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		<title>By: Olympic Swimmers Wear Germany’s Dissolving Swimsuit : NewsFail.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olympic Swimmers Wear Germany’s Dissolving Swimsuit : NewsFail.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 00:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TO the waters, and into a bikini that dissolves in water. It being the last word in Olympic swimming technology. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: AllyKat</title>
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		<dc:creator>AllyKat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, you release a gator into the pool, and even I could set a new record. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, you release a gator into the pool, and even I could set a new record. <img src='http://deceiver.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Koka</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2009/07/29/michael-phelps-is-a-sore-loser/comment-page-1/#comment-34499</link>
		<dc:creator>Koka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sounds to me to be the only fair way to determine who is really the fastest. Same as running in a race. Doesn&#039;t matter how much your shoes cost, if you are a slower runner, its because you ARE slower.

Brrrr..with the water that cold I&#039;d never make it as a triathlon athlete....lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds to me to be the only fair way to determine who is really the fastest. Same as running in a race. Doesn&#8217;t matter how much your shoes cost, if you are a slower runner, its because you ARE slower.</p>
<p>Brrrr..with the water that cold I&#8217;d never make it as a triathlon athlete&#8230;.lol</p>
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		<title>By: Les Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Les Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the coach is the screwball.

Starting about 20 years ago, the sport of triathlon allowed the use of wet suits, or partial-length suits.  They were thicker than these Lazers et.al., but the primary purpose was for temperature control.  Some of these lake swims were early in the year, and swimming a mile in 65 degree water would make you one fast swimmer, if you didn&#039;t freeze first.  When the water temps got above a certain temp, the various rule books disallowed them, and that&#039;s pretty much the practice now.  I eventually bought a half-suit, and I timed the difference in the pool -- at least 5 seconds faster every 100 meters, which is quite an immediate improvement, especially if you&#039;re swimming 1/2 mile or further.  I bought it because I got tired of being behind people for reasons other than they were naturally faster than me.

I would have preferred that no wet suits were allowed.
In general, I think these kind of athletic events (swimming, track) should be who&#039;s the fastest, and not who is the fastest with extra speed-enhancing equipment. 

The only reason supersuits were allowed for in-pool competition was to &quot;make swimming more exciting&quot; by creating faster times. Someone in some governing body decided swimming needed a boost - I guess to increase revenue by increasing the number of spectators? Why else? Without the new suits the swimmers would still improve and make new records, or at least get new personal bests, until their age caught up with them.  I don&#039;t think the swimmers were behind this.  What &quot;real&quot; glory is there in beating someone who is normally close to being your equal in time, when all you did was wear a different suit?  And so what if a record hasn&#039;t been broken in 2 years ?

I think the same rational was used to change the rules for backstroke turns and breaststroke several years ago -- to lower times.  At least that didn&#039;t involve non-natural equipment. I&#039;ve really loved swimming competitively since 1969, but if people don&#039;t have a yearning to watch swimming, then speeding everyone up a notch isn&#039;t the solution, because as soon as everyone starts wearing the same suit, the playing field will be level again.  You want more spectators (= more income!!) ? Make the traditional suits transparent.  Or release a gator at the appropriate moment.  Other than that, I&#039;ll admit it&#039;s hard to get excited about swimming unless you&#039;re competing, or used to.  What I like about it is it&#039;s a team sport, but totally up to the individual - and who is fastest - period. No judging to speak of.

