Fox News commentator and Sarah Palin confidante Greta Van Susteren is plenty pissed about all the discussion of Bristol Palin and her breakup with baby daddy Levi Johnston. However, it was David Letterman’s recent comments that really got her panties in a twist.
You remember that Sarah, one of the deals was one of her children, daughters, a very young girl, was pregnant and was going to get married to the young man that knocked her up. And her name was Bristol, and the kid’s name was Levi Johnston. You remember these kids? Well, they have broken up. Yes. So if you were going to send them a gift…[Laughter]
Then Van Susteren threw a full-on hissy about it during On The Record With Greta:
He took it 15 steps further and picks on the kid. We left the Bush children alone. We left Chelsea Clinton alone. That was always something that people were respectful towards the children, recognizing it was different.
I doubt Chelsea or the Bush twins would agree that they were really left alone, but back up a sec. This is the same Greta Van Susteren who dedicated an entire episode of her television show to interviewing Bristol shortly after she gave birth. In fact, that interview took some heat from right-wing evangelicals who raised holy hell over Bristol’s admittance that “abstinence is unrealistic.”
Just so we’re straight, what Van Susteren is saying is that you should leave the kids out of it unless they bring you big ratings. Everyone clear?
(H/T: Huffington Post via Deceiver reader Troy)
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There once was a teen girl named Palin
Whose abstinence pledge was a-failin’
“Leave the children alone”
“Once my episode’s shown”
“Cause in the Neilson’s, my show sure is trailin’”
Glad to see Letterman’s jokes are so timely. I mean Obama has been president for almost four months, Sarah Palin is no longer running for office, and Bristol Palin isn’t running for anything. Maybe he should go work for SNL or something where actresses still show up dressed like Jessica Rabbit, a cartoon character from 30 f*cking years ago.
I know it must be hard to find something in the new administration to make fun of. They’ve made almost no mistakes at all!
**wanking motion**
I’d write a limerick about Obama’s children, but that would be unconscionable.
But make a Chelsea Clinton joke and you could be the eventual Republican presidential nominee.
Have to agree Pasta, Letterman is a total shill and his show is dead but still hanging on by a thread, someone put it out of its misery along with SNL.
Oh Holly, I didn’t realize you were a youngster until now!
I think maybe you weren’t of newspaper reading age when Chelsea Clinton was in the White House?
Because she was almost completely ignored by the media.
Bush twins actually got a lot of peace until they started drinking, but if attractiveness affects your media play and newspaper sales(and it does, just look at Octomom):
GREATNOT SO GREAT
Jenna Bush > Bristol Palin > Other Bush daughter (forgot, sorry) > Chelsea Clinton.
All limericks with non white subjects are racist. I will decide. -Al Sharpton
Columbia Journalism School on Chelsea Clinton’s Privacy
http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/chelsea_clinton_startled_by_mo.php
I’m actually the same age as both the Bush twins and Chelsea, FS, so I had someone from my age group in the White House for a solid 16 years. Because of that I tended to pay attention whenever they were mentioned. The Bush twins definitely seemed to be more tabloid fodder, but I do remember the outcry when Rush Limbaugh called Chelsea a dog when she was just 13 years old:
Fortunate Son:
I seem to recall Rush Limbaugh’s fun jibe at a 13 year old Chelsea
“Everyone knows the Clintons have a cat. Socks is the White House cat. But did you know there is a White House dog?” Limbaugh said on TV, before holding up a picture of Chelsea.
Sounds pretty respectful. And everyone knows that 13 year olds, regardless of who their parents are, have rock solid self esteem.
As for Greta, she probably thinks of herself as Bristol’s valiant protector.
I remember Chealsea getting a lot of public teasing for being … less than attractive back during the Clinton years.
But this isn’t about parties so much as it is about the fact that Greta is a hypocrite.
Yeah $cientology is a bitch. Makes you say silly things…..
I agree that McCain shouldn’t have said that, and I was glad he apologized. Not sure how it disproves the double standard, though.
I think Chelsea Clinton is hotter than the Bush girls.
Molly Ivins was a nutbag.
Is there a double standard? I don’t think anyone is saying these jokes are in good taste.
Of course not.
No way Pasta! Chelsea got hit with the ugly forest. Not the stick. Not the tree, but the whole forest! At least the Bush girls looks like someone you’d see on Girls Gone Wild. Not that I watch those things….much.
