The National Enquirer has been right about the John Edwards/Rielle Hunter story so far. Now they say Rielle is demanding that John Edwards submit to a DNA test:
The longtime secret lover of the disgraced 2-time presidential candidate wants definitive proof that Edwards is the father of her 14-month-old love child Frances and is working with a lawyer to take legal action, say sources…
“Rielle – probably naively – now realizes she had held onto a false promise that if she continued to take part in the cover-up John had engineered, they’d be together in the future,” a close source told The ENQUIRER.
“She was willing to protect John for the sake of the child. She agreed to allow a crony of his to claim he was the baby’s father, and she even kept the name of the father blank on the birth certificate.
“But now she can see there’s never going to be a future with John – and she feels he’s lied about his promise to keep Elizabeth from trashing her in the book,” the insider divulged.
“Rielle is so infuriated by his and Elizabeth’s actions that she’s throwing her loyalty to him out of the window!”
The source added: “Rielle wants the paternity of her daughter Frances finally established. It could ruin John for good because even after admitting the affair, he vehemently denied being the father!”
Sounds like the money has run out. Or she’s just sick of hiding and is finally standing up for herself. I suppose the two aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive.
Remember the good ol’ days, when Edwards’ refusal to submit to a paternity test somehow proved he wasn’t really the father? Of course, that was back when there was still some doubt in anyone’s mind.
The fallout from all this will be interesting. Fred Baron, the guy who was paying off Rielle, has died, but he can’t be the only one who has any details about it. And he donated to all sorts of other politicians. Big can o’ worms. Maybe publishing this book wasn’t the best decision by Elizabeth Edwards? Maybe the financial rewards for her family aren’t worth the anthill it’s kicked over?
A lot of people still aren’t happy about being lied to. They’re not happy about the way the media covered up this story until they couldn’t get away with it anymore, or about the lame excuses we were given for it. They’re not happy about how this whole thing reflects on our political culture.
Let’s have the truth.
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This is the funniest title to a post I have seen in ages… and the visuals it provided were scarring, but worth the laugh.
I can’t even say anymore about the monumental amounts of f*ckery involved with these people. It just gets ickier every day.
This is so exciting! John has another child out there. When he dies, that kid will get part of his estate. Then, Rielle can write HER book about her side of the story. Who is going to be first in line to buy the book?
I think I will pass on both books. I prefer to donate my money to more worthy causes and the Edwards/Hunter Camp is not one on my list.
And when I saw that she wanted more DNA from him I thought she wanted to have another love child. You know, cause Johnny loves her and all.
Another love child = more $$$$$$ Kaching!
pssstttttt… Simon…
You must not have received the official memo.
Rielle is now to be referred to as She Who Must Not Be Named.
If this is true, Rielle is a total moron. I mean, I already figured she was something of a moron, but…
I think they should do the DNA test on Maury. “You ARE the father!”
Talk about timing. Get busted for affair…check. Get money from campaign for furniture…check. Published book calls you pathetic…check. Baby Daddy is under investigation for furntire purchase…check. Decided you want DNA for bigger piece of pie…check check.
Uck. Everything these people do leaves a smelly little trail.
Elizabeth’s comments in her new book “Resilience” show that she is not being honest about the fact that her and John’s quest for profit seems to have been much more of a priority in the years leading up to John’s run for the Democratic nomination than his efforts at fighting poverty. In this book Elizabeth states:
(See also link: http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1895709,00.html)
“It didn’t occur to me that at a fancy hotel in New York, where he sat with a potential donor to his antipoverty work, he would be targeted by a woman who would confirm that the man at the table was John Edwards and then would wait for him outside the hotel hours later when he returned from a dinner, wait with the come-on line “You are so hot” and an idea that she should travel with him and make videos.”
Elizabeth knows John met Rielle in early 2006 and that during this time John was in NYC primarily because he was under contract as a consultant with the Fortress Investment Group (the hedge fund which the Edwards have invested a large portion of their wealth). John was surely having a little hedge fund business chat over cocktails when Rielle spotted him. I seriously doubt he was, as Elizabeth describes, “sitting with a potential donor to his antipoverty work”. Elizabeth, Fortress’ headquarters (1345 6th Ave)is only a few short blocks from the Regency Hotel (540 Park Ave) – that hotel is probably one of the closest to it!
