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Aug
09

And If You Need Even More Evidence That PETA Is Stupid and Insane…

More details keep coming out about their absolutely demented anti-McDonald’s campaign. From FoxNews.com (Boo!):

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“Unhappy Meals” featuring a knife-wielding Ronald McDonald and bloody rubber chickens are upsetting parents who say the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals are unfairly targeting their kids at McDonald’s restaurants across the country.

PETA’s “McCruelty Campaign” has ruffled the feathers of moms and dads in Albany who say they don’t want their kids exposed to any throat-slitting chickens or pictures of slaughtered poultry.

“I don’t want my son to be around something like this. This is not fair for a child,” Stephaine Gipson told FOX23 News in Albany.

“I think it’s unhappy that they target children,” said parent Michelle Natale.

But the animal rights activists say kids are jaded enough by television and video games to handle the carnographic images, and intend to continue their campaign pressuring McDonald’s to use more humane means of killing chickens.

“I think children and adults deserve to be told the truth — and that’s that behind Ronald McDonald’s smile is cruelty to animals,” said PETA spokeswoman Lindsay Rajt.

Idiots. Here’s one of their disgusting displays in front of a McDonald’s in Buffalo a few months back:

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Dear PETA: You are targeting people’s children. This is bad, even for you. Maybe wrapping up interns in cellophane and making them lay in the street might convince somebody, but going out of your way to scare little kids, and then brushing it away with, “Oh, the video games these days,” is revolting.

Stick to showing us dumb bimbos’ naked asses, you creeps.

Update: Is this woman…

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…the same as this woman?

Looks like her. And both garish stunts are in the same style (if you want to call it that). If so, here’s what the Memphis, TN Commercial Appeal said about the latter picture:

Ashley Byrne, a Washington, D.C.-based campaign coordinator with People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), talks with Memphis police officers during a recent demonstration outside City Hall that coincided with World Vegetarian Week.

When officers inquired about the well-being of intern Shawn Herbold (bottom) and volunteer Thomas Olsen, a sweat-soaked Herbold replied that she was in pain and feeling nauseated from the heat after being wrapped in cellophane for 30 minutes, and also asked how much longer she needed to stay there. Byrne let her know it wouldn’t be much longer and left her under the hot afternoon sun for 30 minutes more while debating with the officers.

Wonder how long “Ronald” had to hang upside-down like that while Ashley stood around looking pretty? Meat Is Murder, and Interns Are Interchangeable.

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63 Responses to “And If You Need Even More Evidence That PETA Is Stupid and Insane…”


  1. 1 Angry Army Wife Aug 11th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    OMG. That was a display? I would have pulled my car over and knocked that chicken on their ass. I repeat, why are they still around?

  2. 2 Freak Show Aug 11th, 2009 at 3:25 pm

    What were in those sandwiches they were giving away? Hopefully chicken.

  3. 3 Syd Aug 11th, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    How can they use McDonald’s trademark like that? Obviously, I don’t understand the law.

  4. 4 TheRose Aug 11th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

    I have the same question as Syd. Aren’t the golden arches and the likeness of Ronald McDonald trademarked? Hell, even the colours might be. Certainly Coca-Cola trademarked their particular shade of red.

    You know, child endagerment charges have been levelled for lesser crimes than this one.

  5. 5 ElizabethM Aug 11th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    That does it….in support of McD’s I’m going to order extra bacon on my breakfast sandwich tomorrow. And then I’ll eat it sloooooooowly to really savor the tasty goodness.

    Thanks PETA! I haven’t been to McDonalds in a long time. You’ve inspired me…..

  6. 6 Kyle Aug 11th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    You know I hate PETA and everything they stand for, but goddamnit that whole Ronald McDonald hanging upside down with his throat slit is pretty funny. It would be even better though if they were to replace Ronald with that Ingrich Newkirk whore, or whatever her name is.
    I’ve killed/plucked/gutted many a chicken in my time, and I’ll tell you one thing, the chickens sure as hell don’t care their fellows are being beheaded, when they’re all standing around pecking at the blood and guts on the ground.

