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		<title>By: Nati</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Viagra can kill you. Remember if you get an erection that lasts more than 4 hours see your Dr. immediately or it may fall off&quot;

We&#039;ll Superglue it back on. No one will be able to tell the difference. Ah...and you thought glue was just for sniffing. 

P.S. Sorry, I usually don&#039;t post anything like that...but I was extremely bored. Sometimes I get bored, you know :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Viagra can kill you. Remember if you get an erection that lasts more than 4 hours see your Dr. immediately or it may fall off&#8221;</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll Superglue it back on. No one will be able to tell the difference. Ah&#8230;and you thought glue was just for sniffing. </p>
<p>P.S. Sorry, I usually don&#8217;t post anything like that&#8230;but I was extremely bored. Sometimes I get bored, you know <img src='http://deceiver.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Simon Scowl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Scowl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t understand why I try and talk to you when you try to make everything I ever say sound ridiculous compared to the wisdom contained in yours. I give up. You win with everything, forever.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Oh well. Can&#039;t say I didn&#039;t try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don’t understand why I try and talk to you when you try to make everything I ever say sound ridiculous compared to the wisdom contained in yours. I give up. You win with everything, forever.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh well. Can&#8217;t say I didn&#8217;t try.</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmm...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hmmm...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 04:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy Camper,

&quot;My son has a better chance with Obama and progressives, than he does with the Bushes and the conservatives&quot;

Obama isn&#039;t associated with progressives, he&#039;s associated with liberals. Progressive minded people can be and are in both parties, but just often in different manners.

&quot;The Oklahoma State Legistature voted down an amendment that required that no Oklahoma insurance carrier can provide coverage for erectile dysfunction unless they also provided coverage for autism spectrum disorder. The amendment was killed in a strict party-line vote. R-59 D-37&quot;

What about the amendment a year earlier that would have required autism coverage, but didn&#039;t even associate with erectile dysfunction and ended up making it past the representatives and into the senate? It sounds like there&#039;s more going on than &quot;Republicans hate the handicapped.&quot; That is to say, it could very well be somewhat related to business practices. Forcing every insurer in the state to have the same coverage over a certain area doesn&#039;t totally affect business practices since everybody would have to. This bill instead linked autism to something completely unrelated which, although gave a little bit of choice to the insurers, it&#039;s a bound choice. That is to say, they can choose between raising their costs which would put off many of their current customers with neither problem or they could deny both which would put off their current customers with ED or autism. What&#039;s more, many of the people who currently have autism would likely be denied coverage if seeking insurance because it&#039;s already known that they have it and thus the company knows it&#039;ll lose money and consequently, they&#039;ll be out of all insurance because of this bill (probably not a good thing). It would only really be good for those who seek family coverage under the thought that a child in the future may have autism, but the families that currently have autism would still have to seek out coverage that wouldn&#039;t include autism anyway and likely at a higher cost for the coverage given due to the change in companies if the current plan is company based. Of course, a new law forcing autism coverage to extend only to those not yet born when the law was passed could help alleviate some of those problems, of course, but that&#039;s not what this bill would have done.

&quot;Autism isn’t a mental illness. It’s brain damage&quot;

Actually, it is a mental illness. It&#039;s a developmental disorder, and those fall under the category of mental illness. It&#039;s certainly not brain damage in any sense of the word since brain damage must be acquired.

&quot;The rate of Autism has gone up significantly in the last 10 years. Parents will out live these kids and then what? Oh, I know big institutions that chain people to walls and throw food at them. Like they did in the 18th and early 19th centurties&quot;