See also my comment from the August 4th 2008 “John Edwards: Father of the Year” Thread:
“Rielle described to Extra TV how she met Edwards: “He was in a business meeting in New York, and I was in the same place”. That place, according to a statement she made in a Newsweek article was “a bar” and the time was some point in early 2006. After reading some articles today such as this New York Times article entitled “Edwards Says He Will Drop His Investments In Subprime Lenders” this excerpt is interesting:
“Mr. Edwards’s relationship with Fortress has become a recurring campaign issue. He worked as a consultant to the fund in 2005 and 2006, earning nearly $480,000 in 2006. He has received about $150,000 in campaign contributions from Fortress employees. And after becoming a Fortress consultant he shifted much of his family’s assets into Fortress funds.”
(here’s the link to the article: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/18/us/politics/18edwards.html?n=Top/Reference/Times Topics/Subjects/H/Hurricane Katrina)
From this article and others I’ve gleaned that Edwards consulting contract with Fortress lasted from October 2005 until around December 2006. Edwards in many articles claims that this consulting gig was his main source of income at the time, and that this job would bring him to New York City frequently during this period of time because Fortress is based there. This makes me think that the self-described (from her own website) often in-debt and often broke Rielle was trolling bars where wealthy businessmen and hedge fund types frequent when she met Edwards. It appears likely that the “business meeting” Edwards was having at a bar when he met Rielle was a meeting that involved his fellow Fortress hedge fund workers and it is interesting to note that Fortress is quite a big player in the subprime lending field (see the above NYT article and countless others).”
Let’s also not forget how John’s “Center for Promise and Opportunity” never seemed to be about fighting poverty as he had claimed – donations to this center seemed to merely serve to fund his presidental exploratory committee staff:
(See Link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19370169/)
“The center wasn’t subject to the limits imposed by federal election laws on a presidential exploratory committee, the first major step in raising money toward a bid. Meanwhile, it may have stretched the limits of tax law, which prohibits political nonprofits from having a primary purpose of supporting or opposing candidates.
“It’s possible that the ‘opportunity’ the center was promoting was only John Edwards’ opportunity _ his opportunity to run for president,” said Massie Ritsch, a spokesman for the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, a Washington-based research group that tracks money in politics.”
Thanks for all your work on the sordid Edwards story, Simon – I just can’t believe Elizabeth is portraying John as this tireless antipoverty crusader. Will the Edwards’ “deceiving” ever end?
Beige said it best.
No bloodhound required to find these losers.
RH has no high ground no matter what and neither does JE. Looks like both these women are going to chew what’s left of JE’s sorry cheatin’ ass off.
As you all continue to discuss Lisa Druke’s lastest pay day story from
the National Enquirer. I think you all should remember these important
facts:
John and Elizabeth Edwardsa have been married for 31 years.
They had four children together, three are living, and one, recently, died.
Elizabeth Edwards has stage 4 cancer.
Any decent human being would not have inserted herself
into their lives, and then sold stories about them to the National Enquierer for monetary gain.
Lisa Druke, a.k.a. the Rielle (Real) Hunter fills me with disgust.
I hope someday to never hear anything about her again.
By the way, who’s fault is it that the
Rielle(Real)Hunter does not know who the father of her child is?
First, we don’t yet know for certain that Rielle has raised her ugly head on the DNA-proof-of-parenting issue as so reported by the National Enquirer. We shall see. But to Deceiver saying Elizabeth Edwards publishing her book maybe “wasn’t the best decision” (where she highlights the pathetic “you are so hot” come on line and suggests ever so slyly that John wasn’t very smart about a lot of things), I say “Hah”. Assuming the kid is his, what better way to maintain one’s dignity and kick your cheating spouse in the ass for all eternity by doing just what Elizabeth has done. What can John possibly say to her? Don’t write a cathartic book about being resilient while you are dying of Cancer? He could no more stop her book than he could stop Rielle’s reaction to it. Perfect strategy by Elizabeth, I say, if making John Edwards look more and more like the ass of the century at home and in the history books and all the while never having to put him down in front of their kids. I like her style. It’s right on target, considering who the targets are.