  7. 7 Angry Army Wife Aug 11th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    Ohhh, I just ate lunch. Thanks! I love chicken and do not want to think about what you just posted.

    I think KFC is calling my name for lunch tomorrow. Take that PETA! Blubber and chicken.

  8. 8 Saro Aug 11th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    @Syd and TheRose – you guys are right, the arches, etc. are trademarked, but my guess is that (unfortunately) what PeTA is doing probably falls under fair use or satire/parody, which is a way to get around copyright laws. I’m sure if there was a trademark way for McDonald’s to get PeTA to stop doing this kind of thing, they’d have already done it.

  9. 9 TheIrish Aug 11th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    I said it before, I’ll say it again, where is Peter Griffen when you need him?

  10. 10 mEEEE Aug 11th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    I love you all! Your comments are pure gold!

    non/sarc

  11. 11 Pastafarian Aug 11th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    Did you read through the comments section over there at peta files? Yikes what a bunch of retards. Mindless drones. I never went to college, but I bet that’s very much how college freshmen talk. It’s all…

    “Suddenly my eyes have been opened, blah, blah, blah…Corporate America…blah” Doesn’t that get boring after a while? Ugh. I don’t ever remember being that young.

    GET THE HELL OFF MY LAWN!!!!!

  12. 12 Beige Aug 11th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    Yeah, Pasta–every generation thinks it discovered sex and half-assed political activism. Then they graduate, get jobs, and STFU. Or they WOULD, in an ideal universe.

  13. 13 flirt Aug 11th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    Here’s my question:
    Why would you slit the throat of a dead chicken?

  14. 14 Beige Aug 11th, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    @Flirt: To get your magic decoder ring back?

  15. 15 D--- Aug 11th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    Everybody hates corporations until they get hungry

  16. 16 Ian Aug 11th, 2009 at 6:33 pm

    Pasta, both of your comments were exactly what I was thinking. And the lawn comment was priceless.

    Here’s what I’m thinking. Since we all know how peta “ethically” treats dogs and cats, we should start a new cult. PETI – People for the Ethical Treatment of Ingrid. That way some employees of the cult could dump her in a garbage bag behind the piggly wiggly.

  17. 17 Minnow Aug 11th, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    what PeTA is doing probably falls under fair use or satire/parody, which is a way to get around copyright laws.

    Again, parody is protected as fair use but satire is not.

    The following is my own extrapolation from an Arts, Ethics & Law course which I was required to take as part of my BFA (an 8am course which I often attended while still in REM cycle). I’m not an attorney, so if I stray, don’t rip my head off and leave my corpse to dance around the coop floor…

    You can use the golden arches or Ronald if your point is directly about McDonalds. That’s parody. This is allowed because parody relies on a certain amount of likeness in order for the audience to get the joke.

    You can’t use the M or a Ronald representation (or any reasonable facsimile) to make a statement about global warming, modern society, or the price of condoms in Bankok. That’s satire. Satire is not generally protected because the nature of satire is usually to malign either the original material or the object, plus the humor does not hinge upon a direct likeness. Satire is further removed from the object of ridicule than parody.

    Much of the parody/satire debate hinges upon the judge’s interpretation of the boundaries between the two concepts. The best thing that I can liken it to is “when exactly does the color gray darken enough to be considered black?” No two people will point to the same point on a color scale and say “this is where black begins”. Same with where parody bleeds into satire and where satire becomes malicious.

    In my eyes, PeTA’s stomping dangerously close to unprotected satire here. Are they really commenting upon McDonalds Corp, or is their goal a statement about the treatment of chickens for the meat market?

    Further complicating matters is that fact that PeTA is giving away this material. If they were using McCruelty items for commercial purposes, McDonalds could legally deep fry their scrawny vegan thighs in the fat from virgin harp seals. Disney is perhaps most famous for this sort of thing, especially with Mickey and Mickey’s various body parts.

