45 angry army wife Feb 11th, 2009 at 10:42 am

    Beige – for her, one was too many. The doctors should have not planted her this last time and they should be help accountable for their actions as well. Her parents are accountable as well for not kicking her out soon enough. She is 33 years old, but I wonder how old she really is mentally. I would like to know where she has gotten her student loans from and if they are aware of this. I guess she will be one of those student loans that are taken care of from the bailout, opps, I mean “stimulus package”

  46. 46 elark0 Feb 11th, 2009 at 11:05 am

    I don’t think there’s a “magic number” of kids that the government can dictate we have…but it’s like a lot of other people on welfare….if you have more kids, you get more money, so why not keep having kids? It’s not exactly a fair system for the people that actually need help; there’s too many people that take advantage, and they ruin it for the rest. There needs to be a cap: not necessarily on the number of kids, but perhaps on the amount of aid you receive and the duration for which you receive it.

    I get some of my student loan money back, but I use the “extra” to pay my rent and bills. I won’t even consider having kids until I have: 1) finished school, 2) gotten a stable job so I can support them, 3) health insurance, 4) paid back at least part of my loans. And then there’s that whole marriage thing, I want that, too :P I want to make sure I can PROVIDE for my kids, not leech off my parents or the government or society to raise my own private army.

    I still want to know how the government can look at someone like this and say, “Even though you’ve squandered thousands and thousands of dollars having these kids and your plastic surgery, we’ll help you pay for the kids because you’re unable.” WTF?! Where did the other money come from?! At some point Octopussy’s not going to qualify for student loans anymore, she’ll be maxxed out, and I don’t know how easy it is to get a private loan without having a job (actually…can someone let me know? I’m out of work and could use it…but not to pay for kids!!). And if she’s not in school half time, since she has 14 freaking kids to take care of….guess what? She has to start paying her loans back IMMEDIATELY. Unless they give her a break, too, for being a baby machine.

    People suck. The economy is bad enough these days without idiots like this taking what little resources the government has to give. And it’s even worse that freaks of nature like this are given publicity. The Duggars, at least, had their children one at a time (or maybe 2, I can’t remember if they have twins). But idiots like this chick, and that Kate beotch from Jon and Kate plus 8….freaks! Show me where, in nature, a human woman has naturally had this many children. We’re not dogs and cats! We have children, not litters!

    And it’s even worse that they get media attention, and people buy into it, causing MORE media attention…I feel the same way about stupid Paris Hilton and all that crap. Stop paying attention to them, they’ll go away.

    LOL….sorry….didn’t mean to rant so much…I’m in between tests…..5 tests for 3 classes this week, I’m stressed!

    So…yeah….that’s my $2.50. Since it was so much more than 2 cents!

  47. 47 elark0 Feb 11th, 2009 at 11:14 am

    Oh yeah – and I love that “food stamps” aren’t “welfare”!

    Food stamps aren’t welfare, just like Octopussy’s clown-car uterus isn’t ready to break out of her body and run away at this point. Or kill her.

    Food stamps aren’t welfare, just like herpes isn’t an STD, it’s just nature’s way of making you take a break from screwing around for a week or two.

    Food stamps aren’t welfare, just like Paris Hilton isn’t a stupid hobag with a wonky eye.

    Food stamps aren’t welfare, just like PETA is not a hypocritical organization.

    Haha….I can go on all day….but I really should be studying. Or having kids, I dunno, maybe I need to reevaluate my station in life.

  48. 48 Anti-Psychotic Feb 11th, 2009 at 11:41 am

    Maybe I’m cruel. Maybe I’m heartless. But I’ve got a freakin’ brain. This lady has no job, squanders her money on getting more babies, and expects the rest of the world to provide for her sick fantasies. So my question is this:

    WHERE THE HELL IS CHILD SERVICES?!?!?!?!?

    If somebody is being THAT irresponsible, you don’t leave it up to Grandma to take care of all fourteen kids. You have them removed from what is obviously an unhealthy situation. If the government is already taking care of the children, let’s just go to the next logical step and have them removed from her care before she can instill her psycho mentality on any of them.

    Note that I’m not against people who are jobless or have lots of kids. But she didn’t have a job to begin with. From the looks of it, she hasn’t even been looking. And she INTENTIONALLY overburdened herself with that many kids, KNOWING that she wouldn’t have the money to support any of them. Welfare is for people who have tried their hardest and come up short. For people like her, there’s the psych-ward.

  49. 49 Jannah Feb 11th, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    OMG, Minnow, what a thought (Munchausen’s by Proxy)! I can see it. She’s raising too many sickly kids than she can handle, so that she can get the attention. Ewwwwwww! Then again, I don’t eve think that she’s intelligent or sane enough to think this thing out beyond, “I want this.”