You’re welcome. In a way, it feels good that we’ve contributed. In another way, it’s sad that it’s been left to us by those who’ve abdicated their Constitutionally protected responsibilities.
i think my dad summed it up pretty well.. he said “edwards is a dirtbag and rielle probably knew what she was doin the whole time..”
I read a recent post on another blog. Simply stated, RH good have danced in front of him necked but he was the one who had control of his zipper. That’s the bottom line.
Maybe EE’s book was designed to force a DNA test and start JE and RH fighting. Good plan.
Women go after each other on this topic because there is no hope to fix this if the men are involved. Apparently “men can’t help it”, so we have to teach each other to leave other women’s families alone.
RH get a DNA test and get child support form whom ever, then spend your life making up to this child what you have done to her. Do you want her to grow up and follow your path or do you want better for her? Do you want to see her party and have sex and drugs every weekend or do you want better for her? Get child support and leave these people alone. You aren’t so old you can’t change, but you soon will be. Middle age and Karma suck.
One more comment to RH. Get your family off of TV. Everything they say is designed to hurt EE. Not the high ground you may be looking for. If JE loved you so much he’d be with you right now but he’s at home where he belongs.
Any decent human being would not have inserted herself
into their lives…
Any decent husband and father would never have allowed a DNA-gulping, venereal disease grab-bag like Lisa Druke anywhere near his family.
Simon said, “In another way, it’s sad that it’s been left to us by those who’ve abdicated their Constitutionally protected responsibilities.”
Seems to me that the media has decided that adultery and philandering are minor sins for politicians and public figures, so they don’t really report on them and leave them to the tabloids to report. And Deceiver of course.
I blame the French.
Reading Minnow’s quote reminded me of that part..
Peter Scher, campaign manager for Edwards when he was the VP candidate in 2004, has some interesting revelations out in this Politico.com story:
“In the fall of 2006, John Edwards’ political high command began hearing disturbing reports from aides on the road. The candidate, they were told, was spending too much time with an eccentric filmmaker named Rielle Hunter.
So when Edwards and Hunter returned from his trip to Africa in early October, his former campaign manager Peter Scher confronted him: If Edwards was having an affair, Scher told the candidate flatly, he couldn’t run for president.
Edwards denied the affair, but Scher and other loyalists from his 2004 campaign doubted his word, made excuses and stayed out of the 2008 presidential race when Edwards launched his campaign after Christmas.”
(See link: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22127.html)
Oh, I forgot to mention that in that Politico article on page 3, former aides who worked with Edwards on his bid for the ‘08 nomination stated that after Elizabeth’s cancer returned in March of ‘07:
“John was much more reluctant to continue the campaign than she was,” said a former aide who was present as they made their decision.”
This former aide’s claim shows that Elizabeth is deceiving the public with regard to the true extent of her own ambition.
Minnow – “if Rielle told her story in a compassionate manner” – I find this strange coming from you who said EE is not “classy” for writing a book and airing her dirt laundry on Oprah. Have you “bedded” a married person in your past life if you think RH should come out in public and defend herself?
I agree with Darla on EE bringing this ugly affair out into the light. It’s obvious that EE suspects that JRE and RH had an agreement to wait it out until EE passes away to be together and I’d bet JRE has been funneling money to his honey all along.
Who knows, if the paternity test shows JRE is the father, EE will see JRE has still been lying to her. Maybe she will kick his sorry ass out and divorce him after she finishes humiliating the two “lovebirds” in public all the while never having to put him down in front of their kids.
Why isn’t she TALKING? Did she SIGN something? WHY, WHY isn’t she talking????
