If you hadn’t heard of Susan Roesgen before Wednesday, join the club. But she’s made a bit of a name for herself since then, hasn’t she? In case you haven’t seen her moment of glory, here it is:
“Lincoln? Who’s that?”
No matter where you fall on the political spectrum — which, these days, doesn’t seem to have much room between “unquestioning Obama supporter” and “threat to national security” — you have to admire Roesgen’s willingness to name names. Her open contempt for FOX News, and anyone who would even admit to ever watching it unironically, is a refreshing change from the usual journalistic facade of impartiality and professionalism.
One interesting coda to Roesgen’s shining triumph, courtesy of our moral and ethical superiors at Gawker. She may not like FOX now, but:
Back in 2005, though, according to a Fox News source, Roesgen really wanted to work for that right-wing conservative network. She sent a tape of her on-air work to Fox’s then-programming chief Kevin Magee in January 2005, and followed up with another reel to Magee’s successor Bill Shine in September 2005. Needless to say, she didn’t get the gig.
Roesgen didn’t respond to an e-mail request for comment, and a CNN spokeswoman said, “I don’t know anything about that.”
Maybe it was the hair? Or the voice? Or…
Update: According to TVNewser, ”So far Roesgen is not talking publicly about the situation. CNN tells us she’s now on a previously-planned vacation.” She certainly deserves one. It’s exhausting, carrying around all those talking points.
*Get it? CNNT? Sorry, I stole that one from Anderson Cooper’s Big Book of Ribald & Risque Party Jokes.
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I can’t see the video. Is it the one where the protester rips her a new one? Man I hope so.
It is the video where the protester rips her a new one. It’s also where she was seen running away and shunning the whole manifestation. Classy. We now know who’s she’s working for…
No wonder CNN has the lowest ratings for cable news. They’re just pissed that Fox news is beating the crap out of them in ratings.
I’m shocked to see someone from CNN so blatantly displaying his or her bias. I always watch CNN so they can report and I can decide. No, wait….
I like the longer version of the video (not posted here) where she asks some guy who is holding a sign with Obama’s head on Hitler’s body why he thinks Obama is a fascist. His response? “Because he is.”
Wow. Why doesn’t she just wrench the child from his arms and beat the kid? Ask a question; browbeat, harangue and shout the guy down when he tries to answer. Then put your own hysterical, paranoid spin on his response. What an unprofessional, raging bag of hormones.
Yeah, it turns out her distaste for comparing the president to Hitler is relatively new. She used to be fine with it.
…and this is how you beat politicos and their mindgames; using simple imagery, asking simple questions and answering simple answers. Let’s all remember it worked for Joe the Plumber.
Bwhahaha! State of Lincoln gets $50 billion dollars out of the stimulus plan.
I wonder how much the State of Jefferson gets.
Doesn’t suprise me.
We had about 600 people at the one I attended.
Out of 600, there was one toothless old guy with walrus eyebrows, walking around in his own personal dust cloud, carrying a “Death to Tirants” poster.
Guess which one the reporters talked too?
Every. Single. Fricken. Time.
God bless Youtube. I really mean that. It is the personification of life in the world of 24/7 global news media. For thousands of years people (especially politicians) have been able to tell one group exactly what they want to hear, then go to another group and spend half the time insulting the first people, then both groups support you without ever figuring out your hypocrisy. That’s basically gone now, unless you’re so unknown that it’s unlikely you’ll influence anything anyways.
Unfortunately that means that politicians now have to be so careful of their words at all times that they’ve gotten worse (or better I guess, depending on how you look at it) about blathering on forever without actually SAYING anything. I realized this power in Youtube when I first saw that video compilation of all the anti-war Democrats prior to the Iraq War talking about how ungodly dangerous Saddam was and that we had to take him out. It’s pretty hard to argue with your own words played back for all to see.
As far as this goes, she’s just lucky that wasn’t me and my daughter. She’s trained to Vulcan neck pinch commies on sight, and no one EVER suspects the innocent looking 3 year old.
Yeah, apparently Roesgen thinks that $50 billion is coming from somebody other than every single taxpayer in the United States.