IMHO, Chelsea Clinton was as ugly as homemade sin. That said, it wasn’t for anyone to comment upon in a public, prepared speech. To do so was deplorable and McCain should have been VERY ashamed of himself, not just after the fact but before. It’s one thing for some amateur comedian in a hole-in-the-wall comedy club to go off on a 13-year-old’s shortcomings, and another entirely for a political figure to stoop that low, and I say that as someone who voted McCain for lack of a better option.
I don’t know swede she looks okay to me.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/images/2008/03/25/chelseacreuters.jpeg
Maybe it’s one of those things you just can’t quite put a finger on.
AGAIN with the double-posting, but I have to say how ironic it is for Greta “Hatchet Face” Van Susteren to be involved in this discussion at all.
Maybe the Bush girls were considered “marginally acceptable” for tabloid fodder with their drinking since they were over 18 and at their respective colleges when their dad came to the White House?
I watched Bristol’s interview, and IMO, it didn’t seem like she felt really comfortable doing it, almost as if VanSusteren coerced her into doing it. I feel for the poor girl, she was thrust into the National spotlight, then all but had her mom shout from the rooftops “Yea, my little girl messed up and got knocked up”, her break-up was publicized, and it doesn’t seem like she has a lot of self-confidence to speak up for herself.
Chronic, I remember a political cartoon in a paper depicting a young Chelsea in a less-than-favorable light, it was pretty sad that people felt the need to do that. It’s sad people feel the need to do that to any candidates children, no matter what age they are.
Lots of people talking about a single Rush Limbaugh comment on Chelsea Clinton, a relatively isolated incident after Chelsea was installed in the White House. She didn’t receive another media insult until 2007, when the Media Research Center’s Tim Graham said the Clinton’s were “pimping Chelsea out”, responding in his immediate suspension and a Don Imus-style public discussion on Chelsea’s merits.
Now more topical than ever, with all the public anger towards banking bailouts and bonuses, you never hear about Chelsea Clinton working for a NY Hedge Fund, do you?
By contrast, Briston Palin was smeared within 24 hours of her mom being named the VP candidate.
Should a 17 year old first child should be treated less gingerly than a 13 year old child? Of course, but even tiny Piper Palin didn’t escape the media buzzsaw, while other than a single follow the trick or treater incident, the Obama children have been almost invisible in anything other than staged photo op.
Let’s remember as well that Chelsea went out and got plastic surgery. Just sayin….
Perhaps we’ve all forgotten that Greta was spawned during the OJ trial.
Given that circus, can we really expect any better of her?
And Pasta? Nice shot of Chelsea, but notice the pancake makeup and soft focus?
Fortunate Son wrote:
“GREATNOT SO GREAT
Jenna Bush > Bristol Palin > Other Bush daughter (forgot, sorry) > Chelsea Clinton.”
Are you sure you don’t have the Bush twins confused? Barbara is the stunning brunette. Jenna is the freckled blonde who looks like she should be dating Lil’ Abner.
In that picture, Chelsea kinda reminds me of a younger Eden Reigel.
That’s actually a pretty good pic of Chelsea. I’ve seen gorgeous AND nasty pics of various famous women – even Sarah Jessica Parker has looked good in some pics.
I agree, though – if they are staying out of the public life, not offering to do interviews with their take on their father’s policies…yeah, let them be.
What can I say? I can find something I like about any woman. Except Lady Ga Ga. Woof. You ever see her without those glasses? I bet her parents had to tie a steak around her neck to get the dog to play with her.
This is my fave Deceiver story in a while. I’m not sure why but I think it most likely just boils down to Greta being a $cientologist — and maybe because she’s just taking this “who cares?” stoy a little too seriously. Whatever, it really made me giggle.
Oh, and Chelsea took lots of hits for her looks – Chris Farley even played her, I believe, on SNL. She has also received a lot of tabloid coverage regarding her boyfriends/relationship status. Bush twins took a lot of hits for partying. All of it, from all 3 girls, fall under fairly normal teen/early 20s stuff, IMO – far tamer than Paris Hilton/Lindsay Lohan-type antics. But yeah, coverage of the love lives of high stakes politcal children is nothing new. It’s just that most of them don’t go on pseudo-news programs to discuss them (although Jenna did discuss her wedding; however, there wasn’t really any kind of tabloid aspect to that, more to just pimp her book). I mean, come on – can’t we all admit this is damage control/spin for Palin’s potential run in ‘12? Nothing wrong with that – but let’s just call it what it is.