Rh needs think of her daughter. She’s already hung the term “bastard” on her and she needs to make decisions based on what her dtr. will read when she is 10-15 y/o. She has no high ground. Neither does JE. This may have been a fantasy love in an alternate universe for both of them, but reality hit with EE’s cancer and the extra baby. By extra, I mean one that doesn’t belong in the contract of EE and JE’s marriage.
EE is angry and needs to get it out. She may also wish she hadn’t done this when her kids ask her questions. Again, leave other families alone. Get your own man or woman. There’s a reason adultry is a sin. You may not believe, but if you follow the rules you live a lot happier life. Maybe not perfet but not so complicated.
I’ve told my husband if I catch him I may not be able to divorce him, as we have a handicapped child who needs us, but I will consider the contract broken, even if I have to keep a legal one. I will find my own companionship and I will enjoy it. I’m almost 60 and look 40. My husband understands I mean it. I even have a few ideas, you know just in case.
I believe this relationship was a fantasy for JE. It got him out of his painful reality. It was a mistake but if you watch u-tubes and interviews you can put together the decline that got him to this point. RH was just looking for companionship in the wrong place, JE needs some serious psychiatric help. I saw part of the interview with him, he truly looks broken. There is no spark in him. I doubt RH would even want him anymore if she spent time with him. I don’t think EE wants him anymore. Man his mom may not want him any more.
I love Rielle Hunter and I can’t wait to hear her side of the story. Anyone with eyes knew John Edwards was a big creep and he manipulated this poor innocent girl and now he’s manipulating her daughter even.
I think Rielle needs to tell the public the truth if she doesn’t want her daughter to live a lie her whole life.
Trust me, as I know, as I am
-Someone Whose Mother Lived a Lie.
@Rielle Love:
Yeah, I guess it will be interesting to see how this all pans out, what Rielle’s side of the story is. I already have an opinion of Ms. Hunter/Drucke. As with every story, we all react based on our personal beliefs and experiences. Sounds like your mom might have lived a similar narrative as Ms. Hunter.
As for me, my biases are as follow:
I am married. I take my vows seriously and when I hear about women who knowingly have sex with married men, I think they are pretty terrible. Sure, they have their own self esteem issues and the guy shouldn’t be messing around in the first place, but I would prefer the beyotches stay away from my husband.
Second, my brother cheated on his wife with a woman he worked with. She knew full well that my brother was my married and had two children with his wife. It was especially cute of her when she called the house to talk to my 5 year old nephew and said, “Hi honey, this is your daddy’s girlfriend.” I can’t think of anything classier, can you? Or when her ex husband called my parents to let them know that she lost custody of her kids to him because she is a liar and a fraud. I tried to convince my sister-in-law to leave him. She went to a therapist who told her, after meeting with my brother, that she should couldn’t give her details about why, but that she should take the kids and leave. After some wrangling, my sis in law decided to stay with him and act as if nothing ever happened. So, she not so silently resents him (probably much like EE does). And, oh yeah, she has leukemia.
So, yeah, my personal experience plays into why I would punch Rielle and John Edwards in the face if I were to run into them.
Maybe the public doesn’t care about the truth much past you screwed a married man who had 2 small children and a dying wife.
I found EE’s statement “that if the child is John’s it affects his life and not her’s” which I think they already know he is the father but John’s on his own and the little girl will not be a part of the family while EE is alive. Does anyone else think this too?
“Hugh Grant permanently changed his public perception internationally with a single self deprecating interview on a late night talkshow.”
Hugh Grant had fans before the hooker scandal; Rielle never had fans. Hugh Grant, though he did have a long-time girlfriend, wasn’t married; Rielle slept with a married man whose wife had cancer. People wanted to forgive Hugh Grant. No one’s got any reason to want to let Rielle off the hook.
First of all, you don’t have to leave your children any money if you don’t want to. There is no such thing as equal partners. IF you adopt a child you may have as part of a contract that that child is an heir, but you don’t have to leave your natural children a dime. You can write them out of the will by simply stating you have no intention of leaving them money or by leaving them $5.00. That depends on the laws of the state you live in. If JE dies of a heart attack, game over. EE isn’t responsible for his extra children. No court will drag a wife to court to support her husband’s extra child. RH could sue the estate, provided there is one. If they hold everything in joint tenenency EE becomes owner on his death. If she is beneficary of various retirement plans and insurance policies, you can’t get that money either. JE is in such a bad place he may be signing anything to relieve his guilt. Once the money is moved and protected it’s out of reach. I’m sure 2 lawyers know how to do this.