The only suits allowed, especially in pool competition, should be the traditional racing suit - the thing the size of fruit-o-the-loom underwear.  Of course, women also have to wear something above the waist, so they&#039;ve been wearing some kind of a full suit forever -- just not ones made of super-material.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the coach is the screwball.</p>
<p>Starting about 20 years ago, the sport of triathlon allowed the use of wet suits, or partial-length suits.  They were thicker than these Lazers et.al., but the primary purpose was for temperature control.  Some of these lake swims were early in the year, and swimming a mile in 65 degree water would make you one fast swimmer, if you didn&#8217;t freeze first.  When the water temps got above a certain temp, the various rule books disallowed them, and that&#8217;s pretty much the practice now.  I eventually bought a half-suit, and I timed the difference in the pool &#8212; at least 5 seconds faster every 100 meters, which is quite an immediate improvement, especially if you&#8217;re swimming 1/2 mile or further.  I bought it because I got tired of being behind people for reasons other than they were naturally faster than me.</p>
<p>I would have preferred that no wet suits were allowed.<br />
In general, I think these kind of athletic events (swimming, track) should be who&#8217;s the fastest, and not who is the fastest with extra speed-enhancing equipment. </p>
<p>The only reason supersuits were allowed for in-pool competition was to &#8220;make swimming more exciting&#8221; by creating faster times. Someone in some governing body decided swimming needed a boost &#8211; I guess to increase revenue by increasing the number of spectators? Why else? Without the new suits the swimmers would still improve and make new records, or at least get new personal bests, until their age caught up with them.  I don&#8217;t think the swimmers were behind this.  What &#8220;real&#8221; glory is there in beating someone who is normally close to being your equal in time, when all you did was wear a different suit?  And so what if a record hasn&#8217;t been broken in 2 years ?</p>
<p>I think the same rational was used to change the rules for backstroke turns and breaststroke several years ago &#8212; to lower times.  At least that didn&#8217;t involve non-natural equipment. I&#8217;ve really loved swimming competitively since 1969, but if people don&#8217;t have a yearning to watch swimming, then speeding everyone up a notch isn&#8217;t the solution, because as soon as everyone starts wearing the same suit, the playing field will be level again.  You want more spectators (= more income!!) ? Make the traditional suits transparent.  Or release a gator at the appropriate moment.  Other than that, I&#8217;ll admit it&#8217;s hard to get excited about swimming unless you&#8217;re competing, or used to.  What I like about it is it&#8217;s a team sport, but totally up to the individual &#8211; and who is fastest &#8211; period. No judging to speak of.</p>
<p>The only suits allowed, especially in pool competition, should be the traditional racing suit &#8211; the thing the size of fruit-o-the-loom underwear.  Of course, women also have to wear something above the waist, so they&#8217;ve been wearing some kind of a full suit forever &#8212; just not ones made of super-material.</p>
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		<title>By: Jrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ll see what Phelps is made of now.  If he is a true Athlete, competitor and champion, this loss will only make him strive harder to win.</description>
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		<title>By: Koka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Koka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, AllyKat. Cheating is cheating no matter how its done. I think they are overlooking it because they (the sports&#039; governing ruling body) simply does not want to deal with it. So just slap a cutoff date on it and let it hang there.

There was also the point that at last years&#039; Olympics the pool had an influence, it made the swimming speeds faster to a certain degree. Something to do with how the water baffle thingies that separated the lanes making the water more calmer, and how the water was recycled back into the pool, too.

Naked swimming...it&#039;d depend on who was doing it. Some danglies I don&#039;t think we&#039;d want to see...LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, AllyKat. Cheating is cheating no matter how its done. I think they are overlooking it because they (the sports&#8217; governing ruling body) simply does not want to deal with it. So just slap a cutoff date on it and let it hang there.</p>
<p>There was also the point that at last years&#8217; Olympics the pool had an influence, it made the swimming speeds faster to a certain degree. Something to do with how the water baffle thingies that separated the lanes making the water more calmer, and how the water was recycled back into the pool, too.</p>
<p>Naked swimming&#8230;it&#8217;d depend on who was doing it. Some danglies I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;d want to see&#8230;LOL</p>
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		<title>By: D---</title>
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		<dc:creator>D---</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McMom - some of us have drag greater then others</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McMom &#8211; some of us have drag greater then others</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t be too sure about drag. The water could bee cold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t be too sure about drag. The water could bee cold.</p>
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		<title>By: AllyKat</title>
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		<dc:creator>AllyKat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am too lazy to look it up, but I believe that Speedo said that its sponsored swimmers could wear the new suits in the World Games as they had not released an equivalent. However, I may be mixing this up with a similar stance at the Olympics (regarding the LZR and a competing suit said to be better). Regardless, one could argue that the records set with &quot;fast suits&quot; are less valid than when swimmers all wore the same type/style of swimwear. Swim caps and shaving all body hair has only become a technique within the last few decades. I would love to know how Mark Spitz and other past greats would have done with the advantages available now. That might answer how much is from the suit and how much is from the swimmer.

On the records being allowed to stand: Considering that medal standings from the Cold War era have been allowed to stand, despite athletes and coaches admitting they doped (hello, Eastern Bloc), is anyone really surprised that these results are being let alone? I actually believe that Paul Biedermann could have beaten Phelps, but some of the record-breaking swimmers are less credible, especially when one looks at their times without the suits and in the recent past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am too lazy to look it up, but I believe that Speedo said that its sponsored swimmers could wear the new suits in the World Games as they had not released an equivalent. However, I may be mixing this up with a similar stance at the Olympics (regarding the LZR and a competing suit said to be better). Regardless, one could argue that the records set with &#8220;fast suits&#8221; are less valid than when swimmers all wore the same type/style of swimwear. Swim caps and shaving all body hair has only become a technique within the last few decades. I would love to know how Mark Spitz and other past greats would have done with the advantages available now. That might answer how much is from the suit and how much is from the swimmer.</p>
<p>On the records being allowed to stand: Considering that medal standings from the Cold War era have been allowed to stand, despite athletes and coaches admitting they doped (hello, Eastern Bloc), is anyone really surprised that these results are being let alone? I actually believe that Paul Biedermann could have beaten Phelps, but some of the record-breaking swimmers are less credible, especially when one looks at their times without the suits and in the recent past.</p>
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		<title>By: MC Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>MC Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rocko, don&#039;t get your hopes up about the naked swimming. Certain...appendages would create too much drag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rocko, don&#8217;t get your hopes up about the naked swimming. Certain&#8230;appendages would create too much drag.</p>
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