Simon, you’d be surprised–or maybe you wouldn’t–by how many useful idiots out there think it’s “the government’s” money. As in, “The government needs to fund pedicures for redhaired transgendered single moms or aromatherapy for bipolar, ambisexual, colorblind daycare workers”.
Because the government has its own money, you see; it’s purple with pictures of chickens on it. Totally separate from OUR money.
Believe it or not, CNN used to be a respectable network.
I can’t get over people deriding Fox News and supporting Roesgen. If Fox were as subpar as they insist, Roesgen would have been hired there a LONG time ago. She’s like a Lifetime parody of a reporter. That’s not “sassy” or “feisty”, it’s “Does this tinfoil chapeau give me hat hair?”.
Freak.
IIRC, it was someone from Fox News who said, “Ted Turner is understandably upset, having lost his ratings, his network, and now obviously his mind. We wish him well.” Or words to that effect.
I thought for a minute I was watching a SNL skit………
Ha ha….I love when true colors come to the surface.
Kinda like this classic (only shown on Fox) from Maxine Waters:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUaY3LhJ-IQ
I don’t actually care what liberal reporters/celebrities think of us flyovers. Lord knows I don’t like them. But I do expect them, as in the days of yore, to ACT LIKE they’re professionals, to PRETEND for a few frigging MINUTES that they’re capable of delivering news, NOT EDITORIALS, in a calm and reasoned manner. I don’t give a rat’s hairy butt what Roesgen or any other blowdried bint thinks about anything. She? Is NOT THE NEWS. And I’m tired of her and her amateurish, histrionic cohorts trying so desperately to become the news.
Why was a grassroots movement such a great thing when it helped put Barack Obama into play? Now, all of a sudden, it’s a chill wind a-blowing? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, indeed.
Here’s my view on the teabag protests:
With every single protest, you run the danger of people from radical causes, crazies, people who agree with you but have their pet issue and want the spotlight, people who don’t understand your issue… every single issue and every single protest is going to have crazies hanging out and marring your message.
From what I’ve seen and read, the tea bag protests have been especially hurt by this for a few reasons. I haven’t seen a single consistent message regarding these protests: it seems to be a general anger at ‘government spending’, and it’s drawing all sorts of crazies. I’ve heard plenty of accounts of people reasonably discussing local democracy and media and getting their voice heard in politics. But then you have the people who hear ‘disagree with government’ and show up with signs saying “hang ‘em high” with congress members names on it, or the people who say Obama is a fascist one moment and a socialist the next, or whatever, and I think that they are partly drawn to these protests because they see it as a way to express their anger without a hoot about the messages being sent. Throw in a horrific name and premise (The Boston Tea parties have nothing to do with any of these protests today, and teabagging jokes abound). I haven’t even seen any concrete goals regarding these protests.
That being said, the reporter was being unprofessional and idiotic. Yes, it is your job to show facts, to correct errors, but you wouldn’t even let the dude finish and you were just shamelessly pushing an agenda.
These protests have been hopelessly muddled on both sides.
I also think that its amusing that 4chan’s protests from last year were arguably more successful and well-done. I mean, step up your game.
Oh–and Anderson Cooper, in all likelihood, wrote the book on “teabagging”, plus appendices and illustrations, so that bit with him and Gergen was hardly shocking.
C., I’ve just got two words:
Code.
Pink.
“Believe it or not, CNN used to be a respectable network.”
Yep.
I remember my entire family eating dinner in front of the television for weeks, tuned into the coverage of Gulf War I. War, live. It was such a novelty and absolutely fascinating television. Wolf Blitzer was trapped under a desk as bombs rained down around him, and he kept up a running commentary the entire time. Scud missles, Patriot rockets, all by the eerie green glow of the night vision goggles.
My cousin went into the Marines, right after graduation, largely because of what we saw on CNN that spring.
My dad, a Viet Nam vet, insisted that if they’d had CNN for that war, we’d have won it and gone home in half the time to twice the welcome. His stance was that CNN shining the public spotlight on a war kept it clean, kept the good guys honest and made clear who was cheating.
At the time, nobody could have guessed that the press would defect to the darkside for GWII.