    Within infringement, one can also claim “dilution” and/or “tarnishment”. Does the presence of the mock item take away from the value of the original? In this case, no one is purchasing more Unhappymeals than Happymeals, therefore corporate might choose not to bother with the hassle of filing suit on any of the three concepts. Of the three, tarnishment is the most likely legal stick to beat PeTA with here.

    Huh. And I thought I’d never use that class material in real life.

    Wish I could say the same about differential calculus…

  18. 18 Pastafarian Aug 11th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    Correction. I do remember those days. I voted for Clinton the first time ’round, second time too, and I remember calling Bush the Elder a Nazi. I used those words too. How old was I? That was what, 15-16 years ago? It’s kinda cringe worthy/funny now.

    True story, but I also remember in that same conversation I wondered how James Bond villains got all of their henchman to dress the same. Wouldn’t someone notice you buying like 1,000 of the same red uniform? And they’re all criminals right? Not exactly big order followers. Anyway that’s where my mind was in those days.

  19. 19 Minnow Aug 11th, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    I wondered how James Bond villains got all of their henchman to dress the same.

    L.L. Bean. They even monogram.

  20. 20 Koka Aug 11th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    Whenever the circus comes to town there are always college freshman girls in bikinis, orange and black body paint, and in dog crates outside of the auditorium/stadium representing PeTA to protest the animals being kept in cages. In February. Now, Feb temps in Chattanooga are around the 34* mark, sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less. But it’s always colder than a witch’s (fill in whatever body part you prefer a reference to) that time of the year. That told me how dumb PeTARDS were years before I found this wonderfully sweet website.

    Now, if the PeTARDS would simply just eat meat protein their brains would develop some to the point where they just might realize they are so far out in left field that they can see Russia from their house.

  21. 21 Saro Aug 11th, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    Thanks for clarifying, Minnow. I have a JD, but admittedly never took a stand-alone copyright class, so my comment was coming from a little in the dark. I knew parody fell under fair use, but wasn’t sure about satire. Most of what I was told was that most of any of these arguments boil down to can the reasonable person figure out that PeTA doesn’t speak for the McDonald’s corporation. As you noted, much of this stands on the particular judge’s subjective viewpoint. And naturally, by definition, satire walks a closer line between all of this than parody.

    As for whether or not this is satire, hard to say. But my guess is that you are correct and McD’s simply doesn’t bother with the hassle of lawsuits. You notice that based on this comment board alone, it’s pretty clear that it’s not seriously hurting their business.

  22. 22 Scott F. Aug 12th, 2009 at 12:44 am

    McDonalds is doing the smart thing by ignoring them. I’ve made it a point to read a lot of literature from self-appointed ‘activists’ and ‘revolutionaries’ over the years, as in today’s world if you’re engaging the enemy they are likely to be (or at least see themselves as) one or the other.

    The one thing they all agree on is that old mantra that ‘any attention is good attention’. Often times engaging them in any manner simply lends credence and weight to their argument – thus the time honored ‘no negotiation with terrorists’ policy of the United States government. Even sitting down at the same table symbolically places them on the same level as those they’re negotiating with.

    Ignoring them shows people how ineffectual they really are, and often causes them to foam at the mouth and become even more agitated, which has the added bonus of discrediting their argument even further.

  23. 23 Toubrouk Aug 12th, 2009 at 1:11 am

    I wonder what will happen when one of those PeTA drone will hurt/kill themselves in one of their stunts.

  24. 24 California Dave Aug 12th, 2009 at 3:20 am

    If I lived in that area, I would walk right past them holding a big sign that had four letters on it:

    STFU

    Then I’d go inside, buy a Big Mac, Quarter Pounder w/Cheese, and a Filet O’Fish…and walk right past them with the bag and the sign.

  25. 25 Romy Aug 12th, 2009 at 3:33 am

    Ok yeah it’s over the top and way too vicious of a display, but I do think that if kids or adults want to eat chickens, they should be able to handle the sight of a bloody chicken. How the hell do they think they’re made? Do they grow on trees, all plucked and headless? No! I don’t agree at all with Peta’s ways of communicating the message but come on, there is truth to it.