I think you mean that the children will outlive the parents because otherwise the parents can still take care of the children if they&#039;re the ones living longer especially since autism is one of those conditions that maintains a normal life expectancy. Though maybe you were hinting at something else that I didn&#039;t quite catch (it&#039;s late). Anyway, it depends on what you mean by &#039;big institutions that chain people to walls and throw food at them.&#039; That is to say, this was common practice throughout most of history (rather than just the 1700&#039;s and 1800&#039;s) not necessarily for the mentally ill, but rather for criminals which could indeed include criminals who also happened to be mentally ill. Further, such institutions weren&#039;t &quot;big institutions&quot; so much as &quot;huge institutions.&quot; That is to say, it wasn&#039;t like there was some company out and about who&#039;s job was to round these people up in most cases (though that&#039;s not to say that there wasn&#039;t the occasional &#039;here and there&#039; thing going on). It was the national, or at the very least, local government. And there&#039;s not a chance in heck that not limiting the entrepreneurial rights of businesses is going to push the local governments back to similar times. Also, even when the child outlives his or her parents, there are still institutions today that are state or charitably run to take care of such individuals and I can assure you that I haven&#039;t heard of any recently that &quot;chain people to walls and throw food at them. Like they did in the 18th and early 19th centurties&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy Camper,</p>
<p>&#8220;My son has a better chance with Obama and progressives, than he does with the Bushes and the conservatives&#8221;</p>
<p>Obama isn&#8217;t associated with progressives, he&#8217;s associated with liberals. Progressive minded people can be and are in both parties, but just often in different manners.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Oklahoma State Legistature voted down an amendment that required that no Oklahoma insurance carrier can provide coverage for erectile dysfunction unless they also provided coverage for autism spectrum disorder. The amendment was killed in a strict party-line vote. R-59 D-37&#8243;</p>
<p>What about the amendment a year earlier that would have required autism coverage, but didn&#8217;t even associate with erectile dysfunction and ended up making it past the representatives and into the senate? It sounds like there&#8217;s more going on than &#8220;Republicans hate the handicapped.&#8221; That is to say, it could very well be somewhat related to business practices. Forcing every insurer in the state to have the same coverage over a certain area doesn&#8217;t totally affect business practices since everybody would have to. This bill instead linked autism to something completely unrelated which, although gave a little bit of choice to the insurers, it&#8217;s a bound choice. That is to say, they can choose between raising their costs which would put off many of their current customers with neither problem or they could deny both which would put off their current customers with ED or autism. What&#8217;s more, many of the people who currently have autism would likely be denied coverage if seeking insurance because it&#8217;s already known that they have it and thus the company knows it&#8217;ll lose money and consequently, they&#8217;ll be out of all insurance because of this bill (probably not a good thing). It would only really be good for those who seek family coverage under the thought that a child in the future may have autism, but the families that currently have autism would still have to seek out coverage that wouldn&#8217;t include autism anyway and likely at a higher cost for the coverage given due to the change in companies if the current plan is company based. Of course, a new law forcing autism coverage to extend only to those not yet born when the law was passed could help alleviate some of those problems, of course, but that&#8217;s not what this bill would have done.</p>
<p>&#8220;Autism isn’t a mental illness. It’s brain damage&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, it is a mental illness. It&#8217;s a developmental disorder, and those fall under the category of mental illness. It&#8217;s certainly not brain damage in any sense of the word since brain damage must be acquired.</p>
<p>&#8220;The rate of Autism has gone up significantly in the last 10 years. Parents will out live these kids and then what? Oh, I know big institutions that chain people to walls and throw food at them. Like they did in the 18th and early 19th centurties&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you mean that the children will outlive the parents because otherwise the parents can still take care of the children if they&#8217;re the ones living longer especially since autism is one of those conditions that maintains a normal life expectancy. Though maybe you were hinting at something else that I didn&#8217;t quite catch (it&#8217;s late). Anyway, it depends on what you mean by &#8216;big institutions that chain people to walls and throw food at them.&#8217; That is to say, this was common practice throughout most of history (rather than just the 1700&#8217;s and 1800&#8217;s) not necessarily for the mentally ill, but rather for criminals which could indeed include criminals who also happened to be mentally ill. Further, such institutions weren&#8217;t &#8220;big institutions&#8221; so much as &#8220;huge institutions.&#8221; That is to say, it wasn&#8217;t like there was some company out and about who&#8217;s job was to round these people up in most cases (though that&#8217;s not to say that there wasn&#8217;t the occasional &#8216;here and there&#8217; thing going on). It was the national, or at the very least, local government. And there&#8217;s not a chance in heck that not limiting the entrepreneurial rights of businesses is going to push the local governments back to similar times. Also, even when the child outlives his or her parents, there are still institutions today that are state or charitably run to take care of such individuals and I can assure you that I haven&#8217;t heard of any recently that &#8220;chain people to walls and throw food at them. Like they did in the 18th and early 19th centurties&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 04:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why I try and talk to you when you try to make everything I ever say sound ridiculous compared to the wisdom contained in yours. I give up. You win with everything, forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why I try and talk to you when you try to make everything I ever say sound ridiculous compared to the wisdom contained in yours. I give up. You win with everything, forever.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah there Happy - because if I don&#039;t support FORCING private companies (which are the property of private citizens) to cover a specific disorder then I must support chaining them to walls and throwing food at them.  You must have a jetpack to make that kind of leap in deductive reasoning.