    Child services needs to get these babies into healthy foster homes ASAP.

  50. 50 Queen Bee Feb 11th, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    As someone who works in social services, I can tell you my experiences with CPS in the state of Washington. Their rules are that they won’t open a case unless there are clear cut signs of battering, i.e. cuts or bruises. In Washington, there have been several high profile cases where kids have died of starvation. Family members begged CPS to get involved but they declined. There were other cases of clear cut abuse where they declined to open a case or even investigate.
    I work with a person who works for CPS. After the last public case – a stepmother starved and refused to give water to her step daughter. Dad didn’t step in at all. Daughter would drink out of the toilet until step mom figured this out and would monitor her consumption. So, I ask my co-worker what the chatter on the floor was over that case. “That isn’t even in our county.” “Yes, it was.” “Oh, well, I don’t know anything about it.” Really? Anything happens at our agency that makes the press, we chit chat about it but something this horrific? Not even a conversation over the water cooler? This is CPS, “It’s not my problem,” at it’s finest.
    People will call my agency with horror stories. We will refer them to CPS and they will call us back after a few minutes, “They referred me back to you.” Our agency deals with mental health issues. If mom and dad are beating the kid, that’s CPS. If they are neglecting the kid’s welfare, that’s CPS. Yet CPS isn’t interested in some pretty horrific stuff. So, I doubt they will step in with octo-mom.
    I hope I am wrong.

  51. 51 Minnow Feb 11th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    Thanks Jannah for backing up my idea that Munchausen’s is a possibility here. I was feeling kinda bad for voicing that thought outloud.

    But of her original six, one kid is autistic and 2 others can only eat via feeding tube.

    And she says the doctors implanted 6 this time, found 7 via ultrasound and then advised her to terminate several for health reasons. She chose not to limit the fetuses which means she had to sign waivers saying she accepted the risk for each child.

    Which all boils down to the fact that she has puposefully created a situation where as many as 14 babies will have a significantly harder time developing normally.

    And she did it for camera attention.

    If that ain’t Munchausen’s by Proxy, what is it?

  52. 52 Beige Feb 11th, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    QB, that sounds about like Georgia (not my home state, but where we live now). Only here it’s also the opposite problem: Kids get taken away for unspecified reasons, and it can’t be publicized b/c of family court “privacy” rules. There are countless parents in Georgia whose kids were grabbed by DFCS from schoolbuses, and adopted out of state without parental okay. I thought that was some movie-of-the-week nonsense until Nancy Schaeffer made her reports public.

  53. 53 Beige Feb 11th, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    Oh–and before I forget: It pretty much sounds like everything I’ve ever heard/read/been told about Munchausen’s by proxy, too. I guess we’re supposed to think the Big Lots AJ is some kind of hero just because she hasn’t smothered any of hers to claim SIDS. Yet.

  54. 54 Jrod Feb 11th, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    Katy – Please send Check or Money order to:

    Jrod
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  55. 55 Julie Feb 11th, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    By the way, it appears she will require over 1 million dollars a year to support these kids. Student loans aren’t going to pay for this!

  56. 56 Minnow Feb 11th, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    Here’s the LA Times attempt to calculate what the octopii are costing taxpayers:

    http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-me-octuplets11-2009feb11,0,4385245.story?track=rss

  57. 57 Jeffrey Quick Feb 11th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    So, is Ty Pennington going to build her a mansion?
    When the cannibal pot finally springs a leak and there is no more government to take money from the rest of us and give it to Octomom, at least she’ll have 14 juicy babies to eat. Better than chowing down on ours piecemeal.

  58. 58 Kristine Feb 11th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    I’m thinking a few buns in the oven will be the perfect way to pay my $80,000 in student loans… I can go be on MTV’s “Made”… I want to be made into Octomom!

  59. 59 Beige Feb 11th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    Nothin’ says lovin’ like something in the oven.

    HEY! I got two chullrun! Where’s MAH check? Shoot, I done forgot to be a ho. They’s gold in them thar ovaries!

    Sorry. Channeled a Judd for a minute, there. Not the pro-abortion one, apparently…

  60. 60 Chewbacca Feb 11th, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    This Nadya chick is totally “cuckoo”, she has a few personalities twisted and she obviously does not get the big picture. I was denied aid for my end stage renal disease because the government claimed my husband earned an income, therefore I was ineligible, despite the fact that, I could no longer work and suffered a stroke because we had bills to pay. This chick knows how to play the system and how does she intend to pay these school loans, at what point would she draw the line between reality,ethics and conceitedness. I listened to her last night on Dateline and I wanted to reach into the TV and b—hslap her into reality! Did you see the look of disbelief on Ann Curry’s face? Just like Katie Couric interviewing Sarah Palin! I honestly think the Dept. of Child Welfare should step in, the state of california should investigate the ethical conduct of the fertility clinic, not to mention withdraw their license and slap them with penalties. A flag should have be raised once she mentioned bouts of depression, jobless, 6 kids, living with mother an so on. She should be held accountable for endangering the lives of her kids, mind you 3 of the 6 have disabilities…how many out of this octo herd will develop disabilities…practically almost all and these bills are supported with tax payers money.
    How absurb! She should be jailed for stupidity, selfishness and impersonating a female. That’s not what strong educated women do!