C., the key point to remember is that Tea Party protests have exposed the fact that FoxNews has totally infiltrated CNN and MSNBC. People like Anderson Cooper and Roesgen and the the whole team on MSBNC are clearly double agents who are deliberately trying to make CNN and MSNBC and the NY Times look amazingly stupid and thereby drive their ratings and circulation into the cellar.
That way Murdoch can buy them up cheap.
What amazes me is that the shareholders are letting those double agents completely destory their reputation and will soon see them all declaring bankruptcy.
Most of that stimulus money will only go to Chicago, not the rest of the state. Let that dumb bitch do some investigative reporting there. She’ll end up with some concrete shoes and a nice underwater view of Lake Michigan. Of course, if that happens, the Democratic Party there will still let her vote.
Wow… Lots of Obama hate here. Hopefully, this won’t fall on deaf ears.
First, you should show the full video, now the edited version. The full video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2baxw_YScxc&feature=related
Her interview with the first knucklehead provides proper context for her frustration (whether you agree with her reaction or not). There’s a good reason Fox and other people don’t show the first interview she does. Because it makes these people look like the fools they are.
As for her “having no problem” with people comparing Bush to Hitler, the video Simon posts proves his point perfectly. Well, except that it doesn’t. Sue wasn’t in front of that guy to interview him and the crowd at the “tea parties” were actively shouting and insulting Sue as well as protesting (telling her to shut up, etc.). Different enough scenarios that I don’t find this to be a proper comparison, but I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree on that one (unless there’s more video that I missed).
“But I do expect them, as in the days of yore, to ACT LIKE they’re professionals, to PRETEND for a few frigging MINUTES that they’re capable of delivering news, NOT EDITORIALS, in a calm and reasoned manner.” -Beige
If you’re sincere with that sentiment, I’m very curious about your opinion of FOX news. I take it that you’re just as upset with that network, yes? If so, where do you get your news? BBC? Guardian UK? Free Republic? NRO?
“It is the video where the protester rips her a new one. It’s also where she was seen running away and shunning the whole manifestation. Classy.” -Toubrouk
Are we talking about the same video here? How in the world did the protester “rip her a new one”? She asked the first guy why he thought Obama was Fascist. His response? “Because he is!” She even gave him another chance. Again, he had nothing more than “because he is.”
When she talks to the man using his baby as a prop, he starts rambling about Lincoln and going off on a tangent about liberty. She posits how his state will be receiving billions in aid (hence, making their taxation without representation argument complete bullsh*t), and his response? “Ma’am, ma’am, ma’am, I…I…I…” until another protester comes along to break up the interview and save the guy from further embarrassment. The crowd’s anger was in part directed at her and her network, and it was clear the protesters had no idea what they were talking about. There was no more need to stick around, so she threw it back to the studio. She didn’t “run away” in the slightest.
In any case, I was at one of the protests myself. As I strolled asked around, I repeatedly heard the same thing “No taxation without representation” (even though they DO have representation… their guy just lost in November), and “party like it’s 1773″ (even though the scenario in 1773 was a completely different and doesn’t apply to today). It was a total joke.
Bottom line- Should Sue have controlled her frustration better? Sure. But lets not pretend that these people were anything more than what they really were… angry, bitter, sore losers from the 2008 election who can’t deal.
C – from what I can tell, the only people referring to the protests as “teabagging” are the people who oppose them and want them to be called that so they can make snotty remarks. Not saying that’s you, just saying that maybe you didn’t know that.
Simon, Code Pink is hugely reviled by EVERYONE. It is a completely bipartisan effort to think Code Pink are a bunch of morons. There was a piece on Jezebel a few weeks ago about this, actually.
Tal, there’s definitely been some right wing signs and cries of the protest of “Teabag Obama!” or “Teabag the White House… before they come and teabag YOU.” I mean, I’d totally be down with spending some quality time with Rahm but I don’t think that’s quite what they meant. Also, the new anti-gay-marriage initiative is called 2M4M – which translate into ‘two men looking for a third male partner’ in online sex-seeking speak. The right wing just seems like they need to sit down for a few hours with urban dictionary.
