I thought Tina Fey was largely overrated as Sarah Palin last fall, but she did get off the best line of the election: “I believe marriage is a sacred institution between two unwilling teenagers.”
In reference, of course, to the planned nuptials between then-pregnant teenage daughter Bristol Palin and her boyfriend/baby daddy Levi Johnston. But that was before Grandma Johnston got busted for meth and everything went to hell.
The AP is now reporting that the adolescent parents called off their engagement “a while ago.” But Star Magazine can do the AP one better:
Now’s Levi’s sister, Mercede is telling all exclusively to Star and the picture she paints of life in Wasilla, Alaska is not a pretty one. Bristol, 18, has virtually cut Levi out of the life of their two-month-old son Tripp.
“Levi tries to visit Tripp every single day, but Bristol makes it nearly impossible. She tells him he can’t take the baby to our house because she doesn’t want him around ‘white trash’!” Bristol won’t even allow him to watch the baby for a few hours — unless he’s babysitting!
The worst part, Mercede continues, is that the former vice presidential candidate supports Bristol’s treatment of Levi, 19. “I used to love Sarah,” Mercede says sadly. “But I’ve lost lots of respect for her.”
Now I have a healthy amount of skepticism when it comes to Star, but getting Levi’s sister on the record? Kind of a scoop.
But on to my point: Is it too much to expect an unwed momma still in high school not to throw around the WT insults? Does she really want to go there? I didn’t realize the governor’s mansion was made of glass.
(Thanks to all0new0rd for the tip!)
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She’s calling his family white trash when she defines it. Classic.
I hadn’t thought of it that way. Pretty damn ironic.
Ohhhhh, this is pitiful and sad. “He done give me a BAYbee!”
Well I take the devils advocate here.
If Levi is living with his mother and she has been involved in drug trafficing there would be no way in hell I would let Levi take the kid back to that house.
In regards to the white trash statement…well that seems like the whole pot and kettle thing now don’t it
. . . No, I won’t go there. I won’t do it. Right! Not doing it. This is me . . . walking away. Which is great ’cause my boss came back and I don’t have time to write a novel.
Meh- no surprises here. Teenage kids dealing with one of the toughest things to deal with (young pregancy and raising a child) then add the white hot glare of the political limelight. What do think would happen?
As for white trash- you all are white trash to me regardless of what you look like.
I let my man take ALL my youngins fer’a visit to grandmethma’s all the time.
Ain’t nothin never happened b’fore.
They had to go to the Star for this? Why didn’t they just ask Andrew Sullivan? I mean he seems to know an awful lot about the Palin women’s vaginae (apparently correct pluralization provided by Firefox), and personal relationships. I mean despite the fact that he’s… well you know, like THAT.
White trash is your whole family (includes your illigetiment grand baby) living of the Alaskan government. Thank God the people of Alaska don’t have to take care of Levi. I don’t think it ever was a relationship anyway.
Mercede?
When you name your kid after a car … at least spell it right.
C’mon, she’s a friggin’ kid, for Christ’s sake. She ddidn’t ask for this publicity.
If she tries to parlay all this attention into a reality show, I’ll be happy to put crosshairs on her forehead. But the same media who protected Chelsea, Amy, et al, should back off.
When someone other than Star comes out with something a little more concrete, maybe I’ll believe any of that is more than the bitter rantings of a fame whore with a drug mom… sounds like the guilty party lying in a police report — “Honestly, officers, she fell down and wrapped my hands around her neck and wouldn’t let go!”
And I agree, Bruce… I thought maybe it was a typo at first.
Well let’s face it. Selling drugs while your son’s mother-in-law is running for VP is a pretty white trash thing to do.
Is ‘Black Trash’ or ‘Yellow Trash’ an acceptable word? Why do white people not have an anti-defamation league? Heh heh.
She is a teenager who made a good decision to not marry someone just because he knocked her up. I’ve had friends who did that, and it didn’t work out well. And yeah, it is kind of trashy to get pregnant so young but at least Sarah, as far as we know, isn’t dealing Oxycontin.
And I think I’m with Jrod on Bristol Palin, assuming she is officially 18 or older.
Somehow I don’t think the source is quite reliable. And who hasn’t called someone a name when you are in a fight? Unfortunately, the name really does seem to fit. Mother a dealer, check. Daughter a fame whore, check. Son a teenage babydaddy, check. Seems like all the bases are covered. If it looks like trash and smells like trash, chances are it is.
Dealing drugs ain’t so bad. Just ask the President of the United States.
Boy, that picture of them kind of says it all. Probably one of the unhappiest couples I’ve ever seen. Also, while I think all of the people invovled in this are white trash, I wouldn’t let my kid go to a house where the grandma is a meth dealer, either.
Yeah… the white trash thing was a little ironic, but I wouldn’t let my baby near a meth dealer/user whatever she did.
Where do they get these names, Trig, Tripp, Track, etc. Who’s the one who is on drugs here?