I don’t think EE is in denial. I believe she’s coming to terms with her cheating husband as best she can. She still has a way to go. If you are dying why would you spend time worrying about your husband’s mistakes. She revealed a lot when she told Oprah that her mother had once thought her father cheated. Maybe it’s a good thing for her kids to read and talk about what dad did. Cate needs to know that a relationship is worth it. Right now she’s probably wondering why waste your time on a man for 30 years if he’s going to cheat on you. The girls need to see a strong woman and the boy needs to see the consequences of cheating on a family and a woman he promised to love and be faithful to. Otherwise he will think this behaior is OK.(can we say Kennedy) I wonder if JE has asked himself what Wade would think of him now. My bet is he would beat the crap out of him for this. Or maybe it would never have happened if Wade had lived.
Pay attention RH: JE had to sit down with his kids and tell them what he did to their mother. They are scared about what will happen to their family. Not only do they have a dying mother, they have a woman out there threatening them with helping to loose their family. He had to sit down one on one with his oldest dtr and tell her what he did. Notice Cate wasn’t there. She is angry and hates the thought of you. Get your child support and make your dtr. happy and leave this family alone. You’ve participated in enough damage to them. Do you really want to live in the back woods of NC and do basically nothing but watch this pathetic man grow old? The fantasy is over.
Happy Camper, I’ve known a few couples that have worked things out after one of them cheated and are still happily married…but it took a lot of work, was not plastered all over the media and in none of the cases did the affair produce a child.
This whole thing is an unspeakably sordid tragedy and my heart goes out to the kids…all of them.
WTF?????
I didn’t write any such thing, Marilyn.
Check your facts before you inquire about my bedding history.
Explain how RH could tell this story in a compasssionate manner. So many people have been hurt by this relationship. There is so much anger involved. As the younger chidren get older they will truly understand what there father did to their mother and will never accept a mistress in their lives. Cate would probably never come home again. At least I wouldn’t occupy the same space with the woman who made my mother’s last days so painful. That would be pure fantasy.
My apologizes Minnow – it was Fortunate Son who made this statement on May 7 at 11:45 am. – originally when I read is comment I thought he was quoting you.
Fortunate Son’s quote function seems to be permanently engaged, which can make his comments a bit confusing. What’s the deal, F.S.?
Thanks for the retraction Marilyn.
I don’t have a Rielle Fan Club Membership Card. Not in this lifetime, nor the last
These are kids. One of them is dead. They aren’t basking in anything and Cate is staying away. Denial is a very good coping mechanism and a lot of people use it who are grieving or dying. Having worked for hospice for years, if you can maintain denial you will lessen your stress. EE is processing denial. She has a way to go and may never complete the process, so what. If she’s happy, leave her alone.
She has a right to take a shot at the mistress. She’s been way more considerate than I would have been. I would have gotten on TV and told the world in the beginning and maybe there wouldn’t be an extra baby to consider at this point. Her dtrs. need a strong example and her son needs to know the consequences of his actions on his family.
Fortunate Son, are you applying to be the next man in RH’s life. I imagine there might be a line so get your app. in soon.
This blog entry is interesting:
In Elizabeth Edwards’ new book, “Resilience,” she scorns her husband’s former mistress (Rielle Hunter, whom she refuses to name). But she brushes another former campaign worker with the same brush, calling them both “pathetic.”
Edwards compares the mistress with a young man who first volunteered in John Edwards’ 1998 Senate campaign. She describes him as “John’s obsessed fan.”
“I will call him Jim,” she writes.
Jim “volunteered for everything,” drove the candidate around, washed his car, took care of his dry-cleaning. “There was no job too menial for Jim,” she said.