  61. 61 nicole Feb 11th, 2009 at 11:54 pm

    thing that kills me the most is how much does invitro cost?? a lotttttttttttttttttttttttt

  62. 62 Beige Feb 12th, 2009 at 7:55 am

    I have a sister who’s been undergoing in vitro. So far, no joy. Right about the time she and her husband find out the first pair of eggs didn’t take, here’s this selfish publicity whore popping out EIGHT, and then there’s the concurrently-running story from Florida about the “doctor” throwing away a live baby after a botched abortion. You can imagine how my sister feels. Or maybe not. Personally, I feel like throwing this skank a juicy beating.

  63. 63 SentWest Feb 12th, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    I can’t tell you how angry this makes me. I’m one of those really responsible people who is holding off having my desired one, maybe two kids until I’m sure I can provide for their needs independently and well. I’d dig holes for a living before I take a government dime.

    Having to support human lampreys like this incrementally wears down my will to even try. Why should I scrimp and save and be responsible when I can borrow whatever money I want (hey, just like congress!), do whatever I want, pop out babies like it’s a hobby, and then scream and wail that I’m not being taken care of in the fashion I deserve? Why not just be a slacker and get it handed to me?

    Besides the moral argument I have that it is simply wrong to waste a penny on any sort of fertility treatment while there are hordes of already living children in need of homes, this is just the best example of why wealth redistribution just does not work. Where the hell is John Galt already?

  64. 64 Minnow Feb 12th, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    Ohhhhh, ahhhhhh.

    15 bonus points to SentWest for the Galt reference! First one I’ve seen here. Bravo!

  65. 65 Beige Feb 12th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    It took me a minute, and I can honestly say I didn’t Google or Wiki, but I did get that one. SentWest, you’re an inspiration to us all.

  66. 66 Jenna Feb 15th, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    I get violent headaches, cluster headaches or “suicide headaches,” as neurologists often refer to them. Once a headache starts, the excruciating pain strikes 6-7 times per day and this goes on for as long as 30 straight days. The only thing that makes the violent head pain stop (at least until the next headache) is Imitrex injections. This is a prescription medicine that comes 2 shots to a box. Each box costs $150.00 PLUS. Using 3 boxes per day at $150.00 per box equals $450.00 PER DAY. The insurance companies will only pay for 6 boxes per MONTH. Without this one medication to give me some relief, I often, for the 1st time in my life, understand suicide. We struggle SO MUCH, paying for the medication I must have and we do not qualify for any type of government assistance to help me get the medicine that literally saves my life because my husband and I both work and now I read this “OctoMom” has no job, no husband, lives with her parents AND gets social security disability for her kids’ Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder AND welfare AND food stamps??? I cannot tell you how often MY family has had to eat bologna because the money all goes to pay for medicine for me. And yet somehow, “OctoMom” has had plastic surgeries and just WHO paid for her in vitro???? Our government has its priorities so screwed up! This is a woman, who, except for birthing 14 children, contributes ZERO to society. I think we should all boycott any network that gives This person a reality show. I know that I for sure will.

  67. 67 Beige Feb 15th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    Jenna, I am SO sorry to hear about that. Unfortunately, given the recent passage of the spendulus bill and the exponential growth of the government sector that will likely result, things are about to get that bad for a lot more of us. Those of us who actually aren’t on the government teat, that is. Hey, maybe we should ALL start whoring out and producing as many premature babies as possible, so we can ALL line up. I mean, it’s the government’s money, right? They can just print more, right?

  68. 68 jnick Feb 16th, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    Every time I hear about this woman, I can’t help but think of the “Every Sperm is Sacred” skit in Monty Python’s “Meaning of Life.” She’s going to sell them all for medical testing.

    On a more serious note, I work for the Department of Public Welfare for the state in which I live, and so am familiar with how the laws generally work. I can’t comment on each state specifically, since the laws actually vary quite a bit from state to state. However, I can say that despite the fact that any sane person can see this woman isn’t mentally stable enough to retain custody of these children, the state wouldn’t have the authority to remove them at this point. I realize it doesn’t seem fair or right, but that’s the way it is. The physical and mental health and well-being of the children has to be at SERIOUS risk for permanent removal. Even if Children and Youth Services did remove the children from the mother’s custody, the removal would most likely be overturned. Like I said, it doesn’t seem right, but the laws require a certain “level of danger,” if you will, to avoid abuse of the removal process. The main goal for most CYS agencies is permanency and reunification of the children with the biological family. Usually even if the children are removed, as long as the “alleged perpetrator” agrees to accept and then completes services, the children are returned to the home. If you don’t like it, don’t blame the CYS workers. They’re simply enforcing the laws on the books. You want it to change, change the laws.