He is the father and he has the right to see his child , unless the court thinks otherwise. She was the one that sleep with him , so what does this says about her?!!!
“As for white trash- you all are white trash to me regardless of what you look like.”
Mrs. Obama, that’s not very nice.
Who’s ever heard of a teen relationship going sour after the baby arrives? Like, that never happens!
Of course the governor’s mansion is made of glass. How else could you see Russia?
Whachootalkinbout Beige?
I wonder if Mercede’s Mom ever sold Obama some coke?
LOL chronic.. what i was thinking too! i heard levi said to some news reporter yesterday that they broke up “a while ago” which is sad because their son is so young. but really, not like any of us expected them to be in this for the long run. bristol doesn’t need this levi kid anyway, as long as he sends the child support checks, she’s good.
I know you’re kidding but all the “white” slurs I’ve heard are a joke. “White trash”, “cracker”, “honky”, “redneck”, “hillbilly”. Okay, that last I’m not so sure about but look at the rest of those. I’ve never heard a white slur with the visceral impact that can be had with “c**t”, “n****r”, “s**c”, “k**e”. I had to go so far as to censor those.
I never understood the expression “white trash”…Why not just say “trash”? Why “white”? I think it’s racist to all other races/ethnicities…
If he sends them, katie, if he sends them
Rocko–However, isn’t it true that society has made you feel the need to censor the other slurs? Because it is society who has pressed us to the point where racism against whites is not only almost completely ignored, but called “reverse racism” when it is not. If we are fair and honest with ourselves, isn’t the only reason “cracker” is not as offensive as “ngger” is that whites laugh it off and blacks get offended–when it comes from non-blacks? How can a word be considered offensive when a group will use it among themselves without a second thought, but drag an outsider into court for using it? Fortunate Son is right, and you just proved his point–whites are the only ones it’s okay to abuse because society is thoroughly prejudiced against whites. That’s why an over-18 white male is the most prejudiced against person in our society today. I’ve known guys who have been point-blank discriminated against on a job because they were told, “You’re good, but we’re looking for a woman.” “We’d hire you, but you aren’t black.”
And I don’t mean any of this in a racist way–I’m not trying to say it’s okay to be prejudiced against non-white males, what I’m saying is it’s wrong to slur or discriminate anyone for any physical reason. I myself don’t pay any more attention to skin colors than I do to hair colors, but it is true that extremely influential ethnic people not only want to keep racism (and “sexism”) at its present level, but escalate it because they benefit from racial tension. Actually, I don’t even
I’m sorry if this isn’t as coherant as I’d like it to be, but I’m having to power-type because I’m sneaking Deceiver at work O: ) It’s just that racism–against ALL people, including whites!–is one of my issues I get feisty about, just like female-on-male domestic abuse.
I do notice race, just as I notice height, hairstyle, etc. I don’t think that’s racist. What’s racist is making judgments about the other person’s worth based on their race. If I’m describing someone to a third party, I’m not going to go out of my way to avoid mentioning that the 6′, heavyset guy is black, or that the lady who actually owns the company is Asian. It’s part of who people are. If someone is offended that a description includes race, I have to wonder why it’s offensive to be black or white or Latino. I mean, I’m white (boy, am I EVER) but unless someone assumes that I’m inbred or illiterate (or most usually, racist) BECAUSE I’m white, well, they can pretty much suck it.
Maybe I just think that b/c I’m a hillbilly.
Actually Rocko, “white trash” historically has been a potent slur. The fact that we laugh at the term now does not erase the negative history it carries, any more than Chris Rock using the “N” word negates its connotation. We’re simply further removed from the origin & common negative usage of WT than we are from N. Plus, I suspect that those in any majority find it easier to laugh at derisive terms than those in the minority (but that’s fodder for a different discussion).
Take a look at the use of “WT” in Harper Lee’s To Kill a Mockingbird. The term is very prominent in that novel. WT is placed deliberately next to the N word, repeatedly. Lee is very aware of the concept of WT and her correlating it to N is purposeful because she knew that WT would still twinge tender nerves amongst any white readers.
For those not familiar with the book or the plot, Mockingbird takes place in a depression era rural area of segregated Alabama. A black man is accused, nearly lynched, tried, found guilty, and then murdered for the rape of a white woman. The black man is absolutely innocent of the rape and everyone in town knows this, whether they acknowledge it or not. The accusers are white, poor, and stupid, with a grudge on their shoulders for being seen by the townsfolk as worth less than even “N’s”. There are other subplots, but the main theme of the novel is prejudice in ALL its guises. The movie is good but the book is excellent and well worth reading for anyone who missed it in school.
Anyway, my point is that Lee didn’t use WT because it was funny. She used it because it meant something dark to a large portion of the US. She wrote the book in 1960, many people who took insult at WT are still alive today.
I don’t mean to give you a speech Rocko, it’s just that you’ve always been open to penetrating discussion here. It’s food for thought, take from it what you will.
