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		<title>By: Everybody Needs to Relax About Obama Bowing to Royalty at Deceiver.com</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2009/04/09/wonkette-responds-to-kowtowgate/comment-page-2/#comment-42223</link>
		<dc:creator>Everybody Needs to Relax About Obama Bowing to Royalty at Deceiver.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] well&#8230; Who cares anyway? You guys are just a bunch of racists. Shut [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Elle</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2009/04/09/wonkette-responds-to-kowtowgate/comment-page-2/#comment-27193</link>
		<dc:creator>Elle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 00:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anytime Beige, anytime :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anytime Beige, anytime <img src='http://deceiver.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Beige</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2009/04/09/wonkette-responds-to-kowtowgate/comment-page-2/#comment-27191</link>
		<dc:creator>Beige</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 23:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elle, I&#039;m originally from north Alabama.  Please be my friend.  Seriously.</description>
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		<title>By: D---</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2009/04/09/wonkette-responds-to-kowtowgate/comment-page-2/#comment-27151</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yikes my post is hacked up....let me clean that up a little

Bowing is not a sign of respect except in Japan were bowing is a general greeting. In most parts of the world it is a sign of subservience, the deeper the bow the lower you are to the person you are bowing to (if that sentence makes sense, ending in a preposition and all). Does the phrase, “All men are created equal”, sound familiar? 

I would like to know how come Obama has not fired the people advising him on gifts and protocol (why gifts?..cause the ones they gave were LAME!)? As I said in a previous post, isn’t it interesting that Hilary Clinton is head of the State Department who should have had people advising the POTUS?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yikes my post is hacked up&#8230;.let me clean that up a little</p>
<p>Bowing is not a sign of respect except in Japan were bowing is a general greeting. In most parts of the world it is a sign of subservience, the deeper the bow the lower you are to the person you are bowing to (if that sentence makes sense, ending in a preposition and all). Does the phrase, “All men are created equal”, sound familiar? </p>
<p>I would like to know how come Obama has not fired the people advising him on gifts and protocol (why gifts?..cause the ones they gave were LAME!)? As I said in a previous post, isn’t it interesting that Hilary Clinton is head of the State Department who should have had people advising the POTUS?</p>
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		<title>By: D---</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2009/04/09/wonkette-responds-to-kowtowgate/comment-page-2/#comment-27150</link>
		<dc:creator>D---</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bowing is not a sign of respect except in Japan were bowing is a general greeting. In most parts of the world it is a sign of subthe middle east it is a sign of subservience, the deeper the bow the lower you are to the person you are bowing to (if that sentence makes sense, ending in a preposition and all). Does the phrase, &quot;All men are created equal&quot;, sound familiar? 

I would like to know how come Obama has not fired the people advising him on gifts and protocol (why gifts?..cause the ones they gave were LAME!)? As I said in a previous post, isn&#039;t it interesting that Hilary Clinton is head of the State Department who should have had people advising the POTUS?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bowing is not a sign of respect except in Japan were bowing is a general greeting. In most parts of the world it is a sign of subthe middle east it is a sign of subservience, the deeper the bow the lower you are to the person you are bowing to (if that sentence makes sense, ending in a preposition and all). Does the phrase, &#8220;All men are created equal&#8221;, sound familiar? </p>
<p>I would like to know how come Obama has not fired the people advising him on gifts and protocol (why gifts?..cause the ones they gave were LAME!)? As I said in a previous post, isn&#8217;t it interesting that Hilary Clinton is head of the State Department who should have had people advising the POTUS?</p>
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		<title>By: Elle</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2009/04/09/wonkette-responds-to-kowtowgate/comment-page-2/#comment-27149</link>
		<dc:creator>Elle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahem, what exactly is wrong with a southern drawl? Or cowboys? Does the fact I live below the Mason-Dixon line and enjoy a good rodeo mean that I am not expected to have a thought-out opinion on matters political?

The symbolism of bowing aside it also displays a shocking level of ignorance about proper protocol and etiquette. This is one of those things that is just not done and there are people on staff to tell him that. It&#039;s like blowing your nose at the dinner table or trying to give the German Chancellor a shoulder rub. This is the third time President Obama has been caught in a embarrassing gaffe. (The previous two offenses: Giving PM Brown a crappy Kmart gift and trying to shake the hand of a marine saluting him.)

And back to what the bow means; We were trying to prove a point 200+ years ago. We were a sovereign nation that did not owe obeisance to any foreign power. The point remains valid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahem, what exactly is wrong with a southern drawl? Or cowboys? Does the fact I live below the Mason-Dixon line and enjoy a good rodeo mean that I am not expected to have a thought-out opinion on matters political?</p>
<p>The symbolism of bowing aside it also displays a shocking level of ignorance about proper protocol and etiquette. This is one of those things that is just not done and there are people on staff to tell him that. It&#8217;s like blowing your nose at the dinner table or trying to give the German Chancellor a shoulder rub. This is the third time President Obama has been caught in a embarrassing gaffe. (The previous two offenses: Giving PM Brown a crappy Kmart gift and trying to shake the hand of a marine saluting him.)</p>
<p>And back to what the bow means; We were trying to prove a point 200+ years ago. We were a sovereign nation that did not owe obeisance to any foreign power. The point remains valid.</p>
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		<title>By: Beige</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2009/04/09/wonkette-responds-to-kowtowgate/comment-page-2/#comment-27141</link>
		<dc:creator>Beige</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kaliska, maybe you don&#039;t need the flame-retardant armor nearly as much as your straw men do.  