And yet you assert that these protests are somehow uniquely disturbing.
Whereas the other side needs to sit down with some Emily Post.
Remember how I said there didn’t seem to be much room between “unquestioning Obama supporter” and “threat to national security”? Wherever would I get such an idea…
So you think this reporter had the right to behave that way because of her previous interview, but these people don’t have the right to be frustrated by all this massive government spending that they’re going to end up paying for? That guy was trying to explain a principle handed down from Abraham Lincoln. He was not a kook. And she completely cut him off to spout a bunch of talking points. She was there to interview these folks, not try to shout them down.
You’re pretty proficient with the Internet for someone who’s blind and deaf.
No Dice, I get my news from a lot of different sources, which I’ve listed on another thread. Fox News is ONE of them, but hardly the only one. And yes, I am sincere with that statement. The commentary (as opposed to reportage) on Fox annoys me, what with the yelling back and forth, but one thing that does demonstrate is that opposing views are being presented. Other networks tend to be quieter precisely because they’re lying back in the buckwheat and expecting us to do the same. Not gonna happen.
“…[L}et’s not pretend that these people were anything more than what they really were… angry, bitter, sore losers from the 2008 election who can’t deal.” Well, that’s your snide little take on it, but that doesn’t make it so. These people organized, and they exercised their right to protest, and AFAIK, they did it fairly peaceably, unless I’m missing all the reports of overturned cars and looted storefronts.
Tal, that’s not quite true. Google news search “teabagging”, and you’ll find plenty of news outlets using the term.
Although, that does bring up a good point. They really should have done a better job in their promotion. Since the 1770’s, “teabagging” has taken on an entirely different meaning, and as “C.” mentioned, the irony of the anti-gay marriage movement using the phrase 2M4M is just downright silly, since it’s a phrase popular among gays themselves. They just dropped the ball with that one.
By the way, at the protest I went to, there was one Obama supporter who was positioned at the very end of the block, just past all the other protesters, with a sign that read “Keep tea-bagging in the bedroom, Go Obama!” A surprisingly large number of people driving who saw him honked, gave him a thumbs up while laughing, and otherwise showed support. If you’re going to use a phrase with sexual connotations to describe your movement, don’t be surprised when people make light of it (which can be particularly bad, since ridicule can be extremely effective in getting people to be dismissive of your cause).
If there’d been so much as a single fistfight, it’d have been the top story. “Terrifying Violence at Right-Wing Hatefest.” But it looks like everybody behaved themselves. Well, it wasn’t like a sports team won a big game or something.
So now the Boston Tea Party doesn’t count anymore because some guys like to dip their balls in each other’s mouths? Ludicrous. (Or, if that’s too old-fashioned for you, Ludacris.)
Twenty bucks says she gets her own radio show after this. Any takers?
No Dice,
Although the modern tea parties aren’t the exact same as the Boston tea party, they don’t need to be in order to at least be similar, and similarities can still exist even as the times themselves have changed. For example, a common argument against the tea parties now is that they have the same degree of representation in our government as anybody else. However, that was true back in 1773 as well. True, the systems were different because then there was a constitutional monarchy as opposed to our current democracy, but the colonies had virtual representation just like everywhere else in the empire including the British isles. The problem was where much of the taxation income was going to; private endeavors, “stimulation of the economic systems” by increasing trade via granting money to already wealthy traders, and just plain ‘helping out’ those few who in power. Sound familiar? Another common comment about the current tea parties is that most of the protesters “aren’t being taxed all that much” compared to the higher income groups which most will never be a part of anyway. Back in 1773, Americans were taxed far less than the typical Englishman, but the typical Englishman also had a much higher income than a typical colonist. That apparently didn’t make it any better though that their taxed income was going to areas that didn’t even benefit most of the taxpayers (not that all of it wasn’t, of course, but there was apparently enough to be considered “intolerable”). It could be said then that the Boston tea party wasn’t so much about overcoming a special oppression on the colonists even though the Englishmen might have felt they were just whining about their lot in life (just like how to the modern tea parties claim it to be a phenomenon relating to nothing more than a lost election) as about promoting an ideal of more government accountability to the common people than the amount of accountability at the time whether it be 1773 or 2009. It’s perhaps all the more relevant now, actually, since our current ruler pretended at being in favor of government accountability whereas the monarchy was nice enough to not say they’ll help out only to mock the common people later when complaints come in about the government not abiding by their own professed ideals.