My uncle happens to have been born with a severe mental retardation caused by his oxygen supply being cut off during delivery.  Our family has always made sure he had the best care possible, he lives with his sister, not off in some home chained to a wall for Christ&#039;s sake.  

These people run a business for profit, it&#039;s as simple as that.  My father at various times worked as a claims manager at 2 of the 3 largest private insurers in the nation.  He also worked four years as a claims manager for California&#039;s govt. insurance agency - which I honestly don&#039;t think exists anymore, but I don&#039;t live in California.  Now, between private sector and public, you wanna guess which one shafted their patients worse?

The govt. plans made you go to the worst, most run down hospitals, had the highest copays, payed for only the most generic of medicines and treatments (terming the rest &#039;experimental&#039;).  You know why?  Because they aren&#039;t forced to compete.  If enough people get fed up with a private insurer, they can pressure their employer to switch carriers - or simply try to find another employer who has a different carrier.  The market works those things out in the long run.  If a carrier is shafting the mentally disabled, then you need to get it out there for everyone to see and anyone with a conscience will do their best to avoid doing business with them.  Having the government force a private company to change their policies is not the answer - it&#039;s socialism.  It&#039;s actually the textbook definition of socialism, meaning that the government is in the business of running businesses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah there Happy &#8211; because if I don&#8217;t support FORCING private companies (which are the property of private citizens) to cover a specific disorder then I must support chaining them to walls and throwing food at them.  You must have a jetpack to make that kind of leap in deductive reasoning.</p>
<p>My uncle happens to have been born with a severe mental retardation caused by his oxygen supply being cut off during delivery.  Our family has always made sure he had the best care possible, he lives with his sister, not off in some home chained to a wall for Christ&#8217;s sake.  </p>
<p>These people run a business for profit, it&#8217;s as simple as that.  My father at various times worked as a claims manager at 2 of the 3 largest private insurers in the nation.  He also worked four years as a claims manager for California&#8217;s govt. insurance agency &#8211; which I honestly don&#8217;t think exists anymore, but I don&#8217;t live in California.  Now, between private sector and public, you wanna guess which one shafted their patients worse?</p>
<p>The govt. plans made you go to the worst, most run down hospitals, had the highest copays, payed for only the most generic of medicines and treatments (terming the rest &#8216;experimental&#8217;).  You know why?  Because they aren&#8217;t forced to compete.  If enough people get fed up with a private insurer, they can pressure their employer to switch carriers &#8211; or simply try to find another employer who has a different carrier.  The market works those things out in the long run.  If a carrier is shafting the mentally disabled, then you need to get it out there for everyone to see and anyone with a conscience will do their best to avoid doing business with them.  Having the government force a private company to change their policies is not the answer &#8211; it&#8217;s socialism.  It&#8217;s actually the textbook definition of socialism, meaning that the government is in the business of running businesses.</p>
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		<title>By: jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok I don&#039;t know what a converstation is.  I meant conversations.  Now I am as bad as Bush, making up my own words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok I don&#8217;t know what a converstation is.  I meant conversations.  Now I am as bad as Bush, making up my own words.</p>
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		<title>By: jimmy</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2009/03/21/leader-of-free-world-also-funniest-man-alive/comment-page-2/#comment-24865</link>
		<dc:creator>jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ask yourselves how many times in conversation you’ve made a comment like “that is so retarded” or “look at the retard”. Most of you are guilty of it and when you said it most of these people understood what you were saying.&quot;  

Does it make it alright because people make those comments in conversations?  If that is the case what was the big deal with Isaiah Washington?  He used a term (fa**ot) that many people use in converstation.  There are still many people who use the &quot;n&quot; word in converstations.  Does that make it okay to use that word, even if you are black?