  69. 69 MELANIE Feb 18th, 2009 at 12:03 pm

    WHO IS THE CRAZY DOCTOR THAT USED HER AS A PRACTICE DUMMY????? OR WERE THEY BOTH IN ON IT??? I FEEL SORRY FOR THE FOURTEEN CHILDREN ……… IT WOULD BE BEST IF THEY WERE ADOPTED.BUT WHO WOULD ADOPT ALL FOURTEEN IN ONE FAMILY?? HUMMMMMM MAYBE AJ ????

  70. 70 RenMom Feb 26th, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    I know other countries do population control. And I’m agaisnt forced abortions. But there is another option. When someone who is so obviously abusing the system, and so obviously crazy, breeds like this…they should do forced sterilazation! I’m not paying for someone else to abuse the system that I personally can’t get help from. I have 3 generations living in one home because we cant afford to eat if we live seperately. So why should we be expected to support her? She’s not using the money for the kids anyway. Notice her very nice nails, being able to afford IVF, plastic surgery? Hey I can’t even go into the doctors office when my asthma is out of control!

    Shame on her for being a nasty boil on the ass of society. Shame on the doctor for not following the ethics laws. By the way, has someone filed charges agaisnt him for that yet? He didn’t follow standard of care procedures obviously.

  71. 71 Beige Feb 26th, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    “Boil on the…”

    RenMom, I’ma bake you some cookies for that. Hugs.

  72. 72 Hard Working Mom in OKLAHOMA Mar 13th, 2009 at 11:35 pm

    I believe that public assistance is there for people who may need TEMPORARY help, due to a variety of reasons. But there are many who view these free benefits as a way of life. I call them “PROFESSIONAL COLLECTORS” They know just how much they can get from any & every available program. When someone is on public assistance, whether it be Food-Stamps, SSI, Welfare etc. they should not be permitted to bring more kids into the world. It seems to go unnoticed when these moms who are the “PROFESSIONAL COLLECTORS”, spit out a kid every few years and collect more and more benefits. But when OCTO-MOM spit out EIGHT in one fell swoop, while on Public assistance, lots of people have FINALLY sat up and took notice of what I have been saying all along !!!! IF YOU CAN’T PROVIDE FOR THE ONES YOU ALREADY HAVE, STOP MAKING MORE !!!!!

    Oh yah, and I think the IDIOT DOCTOR who performed her invitro should be the one to support those kids, NOT THE TAXPAYERS !!!

  73. 73 tcupchain Mar 27th, 2009 at 9:41 am

    I’ve read all these opinions, but haven’t seen a word about this. Earlier on, Nadya stated that she couldn’t bear to allow destroying any of the eggs (fetuses) because they were her children. That sounds like a great pro-life stance. So where are all the pro-life advocates? Why aren’t the Christian, pro-life organizations digging into their pockets to help support and protect these babies? If every baby is truly worth saving, then why not these? Help me understand this.

  74. 74 Beige Mar 27th, 2009 at 10:05 am

    tcupchain, are we sure they AREN’T stepping up? She has to be getting the money for those expensive shopping trips from somewhere. No doubt some of it is taxpayer-sponsored, which is where a lot of outrage comes from, but it can’t ALL be accounted for that way.

  75. 75 Jmesa77 Apr 8th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    I think she is just looking for her 15 mins of fam and any fortune she can get from anyone. And people are falling for it. She already had 6 kids all under 7 years old, and she wanted another baby! She is single people, she doesnt work, i dont think there is a way she would have been able to fully support even the first 6 because she is a single, unemployed parent! She deff is not thinking straight, but everyone is seeing sympathy for her and giving her money. She is gettin so much money and support from crazed fans because she ‘needs’ the support, only she isn’t using the money on the kids, she is using it for her selfish wants, like plastic surgery and clothes and things for her. Apparently she doesnt even spend as much time as she should be with her kids. She may care for the kids, but not like she should be as a mom. It is almost like she is using the kids to get money any way possible to turn around and support her habits, no offense but a mom should be putting her kids first regardless of how many she has. I think she is putting herself first and needs to start thinking about the kids, they need a mom, its not the responsiblity of the nurses that come in and out, its hers and i think its time she grew up and realized what she needs to do. I dont support her at all, i wouldnt give her anything because i dont feel she deserves it, that is my point of view.

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