“And yet you assert that these protests are somehow uniquely disturbing.”
As far as I know, Code Pink never called for a ’second shot that would be heard around the world’, never compared paying taxes to the Holocaust, never called for the execution of several members of Congress, or anything similar. There are several photos of protest signs regarding this, I can dig them up if you’d like. I find it extremely disturbing that no one is calling these people out, especially with a string of recent gun violence in the U.S.
“I love my country and I don’t like what’s going on,” [Brian Smith, a marketer from Greenville, S.C., who attended the D.C. rally while in town on business] said. “Government—to be honest with you, and this will probably be misquoted, but on 9/11, I think they hit the wrong building. They should have gone into the Capitol building, hit out, knocked out both sides of the aisle, we’d start from scratch, we’d be better off today.” I pointed out that “they” did try to hit the Capitol. “Yeah, I know, they missed,” he said. “The wrong sequence. If someone had to go, it should have been the Capitol building. On that day I felt differently, but today that’s the way I feel.”
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I fully believe that these people are a crazed fringe of the tea party movement. HOWEVER, I also think that these people should be loudly called out by the right wing, and instead all I see is denial. It’s worrying. Just like when people were screaming “Terrorist” or “Kill him!” during Palin rallies – these fringe lunatics need to be noticed and crushed, not given safe havens.
I’ll take that bet Vagrant. Does it count if it’s on Air America? Because, well…
“I fully believe that these people are a crazed fringe of the tea party movement.”
What exactly would you call the ORIGINAL ‘teaparty movement’? For Christ’s sake people, our forefathers started blowing people away because someone put a few cents worth of tax on their breakfast beverage! Could you imagine the reaction if you transported a few of them to our time? A time when we tax virtually everything under the sun, including things they never would have dreamed of. Know what we would call the Stamp Act now? A notary public!
Know how people throw the word ’serf’ around like it’s synonymous with being oppressed? Serfs generally had to give their lord 10-25% of their yearly production. Well, fantastic, I am officially worse off than a serf.
Frankly, if we’re being really honest about our roots as a nation, there is absolutely nothing anti-American about the idea of violent revolution. We were not only founded by a revolution, but our founding fathers specifically gave us the Second Amendment just in case we had to start from scratch again. Do I think we’re anywhere near that point? No. I don’t think any sane person does either.
Sane people don’t take up arms against the most mighty military on the planet because they’re pissed about their taxes. That is, unless they’re our founding fathers. I guess that makes them ‘fringe lunatics’ huh?
“Tal, that’s not quite true. Google news search “teabagging”, and you’ll find plenty of news outlets using the term.”
Yeah. Exactly.
None of this makes any sense to me anyway. I thought descent/speaking truth to power, was the highest form of patriotism.
At least that’s what I was told like, a year or two ago.
I’m sure you have the same concerns about all the people who publicly fantasize about killing George Bush. But for what it’s worth, if anybody said that kind of stuff during these rallies, they were wrong to do so.
That never happened. The Secret Service never found any evidence of it, anyway. It was probably somebody yelling “Tell ‘im.” But even if some nut had yelled that, how is everybody else responsible for it?
“I’m sure you have the same concerns about all the people who publicly fantasize about killing George Bush. But for what it’s worth, if anybody said that kind of stuff during these rallies, they were wrong to do so.” You’re right! I absolutely agree!
“That never happened. The Secret Service never found any evidence of it, anyway. It was probably somebody yelling “Tell ‘im.” But even if some nut had yelled that, how is everybody else responsible for it?”
“That never happened. The Secret Service never found any evidence of it, anyway. It was probably somebody yelling “Tell ‘im.” But even if some nut had yelled that, how is everybody else responsible for it?”