This has nothing to do with church/state separation.  It also has nothing to do with communism.  It does have everything to do with violating over 200 years of American protocol, custom and ideology by making a show of obeisance to a foreign king--which, whether you like it or not, flies in the face of the very principles on which this country was founded.  Then the WH chose to lie about it, despite the fact that DEAD PEOPLE can see, from the clip posted above, that he did in fact bow.  

It&#039;s a big deal precisely because he represents us, even those of us who loathe him and did not vote for him.  It&#039;s a big deal because his supporters--shoot, forget that, his fan base--spent the past eight years yammering and harping and obsessing over every foot GWB ever put wrong in his life, and now expect their head-bobbing little sockpuppet here to get a pass, and he&#039;s not going to get one, because it turns out we have longer memories than they thought.  THAT is why it&#039;s a big deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaliska, maybe you don&#8217;t need the flame-retardant armor nearly as much as your straw men do.  </p>
<p>This has nothing to do with church/state separation.  It also has nothing to do with communism.  It does have everything to do with violating over 200 years of American protocol, custom and ideology by making a show of obeisance to a foreign king&#8211;which, whether you like it or not, flies in the face of the very principles on which this country was founded.  Then the WH chose to lie about it, despite the fact that DEAD PEOPLE can see, from the clip posted above, that he did in fact bow.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a big deal precisely because he represents us, even those of us who loathe him and did not vote for him.  It&#8217;s a big deal because his supporters&#8211;shoot, forget that, his fan base&#8211;spent the past eight years yammering and harping and obsessing over every foot GWB ever put wrong in his life, and now expect their head-bobbing little sockpuppet here to get a pass, and he&#8217;s not going to get one, because it turns out we have longer memories than they thought.  THAT is why it&#8217;s a big deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Pastafarian</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2009/04/09/wonkette-responds-to-kowtowgate/comment-page-2/#comment-27137</link>
		<dc:creator>Pastafarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 12:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess if it has to be explained to you, you&#039;re just never gonna get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess if it has to be explained to you, you&#8217;re just never gonna get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Nati</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2009/04/09/wonkette-responds-to-kowtowgate/comment-page-2/#comment-27135</link>
		<dc:creator>Nati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 06:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if it&#039;s no big deal, how come Obama&#039;s administartion won&#039;t admit to that bow then? They could have just said &quot;Yes, he bowed and it&#039;s no big deal&quot;...if it really weren&#039;t that big a deal...or if they thought that it wasn&#039;t that big a deal. But the fact that they are denying that he bowed at all really makes you think...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if it&#8217;s no big deal, how come Obama&#8217;s administartion won&#8217;t admit to that bow then? They could have just said &#8220;Yes, he bowed and it&#8217;s no big deal&#8221;&#8230;if it really weren&#8217;t that big a deal&#8230;or if they thought that it wasn&#8217;t that big a deal. But the fact that they are denying that he bowed at all really makes you think&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kaliska</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2009/04/09/wonkette-responds-to-kowtowgate/comment-page-2/#comment-27132</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaliska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 03:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, and I already have my flame-retardant armor on, WHY is this a big deal again? Everyone seems to be going on about how &quot;Americans don&#039;t bow to royalty&quot; which I can only hear in my head in a cowboy southern drawl. Isn&#039;t it an attitude like that that made the majority of the world sit up and say, &quot;Well now, maybe you aren&#039;t as important as you made us think you were.&quot;

America was founded on a lot of beliefs, many of which have changed over time. Including the fact that most of the founding fathers would be appalled by the lack of separation of church and state (but that&#039;s another argument). But to shake our fists like perpetual adolescents and shriek that &quot;BOWING IS TEH EVIL! I&#039;M GONNA GO CUT MYSELF!!!1&quot; seems a bit foolhardy. 200 years ago, we were trying to prove a point. Today, maybe showing some respect would show that we&#039;ve matured as a culture.

Or, I could be a non-American commie anti-hippie that just doesn&#039;t see what the big damn deal is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, and I already have my flame-retardant armor on, WHY is this a big deal again? Everyone seems to be going on about how &#8220;Americans don&#8217;t bow to royalty&#8221; which I can only hear in my head in a cowboy southern drawl. Isn&#8217;t it an attitude like that that made the majority of the world sit up and say, &#8220;Well now, maybe you aren&#8217;t as important as you made us think you were.&#8221;</p>
<p>America was founded on a lot of beliefs, many of which have changed over time. Including the fact that most of the founding fathers would be appalled by the lack of separation of church and state (but that&#8217;s another argument). But to shake our fists like perpetual adolescents and shriek that &#8220;BOWING IS TEH EVIL! I&#8217;M GONNA GO CUT MYSELF!!!1&#8243; seems a bit foolhardy. 200 years ago, we were trying to prove a point. Today, maybe showing some respect would show that we&#8217;ve matured as a culture.</p>
<p>Or, I could be a non-American commie anti-hippie that just doesn&#8217;t see what the big damn deal is.</p>
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