Minnow, that’s a brilliant observation. IIRC, Lee even had a black character (I think her name was Lula) throw a wobbly b/c Calpurnia brought the white kids to a black church. It seemed to be a way of showing that nobody is totally free of prejudice.
Beige wrote: “If I’m describing someone to a third party, I’m not going to go out of my way to avoid mentioning that the 6′, heavyset guy is black… It’s part of who people are.”
I ran into this exact problem yesterday!
I was in a school cafeteria full of teachers and parents, looking for a teacher I had never met. So I asked another teacher “which one is Mrs. X?”
She says to me “Uhmmm, I don’t see her now. Look for the lady who…”
And then she stops, thinks, looks around, and gets all close up on my shoulder to whisper:
“She’s really tall and kinda, well, big? She usually wears plaid buttondown shirts. She’s got longish, uhmmm… blondish, reddish hair and uhmmm… lots’a freckles. But she’s really nice and you’ll like her.”
Okay. 45 minutes later and I’m still trying to track down a Lane Bryant version of Ellie Mae Clampett.
Know what would’a been helpful?
Maybe the fact that she’s the only black teacher in the math department.
If I’d known that, I wouldn’t have stupidly asked Mrs. X if she could point out Mrs. X.
DUH!!!!!!
I hate that in our present society, we’re supposed to feel guilty if we notice that someone is “differently raced” from ourselves. I don’t hesitate to say, “Oh, she’s the redheaded girl in my class,” or “she’s really tall and wear glasses,” but I feel the need to check myself to say, “She’s black.” So it just goes back to my previous statement about society conditioning us to be racist where we aren’t naturally.
And Minnow, your analysis was extremely intelligent and well-done. Super props!
Great observations. I used to feel strange describing someone by saying, “Oh, she’s the black/Asian/whatever…” until I just decided, no, I’m not going to censor myself as though I were being racist or otherwise insensitive, because I am not.
No one has ever hesitated to point me out as being “the Spanish girl”,”the curly haired girl”, “the short girl”, or even (gasp) “the white girl”. I am not offended by it. Those are adjectives that describe who I am (even if Spanish is highly generic, but I don’t expect anyone to automatically pick out that I am Cuban either), and I am not ashamed of who I am. In college, when I worked in a predominantly black day care center, all the parents called me “the white girl” until they learned my name. If I were offended by a description of myself, it would imply that I am ashamed, apologetic, or feel that I am somehow inferior. I would imagine that any rational human being would know better than to take offense at being described as they are.
So, if anyone has an issue with my saying, “So and so is the black lady in the red dress,” they can suck it, honestly. I think Beige and Minnow said it best, but if someone is going to have a fit over a descriptive word, then they aren’t really living on the same plane of existence as the rest of the world.
I am not a Palin fan but I fail to see why the Palins could be considered “white trash” since they are basically an average American family. I also don’t trust the Star or what a teenage girl claims that another teenage girl said especially because Bristol Palin appears to be a level headed kid who made a mistake. At any rate they are young and next week they may be love again and the rest of us should just let them be.
It’s funny how when one wants to sleep with another, they are the greatest person in the world. So funny, so witty, so smart, so hawt.
Then they burp and fart a few times and scratch where they shouldn’t and embarrass you on the world stage by generally acting like a monosyllabic troglodyte and their family done goes and gets all arrested and stuff for drugs, and suddenly they’re white trash.
Fickle, fickle youth.
(in all seriousness…if the drug stuff is true then there’s no way in the world I’d let my child go over there or be involved with them…but wouldn’t Bristol have had suspiscions when they were sleeping together?)
I always heard that a slut sleeps with anyone and a bitch sleeps with anyone but you…
Hey, I’ll settle for the Palin family staying up there “in view of Canada” and getting the hell back out of the public spotlight. When Bristol successfully passes her GED classes (yes, she dropped out of HS attendence) I’ll let her have a tic-tac to stand on. Using Bristol as a speaking point in the last campaign ruined all respect I had for the family. (Perhaps it’s because my mother taught me not to flaunt my problems.) I’m still not sure why she left high school. The Palins too broke to pony up for childcare not catered free by taxpayer money?
I second Snoop-Diggity-DANG-Dawg.
She bucked her family’s extreme values for what was best for her child, and to repeat everyone who said it, I wouldn’t drop off MY baby at a house where Grandma did/had drugs. I’m also not going to assume the sister is telling the truth (or lying, either), because when families get in arguments about who gets what baby, things get ugly and people have this tendency to say things that aren’t true or they don’t mean when they’re pissed.
I’m also not going to hold her to her mother’s standards, because she’s obviously not her mother. Her decisions as an adult – an adult, who acts independently of her parents – reflect that.
I don’t care to hear it when the nation wants to tear apart the children of national figures that they don’t like. Ridicule Palin (or Obama) if you don’t like them, but Sasha and Bristol aren’t trying to change legislation.
ah i knew simon wasnt going to be the one who did this story
Ah yeah, Ima gonna hit that!