There was a YouTube video circulating during the election and at the very least you heard someone screaming “He’s a terrorist!” remember that campaign video where the older lady told McCain that she didn’t trust Obama, because Obama was a terrorist? And McCain stumbled all over himself explaining that that was flat out wrong, and he just looked so damn incedulous? we all need o do that, we can’t deny the fringe element and pretend like it doesnt exist, and if the right wing is attracting these fringe crazies to their protests they have a responsibility to 1) not incite them and 2) clarify that that is not their position.
The entire point in re: Teabagging is that the organizers of these protests DID NOT USE that phrase. These were tea parties. I received a lot of e-mails about these from friends who were planning and attending them, and nowhere was the phrase “teabagging” used. That was the slur brought in and giggled over by CNN and other network anchors, who apparently function at the level of mildly-retarded marmosets.
C.,
I look at all of your posts, and I see that you keep on talking about how the right wing is attracting these fringe elements and how the right wing needs to clarify that it isn’t their position.
Well, I sat through eight years of watching bush being called everything under the sun. Protesters calling him hitler has become so common, it stopped shocking my years ago. There were many instances were people called for violence against him, that it seemed like a regular part of my day. Get up, drink some coffee, get on the internet/tv, see demands for Bush’s execution. Most socialist countries enjoyed these moments. After years of being disrespected up and down(by these same nations), now I get to watch my president “reach out” to these countries, to, “build better relationships.” Are you fucking serious?
Shit, they made movies, songs, and music videos denouncing Bush, and earned considerable amounts of money doing it. Often, these people were referred to as “rebels,” and “unique,” which I thought was funny, because 50-60% of America publicly insulted him anyways.
I must have missed the left wing not clarifying that this wasn’t there stance. Honestly, the previous eight years of hatred(and yes, hatred is a perfect word) towards the right wing makes these recent events look like a joke.
C., I see what you’re saying, but it’s a bit hard even to WANT to disavow anyone when the Dems won’t disavow the likes of Janeane “Dumpy O’Tater” Garofalo, et al. It might be a failing, but it’s an understandable one.
“I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration you’re not patriotic. We should stand up and say, ‘We are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration.’” — Hillary Clinton, current Secretary of State, Jefferson Jackson dinner 2003
Yeah, Pasta, it counts. Anything that keeps my twenty in MY pocket counts. Hell, if no one else is stupid enough to go for it, I’ll found my own radio station and offer her a job. Not that I’m a sore loser or anything.
Well played, Rocko. It does look as though, after eight years of screaming “They’re STIFLING our DISSENT!” from the rooftops with no repercussions, liberals have decided to see to it that dissent does get stifled, once and for all. It’s not like they haven’t had practice.
Oh look at me I used the wrong “dissent”. I just realized that. Whatever.
I’m still waiting for someone to draw comparisons between the Prop 8 protests and the Tea Parties. Any old ladies hit with signs? Hmm? Any churches invaded by people trying to screw in public to make a point? Hmm?
Pasta, if Deceiver started listing all the ways in which the Democratic Party is less a political faction than a ginormous factory producing hypocrisy, this site would need its own Internet. (Yeah, yeah, yeah, the GOP can’t manage to locate its deed to the high ground either, but we’re currently dealing with the Dems, since–as we’re being reminded by their noble, above-it-all representatives daily, they won and we lost.)
Dissent WAS the highest form of patriotism–when it was hatred and vitriol directed at Republican leadership. NOW it’s “hate speech” and “antigovernment”. Speaking truth to power WAS courageous–when it was making obscene jokes about the President’s name and yelling “F**k Bush” at award dinners. Now? It’s “dangerous right-wing extremism” and can ONLY be racially-motivated, as the only conceivable grounds for disagreeing with the High Holy One would be the fact that he’s half-black, which makes you all-cracker. Ninety-six percent of black American voters voted for him, but we’re the racists, despite the fact that WE ARE NOT THE ONES BRINGING UP HIS RACE EVERY TIME WE SNEEZE, MAY GOD IN HEAVEN DELIVER US.