“Lady” Ga Ga. I bet the tatoo on the boobs says the following:
Inflate scale
normal = 15 psi
large = 25 psi
stage/show size = 75 psi
And the Brits love her. Why???????
I don’t get why people want to make this a party issue. The reason why Bristol Palin’s pregnancy was overnight news is because her mother THE CANDIDATE is adamant that abstinance is the only policy for sex education AND IT IS CLEARLY A FAILURE!
I’m just super proud that Bristol has stuck to her guns and isn’t going to marry a man just because they accidentally made a baby together at a young age. Now THAT would be a true mistake. I hope she and Levi can work out a healthy way to raise their baby and I hope she doesn’t have to go on any more shows. She has enough on her plate and all 3 deserve to be happy and move on with living their lives.
Greta Van Susteren is a Scientologist? Really? I didn’t know that. I thought “journalists” had to be critical thinkers and all that. Huh.
Pasta – she’s a BIG TIME $ciento~
you’ll never see FOX cover stories on the $ubject!
luscious, not true. Every time Fox mentions Tom Cruise, $cientology gets brought up. Greta is not a big player in the Fox News group. For the most part it’s Bill O’Reilly, Glenn Beck, and Neil Cavutu.
Of course, nobody touches $cientolgy, except our friendly deceiver.com
Letterman had a lot of nerve just a few days ago he finally married
the lady he knocked the mother of his son. He has been living out of
wedlock for some 22 years.
Wrong.
yikes, her face!
Simon is right — Sarah Palin has recanted her view that abstinence-only education is best. She just tends to be supported by groups like Focus on the Family that do hold that opinion and lobby for those policies. It’s her choice whether she wants to listen to them, but it seems possible her daughter’s experience might shape her policy making.
I’m glad that I’m not the only one that remembers the hits Chelsea took. I agree, Ani, there was no need for it. I don’t really think it’s fair that politicians’ kids get picked on because of who their parents are, especially if they themselves are not adults. I’m not saying that I have a problem with someone like Letterman doing it, because that’s what he does and people don’t necessarily take him or anyone like him seriously in that way – and if they do, lighten up, Greta. I don’t really care what a comedian says, even if it is in bad taste. But Bristol has taken far less abuse (luckily she’s a cute kid) than Chelsea did from more than just Letterman. In fact, while she has suffered some public teasing, the general public was supportive of her.
I have to exclude Bristol from that list of “untouchable” kids because she was knocked up with the spawn of Alaskan trailer trash, and while Sarah Palin was not an abstinence education only freak, she represented a party where a good number of members are. Furthermore, the media hypocrisy which tried to make Bristol a saint and Jamie Lynn Spears a slut, when in fact, they were teenagers caught up in similar situations, regardless of who their parents were, rather annoyed me. I mean, isn’t it sort of expected for a Spears spawn, but a little more shocking from a potential vice president? It seems weird that Jamie Lynn was judge so harshly and Briston got off pretty easily in the public arena. Ultimately too, teenage pregnancy is a big issue. It’s been a big issue ever since it became inappropriate to impregnate teenagers. Of course people are going to make a big deal out of it one way or another.
Turning this into a party argument is ridiculous in any case. This isn’t so much about picking on the kids of this or that party as it is Greta being a big hypocrite. She was okay with exploiting a situation when it suited her, but Letterman makes a comment that isn’t even as bad as anything any of us have said here, and he’s suddenly some ogre and Greta comes to the rescue?
Shut up, Greta.
Jeez… excuse my horrendous typos throughout that post. It’s well past bed time.
As a parent I firmly believe the media should leave the kids alone. HOWEVER, when they become of their majority and are accountable for their own actions then the media can do whatever. Just because Chelsea did not fit the world’s idea of “beauty” did not mean any fool with a cmaera pointed at them had free rein to crack on her about it. If she were my daughter I’d have turned into an 800 lb, 7 ft tall gorilla and cleaned the floor with whoever commented on her in an unfavorable way.
And Greta needs to get over herself.
“and while Sarah Palin was not an abstinence education only freak, she represented a party where a good number of members are. ”
A good number of Democrats are 9/11 Truthers who believe George Bush was responsible for those attacks, does that mean Obama should be painted as a Truther? I mean, that’s like saying “Ted Bundy was a Democrat, all Democrats must support chopping people up and eating them.” You flat out admit she never personally supported it, then go right on to implying that her personal position has nothing to do with it because of her party affiliation.