I don&#039;t think Obama should be fired over this.  I think the point here is that when someone made a questionable comment (Imas) that offended a group of people there was no excuse for it and no apology was good enough.  The President makes a questionable comment that offended a group of people we are told to lighten up.  It was a joke.  He apologized.  Every one says those things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ask yourselves how many times in conversation you’ve made a comment like “that is so retarded” or “look at the retard”. Most of you are guilty of it and when you said it most of these people understood what you were saying.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Does it make it alright because people make those comments in conversations?  If that is the case what was the big deal with Isaiah Washington?  He used a term (fa**ot) that many people use in converstation.  There are still many people who use the &#8220;n&#8221; word in converstations.  Does that make it okay to use that word, even if you are black?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Obama should be fired over this.  I think the point here is that when someone made a questionable comment (Imas) that offended a group of people there was no excuse for it and no apology was good enough.  The President makes a questionable comment that offended a group of people we are told to lighten up.  It was a joke.  He apologized.  Every one says those things.</p>
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		<title>By: Minnow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Camper, it sounds like the Republicans in your state felt that no insurer should be forced to pay for Viagra just because they cover Autism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Camper, it sounds like the Republicans in your state felt that no insurer should be forced to pay for Viagra just because they cover Autism.</p>
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		<title>By: Happy Camper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Happy Camper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D----Your right about most politicians.  We have one that really wants to help, but the leadership at the state just says NO.  They don&#039;t like kids or women in Ok. 

They made it clear to us our son needed a diagnosis too.  So he was diagnosised with autism. He also has some CP so they threw that in too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D&#8212;-Your right about most politicians.  We have one that really wants to help, but the leadership at the state just says NO.  They don&#8217;t like kids or women in Ok. </p>
<p>They made it clear to us our son needed a diagnosis too.  So he was diagnosised with autism. He also has some CP so they threw that in too.</p>
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		<title>By: Happy Camper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Happy Camper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott F.  So you support big institutions that chain people to walls and throw food at them.  Like they did in the 18th and early 19th centurties. With an attitude like that you could be an Ok. state legislator.

ED and Autism are both diseases. Accidents aren&#039;t related to ED either but insurance companies cover them.  Autism isn&#039;t a mental illness.  It&#039;s brain damage. Im some states they are covered by insurance.  Insurance companies provide coverage in other states for such as PT, OT and speech.  They just don&#039;t have to cover them in OK.  

The rate of Autism has gone up significantly in the last 10 years.  Parents will out live these kids and then what?  Oh, I know big institutions that chain people to walls and throw food at them.  Like they did in the 18th and early 19th centurties.  You better make sure nothing happens to you to damage your brain or you&#039;ll end up changed to the wall next to them.  No one may want to waste money on you either, particularly if your dying because you smoked too much.  That&#039;s where most of the money goes, diseases related to smoking, heart, lung, cancer etc.

BTW, Viagra can kill you.  Remember if you get an erection that lasts more than 4 hours see your Dr. immediately or it may fall off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott F.  So you support big institutions that chain people to walls and throw food at them.  Like they did in the 18th and early 19th centurties. With an attitude like that you could be an Ok. state legislator.</p>
<p>ED and Autism are both diseases. Accidents aren&#8217;t related to ED either but insurance companies cover them.  Autism isn&#8217;t a mental illness.  It&#8217;s brain damage. Im some states they are covered by insurance.  Insurance companies provide coverage in other states for such as PT, OT and speech.  They just don&#8217;t have to cover them in OK.  </p>
<p>The rate of Autism has gone up significantly in the last 10 years.  Parents will out live these kids and then what?  Oh, I know big institutions that chain people to walls and throw food at them.  Like they did in the 18th and early 19th centurties.  You better make sure nothing happens to you to damage your brain or you&#8217;ll end up changed to the wall next to them.  No one may want to waste money on you either, particularly if your dying because you smoked too much.  That&#8217;s where most of the money goes, diseases related to smoking, heart, lung, cancer etc.</p>
<p>BTW, Viagra can kill you.  Remember if you get an erection that lasts more than 4 hours see your Dr. immediately or it may fall off.</p>
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