What would have been the response if every straight American had yelled anti-gay slurs at the Prop 8 protesters? Yet the equivalent level of condescension, hatred and arrogance is perfectly acceptable from the media, from the government, and from rank-and-file leftists, as long as it’s directed at conservative protesters–who, as I pointed out above, have been a lot more civilized with their protests. If Robert Davi or Andy Garcia had gone on national TV and remarked that homosexuality was a “neurological issue”, don’t you think there’d be calls for their scalps by morning? Janeane “I don’t have to bathe, I’m a deep thinker” Garofalo says exactly such a vile thing about conservatives, and it goes unchallenged, largely unremarked, despite the fact that last I checked, she’s not a neurologist. She’s really not even amusing, but that’s another thread.
I was raised a firm and true believer in bashing the current administration regardless of its political party affiliation. So I guess I’ll stick with the right wing for the next 4 years, and after that, when a republican president is elected, I’ll ditch y’all and go over to the dark side aka the left wing…again. Now that’s dissent.
ok, the woman is ignorant as well as stupid. She didn’t understand the Lincoln the man was speaking of? A state? A city? A log?
sheesh, where has she been during all the comments of the Lincoln-Obama similarities?
and Roesgen is supposed to be a journalist or reporter, right? so why was she debating with the guy? Let the man speak.
I don’t like it when CNN, Fox or their news reporters warp facts or try to push their own agenda. Let’s try to report facts and be unbiased and let that speak to the people. We common folks aren’t so dumb that we can’t (I hope not anyway) formulate our own opinions based on facts.
I too remember when news was about reporting it, not stating your opinion. CNN use to be a great news network. I remember watching it in College. Now, we call it the Communist News Network as it seems like most news networks, it is slated big time to the left. People go after Fox News Viewers because they hate what they stand for. Yet, how are their ratings compared to other news networks? And here in Ohio, thousands showed up to our rallies and let me tell you, it was not us Right wing nuts and veteran “terrorists” who were there. We had all races and both parties represented. People are getting fed up with the $30 million of our own money used to saving some mouse in California. How about saving some jobs? This is not about the man, it is about government as a whole who is doing this to us. I am tired of being called a racist just because I want to hold on the money that my husband and I work hard making. Try calling him a terrorist after being over in Afghanistam, I dare you.
I think C needs to go back to Moveon.org.
Basically if you talk out against a Dem President then you are in the wrong and obviously evil, but for 8 years denegrating Bush and his administration was looked on with pride and a sense of patritotism by the left leaning party.
Well guess what, Repubs like myself are done with the RNC and are going to make the next 4 years a pain in the ass for the Annoited One. No more mister Nice Guy, the gloves are off.
My husband is a Gulf War I veteran (USMC) and was part of humanitarian aid efforts in Somalia in ‘92 (before the Black Hawk Down stuff). He doesn’t appreciate the “terrorist” crap either. As a peaceful pro-life activist, I don’t either.
Beige – my husband lost some good Ranger brothers over there. A big salute to your husband. I find it almost laughable that those that oppose abortion clinics have no problem bombing them to make their point. Let’s just kill all human beings.
And Aleric – here here! I remember the dems booing Bush during the inauguration. If Republicans had done that, there would have been heck to pay for it. It is amazing the hypocracy that if a Dem does it, it is okay but for someone on the Right to do it, it is a horrible thing.
Nati, I’m with you. Equal opportunity administration hating is where it’s at. It’s too bad crazy-ass people on both extremes feel like they can do whatever to make their point. Sometimes it seems like the people at the fringe loop around and meet in the middle.
What the heck has happened to CNN? I was in Europe during the first Gulf War and stayed up all night watching with friends when the U.S. fought back against Saddam. It was riveting and informative. Seems like they’ve forgotten about the latter in the effort to reproduce the former.
Beige and angry army wife, thank your husbands for their service for me. They rock.
No taxation without representation doesn’t apply here? Just because I have a representative in Congress doesn’t make the bailout ok. There’s a difference between passing zoning laws and taking 4 trillion dollars away from the collective public. If I ask someone to spend money for me wisely in a way that will benefit me and they take my money and give it to someone else, dang straight I’ll be angry. They’re not representing the public good, Congress is granting their connections favors and sucking up to some voters.