There are wackjobs at both ends of the spectrum – trying to lump their ideals in with the moderate majority position is bullshit. I live in the heartland, surrounded by suburban Republicans, and I can honestly say I’ve never even heard the subject mentioned. People are far more concerned about Iran, China, the economic plunge, ect. As far as our children are concerned (and I am a father) we’re a little more worried about the trillions of dollars in debt our kids are gonna have to pay off than whether or not they’ll get sex ed in 6th grade or 8th.
I have never seen FOX “question” $cientology – perhaps they did over Jett Travolta – but I doubt it. (and I don’t really care enough to research it – lol) Getting Greta was a big coup for FOX back in the day, and I’ve read a bunch about it and her $cio demands, but unfortunately I can’t source them. I don’t think it would take much googling to find some articles… but then again, the hands of $cientology are far-reaching and they’re probably coming after me for this post already, before I’ve even submitted it.
And who cares if Letterman didn’t marry his baby mama ’til this past weekend? Better than marrying because of a baby and having another dysfunctional miserable married couple – or more divorces. $0.02
Palin was greatly associated with abstinence-only regardless of a mind-change. (‘Round here that usually equares with being a deceiver, but whatever.) I hope she has changed her views, but that doesn’t negate my point, which was those proclamations – along with her anti-choice stance – were the reason why the Palin pregnancy received the press. Sheesh.
I live in the heartland, too – NW Ohio, very rural county – and the number one concern facing our health dept is the staggering teen pregnancy rate. Sadly, the churches have such a stranglehold that presenting all the options isn’t wholly a possibility. On top of that, a small levy has failed to pass several times in the last 2 to 3 yrs – health dept has had to cut back on so much it’s disgusting.
Yet, this is the crux of the problem Palin (and others) faces. The vocal old guard of the Republican party are not going to want to hear about her changes of heart and moves to the middle; however, they will never win an election if they aren’t willing to bend a little (provided Obama doesn’t end up the abysmal mess Bush did when he left, at least in perception – which is all that really matters in the voting booth).
luscious_t, which part of NW Ohio if you don’t mind me asking. I used to live in Allen County, and it sounds like you described Allen- or one of the counties nearby- dead on. It’s like you can’t even say “sex” without everyone getting offended.
If anyone in this story is a hypocrite, it’s Letterman. He’s in no position to joke about Bristol Palin given he had a child out of wedlock himself. At least Bristol had the excuse of being young and hormonal. David Letterman, not so much. Don’t diss teenage Levi here when a grown man can’t be bothered to marry the woman he’d been shacking up with for 23 years until now. Maybe Little Letterman was getting teased at the fancy pants school.
Actually, as someone who worked in a pregnancy center in rural NW Ohio (Logan County to be exact), the bigger problem than the churches is that there’s nothing to do here but sleep around. And for all the so-called sex ed we have, still seems like no one seems to realize they’re four-times more likely to get an STD than get pregnant.
Also, Luscious, how can you make a claim about FoxNews and in the same sentence say that you haven’t actually got any facts about the claim? I’m sure it will magically render all of my opinions invalid, but I do watch Fox and have seen coverage of Scientology in a not-so-positive light, namely from O’Reilly.
Back to the original post, how hypocritical this is, I’m not sure (Greta’s rampage is about people picking on Bristol, not simply talking about her) but either way the whole Bristol thing really should be a dead issue now. And I’m still curious why the mistakes liberal’s children make aren’t a reflection of their parenting/ideology.
Scott F – Ted Bundy was pretty active in the Republican party: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Bundy for those who care to read. Where I am from is where Ted is from so you meet all sorts of people who knew him back before he was famous for being a prolific serial killer. I used to work with a guy whose cousin married Ted and had his child while he was on death row. “Needless to say, she’s the black sheep of the family.”
And no, I ain’t going there. Not all Republicans are serial killers and vice versa. And, yes, there are nut jobs on all ends of the spectrums, holding the banner for either side.
No, it equates with revising one’s opinion after considering the available facts.
Right back at ya.
Picture. so. frightening. Cannot. type.
Even though I don’t have kids, my feeling is you do the best you can with what you have. Teach them what CAN happen with unprotected sex – and not just babies, but all those wonderful STDs (“That herpes…you carry it around with you forever, like luggage.” – Eddie Murphy).
Make your kids watch the paternity and teenage-mama-wannabe episodes of Maury. Let them see what can happen. Even if the father-to-be promises he’ll help, there’s always a chance he’ll bail. If you can, take them to the store and show them how much a baby costs per week in diapers, formula, etc.