Jim and his wife, who worked a late shift, would leave McDonalds breakfasts outside the Edwards’ door until Elizabeth told her to stop. Jim’s obsequiousness got to Elizabeth until a lie on his part finally forced his departure from the campaign. But he hung around. He tried to vacation where they vacationed and sent daily emails to the Edwards’ friends.
“The existence of a Jim made it easier to accept the existence of this woman,” Elizabeth wrote. “…My life at some level is tragic. Theirs is worse; theirs is pathetic.”
Campaigns, particularly those as intense as John Edwards’, are close-knit communities. A lot of people who worked on the campaign probably know him. Wherever he is, he may be as unhappy with Elizabeth’s description of him as Rielle Hunter is.
Sorry, entered that comment before I was finished making it:
That blog article is entitled “Edwards Book Mystery: Who is Jim?” By Charlotte Observer journalist, Jim Morrill.
It seems her opinion of Andrew Young is quite an about face from all the times in her book “Saving Graces” that Elizabeth speaks glowingly of him and all the work he performed for their campaigns. She even talks about how she enjoyed DisneyWorld in the Summer of 2004 and how fun it was Andrew and Cheri Young and their two young children joined the Edwards in Orlando on page 237 of that book. That seems like a far cry from trying in a stalkerish way to vacation where Elizabeth and John were vacationing.
Maybe EE is “attacking” RH to get the paternity settled so that the Edwards family can move forward knowing the whole truth – obviously not all the details were told to EE while she was writing her book.
I’m linking an article I read this morning. Does anyone know if this could be true – that RH may not be able to forxw JRE to participate in a paternity test now because too much time has past since the birth of Frances? It says the child may inquire at anytime during their life but the mother is allowed a certain time limit for establishing the paternity of the child?
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/272389
Well after all, Andrew Young to the fall for JRE back in Dec 2007 saying he’s the father of RH baby. Probably EE is angry that “Jim” so willing helped to cover up JRE’s lie with the whole affair.
This is interesting. She may have started the statue of limitations when she told the press, when she was pregers through her lawyer, that JE wasn’t the father and that Andrew Young was. Then she has refused testing until now. It may be that the baby will now have to turn 18 to find out. The statue of limitations is designed to provide a limit on how and when someone can interfer in this case with the Daddy’s family. If it wasn’t availabe, then RH could and would threaten this family forever or at least until the baby is 18. That’s all the hold she would have. Problem is the people involved are old and in 18 years both JE and RH won’t be moving so fast. He already isn’t looking so good.
JE may want a test to prove he’s the father, because he knows or was told there are other possibilities. And he doesn’t want to take responsibility for some one elses child. She may have refused because she’s afraid he might not be. Now JE may not want to resolve this while EE is alive because he has done enough to his family. And RH may have to accept this because she was a willing participant in hurting JE’s wife and kids.
There are ways to DNA this child on the side. They may not be admissible in court but it can be done. Neither one appears to be doing anything like that.
If I were EE, I’d get a PI and use the DNA to prove RH used the baby to alienate JE’s affection from his family and I would sue her for disrespecting my family. Then I’d sue JE and take all him money for my family. RH would be named as the corespondent. I would get both of them out of my life. Let the lawyers fight it out and I’d show up only when I have to.
I think your right Happy Camper that EE should push to get the paternity issue settled so that her kids don’t have to deal with RH later on in life when EE’s gone. But sadly, I think right now EE is choosing to believe whatever JRE has told her regarding the little girl and the whole affair. But hey stay tuned I know EE is one smart lady and I believe she is doing what is necessary for her children and she is trying to help JRE’s career relating to poverty work. I read at Benny’s world that JRE went yesterday to El Salvador for most of this week to work on poverty issues.
I read that his inner circle had plans to take down his campaign if they thought he was going to win because they came to believe he was screwing this woman. I wish they’d told me before I gave him the money that paid their salaries and JE’s sorry piece.
Way to go RH, you’ll go down in history as worse that typhiod Mary or Toyko Rose and who ever else sets out to use their pathetic bodies just to screw.