Show them what CAN happen. Then pray like the dickens that your child will listen.
YMMV, natch.
Scott F., I will clarify the point I am making. I was highlighting the fact that not every Republican supports abstinence only education, but those that do, nine times out of ten, are Republican, which is why Bristol’s pregnancy was such juicy media fodder.
Fact is, whether you yourself support it or not, it is a big issue for many people who vote Republican. I lived in Texas for a few years before I left the country, and this was a very big issue there at the time.
I think the abstinence-only angle gets emphasized with a lot of conservatives because we see a complete lack of values being taught in the sex ed courses that DON’T stress abstinence as a possibility. And it bugs me to no end to hear people say that abstinence is impossible or can’t work, because it so totally can, but the key to that approach is…well, not having sex. My first thought on reading the “Abstinence doesn’t work” quote from Bristol Palin was “How would YOU know?”
There was a time when getting pregnant was the worst thing that could happen to a teenager. Now, it’s actually one of the best things, considering the STDs out there. It’s still one of the worst possible settings in which to have a baby, however. Well, outside of being Nadya Suleman, but she’s busily upholstering her own brand-new circle of hell, so never mind.
I went to college in BG, and I know that abstinence was taught quite a bit in Wood County. I use to work for a non-profit in Central Ohio and our city’s teen pregnancy rate was just as high as our high school drop out rate. Mainly because they followed in their mothers footsteps. Generational poverty. No matter how much you tell your kids not to, they will. The good news is that she had the baby and is raising it. Better than doing what a lot of kids around here do and have abortions for birth control.
I don’t mind abstinence being encouraged in sex ed, but I don’t think it can exist effectively as the only sex education. Kids need to know how their bodies work, what birth control options are out there, and how to protect themselves from disease. Let’s face it, while there are people out there that are abstinent before marriage, or at least college, there are plenty that aren’t, and don’t care to be and never will. If they at least have the knowledge on how to protect themselves should they choose to have sex, a lot of problems can be avoided.
My mother and aunt went into marriage not even knowing what sex was. No one had that talk with them. They resents their parents and school for not teaching her anything beyond “girls get periods” and wishes she had gone ahead and had sex before marriage. This sort of hopeless and naive state is harmful as far as I am concerned, and if parents really don’t want their kids to know about anything beyond abstinence, they are doing their children harm. But, that said, they should be able to opt their kids out of sex ed. Sex ed is not there to teach morals. That’s the responsibility of the parents.
I am seriously becoming typo queen.
Boy is this a pissy thread. lol
I’m not going to spend an evening doing research for free – I just happen to admit when I don’t have a source. I’m spending hundreds of thousands on seemingly worthless education ( damn this economy!!) for people to assign me research as it is. I like to come here for some laughs and convo – not a thesis on FOX News – which I also happen to watch – thankyouverymuch for making assumptions about me.
I do, however, have degrees in history, psychology and am completing my grad work in public health, so I’m not a TOTAL moron (a little bit of one maybe, but not a complete one) – and the issue here is fairly relevant to me. So be snarky or whatever, but I’ll gladly discuss the topics whether you disagree or not – you might change my mind — and I’ll totally admit when I’m wrong – like FOX covering $cientology. Maybe they have. Like I stated before, though, I read a bunch of stuff on Greta, her hubby, and $cientology a while ago (I think it was back when Cruise was getting the flak in Germany about filming) and it was very interesting stuff about her involvement and her work. Certainly, had I bookmarked the page or knew it offhand, I would link to it – I’ve done this before in comments – but I don’t have it… nor do I see very many other people sourcing their points and opinions either. How is “I read an article…” any different than you saying, “I saw Bill O’Reilly say…”?
I am in Williams County – and while it is located close enough to BG, I think it’s important to remember it is not nearly as populated, nor is it a “college town.” This can make a huge difference in people’s attitudes, opinions, practices, etc. I also agree that not having much to do is a big piece of the puzzle, especially when the kids don’t seem to be wanted anywhere – “you can’t hang out here,” “no loitering,” etc. I also agree that STDs are also a huge issue, but since Palin isn’t getting press over The Clap, I didn’t bring that up. Regardless, it is a very good point related to the issue of sex education and another huge problem.
And for the record, I don’t promote “screw whomever you want” sex ed, either. -and you won’t predict my voting and TV-viewing patterns, as I abhhor the 2-party system and I’m not into partisan politics. I just call an issue like I see it.
Enjoy your day, all.
Hey- I’ll just add that I was replying to all the comments that referenced my posts generally, so when I’ve combined them, I hope you don’t get upset~
Hey luscious_t, my electrician friend earned over $100,000 last year. And he only went to school for 9 months. Just thought I’d brighten your day.
Gosh, I’m not sure I’ve been embettered as a person taking all the time to read all this . . . I have nothing to say. Except that “Can anyone deny that abstinence IS the only 100% positive way not to get pregnant or contract an STD?”
Also, why does it have to be a mind change or hypocrisy to support abstinence first, protection second? And don’t tell me abstinence isn’t possible because I myself am 100% abstinent. I can’t remember what African country it was–a relatively small one–where the ruler implimented something called the “A-B-C Program” that everyone said would never work. It stood for “Abstain–Be faithful–(wear a) Condom.” The AIDS rate in his country plumeted after that. Gee whiz.
Neither does Sarah Palin.
Well, it’s MY humble opinion that if kids are taught sex-education with abstinance as a focus, they at least need to be taught to stand up for themselves and schools need to help with that because the parents don’t always instill those values. My sex-ed was skewed because I went to a Catholic school and was force-fed the values. We were basically taught “This is how you have sex. You wait until you’re married because it’s what God wants you to do. If someone pressures you, say you’re waiting for marriage!*Happy Dance, Jazz hands* If you have sex before you’re married, you’ll get pregnant and get these nasty STD’s shown in these pictures!”
We learned nothing about the physiological responses, and what those mean, or simply say “Hey, I’m not ready… back off” We were never taught the EMOTIONAL benefits of waiting, or the emotional consequences we risked of caving into pressure. We learned nothing of contraception, either. Not surprising, my school had a higher per capita pregnancy rate than the other schools. To the kids, having sex was rebellious, a way to thumb their noses at the school, and they went into it with no preparation on the consequences.
I don’t know how and where my views on sex came about but they certainly weren’t from the school I went to!
Anyone else think Harvey Dent when looking at her?
Nah, I think “Jaws”. But I’m probably a lot older than you.
I apologize, Luscious — I was just a tad out of it when I read your comment and thought you said “I have never seen Fox” as in period… so it was a mistake on my end. It doesn’t really surprise me that she’s that deep into it — personally, I’ll never stop viewing her as the CNN leftover. However, there are times I have seen that cult, erh, I mean religion
Beyond that, generally, my biggest problem is that it seems like when so-called sex ed comes in, abstinence is just presented as some flippant impossibility so make sure you have a condom. Ani pointed out a problem in both camps — other consequences. Because everyone isn’t religious and/or moral, can we at least present the facts without an agenda? There are enough facts out there about pregnancy and STD scares that it seems like any sensible teenager should be scared out of their skulls to do such stupid things (with Depo shots and their 3% failure rate and condoms and their 15%+ failure rate).
Abstinence-only sex ed is just plain unrealistic. They should be introducing abstinence as one of the possible options, not as the only option available. They should be also providing info about contraception, etc. Relying on parents, hoping that they will explain everything to their children themselves because the schools wouldn’t, is also unrealistic. Some parents are uncomfortable discussing this subject with their kids, others just don’t care to do so. My parents never explained anything to me, neither did my friends’ parents explain anything to them and neither did the school explain anything to us. We had to find out on our own and it wasn’t pretty. Some experiences were just downright disgusting. I wish I had been taught a comprehensive no-nonsense sex ed at my school.
The words I type are showing up on your screens, right?
Simon, I wasn’t talking about Sarah Palin (if that’s what you mean), I was just talking about sex ed in general.
Hmmm Simon sure defends Palin a whole lot!
Simon, I wasn’t talking about Sarah Palin.
Hmmm, people who can’t even bother to come up with a screen name sure attack her a lot!
If you can’t handle urban legends and flat-out falsehoods being corrected, you have my complete lack of sympathy.
Heres Obama’s conundrum on the Ashley Biden cocaine incident.
Any discussion of Ashley Biden’s cocaine use invites comparison of Obama’s usage admitted to in his autobiography. Joe Biden can’t mention it. Barack Obama can’t mention it, and the MSM has almost completely ignored it.
If the Bush daughters snorted coke, it would be front page news. In fact, when a Bush cousin used cocaine, it was front page NYT news, an organization that has yet to even mention “Bidensnort”.