  26. 26 Scott F. Aug 12th, 2009 at 4:00 am

    “Ok yeah it’s over the top and way too vicious of a display, but I do think that if kids or adults want to eat chickens, they should be able to handle the sight of a bloody chicken.”

    My former father-in-law is the Deputy State Fire Marshal in our State, and I used to go to barbecues over at his house where I had many interesting conversations with his work friends once the beer started kicking in. For instance, do you have any idea how often severe car accidents result in decapitation? Much more often than you’d think. In fact, we might say that the risk of decapitation is a ‘fact of life’ for anyone willing to get into a car.

    Now I ask you, should we show my kid a decapitated human corpse before she gets into the car just because there’s ‘truth in it’?

    She knows where her food comes from. I take her down at least once a week to feed the ducks at the pond in our addition, she’s loved it since she was less than a year old. There is one pristine white duck (the only one I’ve ever seen around here with that color) that comes back every spring – she named it ‘Daisy’ and considers it a friend. We also have a tradition of having duck for Christmas dinner every year, and by 2 years old she had made the connection that what was on her plate was the same thing that she was tossing bread to on the lake once a week. Does that mean I’ll take her (now at nearly 4 years old) the next time I go hunting with her uncles? Should I force her to watch as I gut and clean the deer?

    I’ve always believed in being honest with my daughter, as it leaves less messy emotional issues down the road to deal with. She knows that mommy and daddy are Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny. When one of our cats had to be put down due to stomach cancer I calmly explained to her the idea of compassion and empathy, and that it’s our responsibility as higher organisms to make sure our animal kin (and yes, even our food) doesn’t suffer unnecessarily when we can prevent it.

    However, there is a distinct difference between honesty and trauma – and I sincerely hope you don’t have children until you nail down that difference.

  27. 27 Simon Scowl Aug 12th, 2009 at 5:54 am

    Ok yeah it’s over the top and way too vicious of a display, but I do think that if kids or adults want to eat chickens, they should be able to handle the sight of a bloody chicken.

    How does showing Ronald McDonald being hung upside-down and getting his throat cut teach kids anything about chickens?

  28. 28 Beige Aug 12th, 2009 at 8:19 am

    Ok yeah it’s over the top and way too vicious of a display, but I do think that if kids or adults want to eat chickens, they should be able to handle the sight of a bloody chicken. How the hell do they think they’re made? Do they grow on trees, all plucked and headless? No! I don’t agree at all with Peta’s ways of communicating the message but come on, there is truth to it.

    I’m just going to say one thing, here: Abortion protesters. Well, two things: Signs with graphic photos of aborted babies. I mean, if you’re going to have an abortion, you should be “able to handle the sight of a bloody” dead infant.

    I imagine the PETArd’s argument would be that the chicken’s more important and worth more than the baby.

  29. 29 Minnow Aug 12th, 2009 at 11:16 am

    but I do think that if kids or adults want to eat chickens, they should be able to handle the sight of a bloody chicken.

    Great. Then raise your children that way.

    YOUR children.

    It’s none of your business how anyone else handles the subject of meat at their own dinner table.

  30. 30 Fortunate_Son Aug 12th, 2009 at 11:26 am

    John Edwards, you ARE the father:

    http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/10978

  31. 31 Bill Aug 12th, 2009 at 12:46 pm

    As for the trademark copyright, I think they can get around it because of the dead chicken hanging from the Golden Arches. You have to change the symbol by at least 30% variation from the original in order for it to be considered different. The Ronald McDonald is apparently at least 30% different with that big ass grin and big ass knife. Kind of makes me want to kill clowns instead of chickens. Maybe both.

  32. 32 Mermaid Aug 12th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    well, I’ve always hated mcdonalds’ food and I hate what peta has become so in my perfect world, they can just keep at it until they kill each other off. JUST DON’T MESS WITH MY HORMONE FREE, ANTIBIOTIC FREE, GRASS FED, ORGANICALLY AND HUMANELY RAISED MEAT FOOD!!!!

  33. 33 Les Paul Aug 12th, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    I don’t have many relatives left that farm, but it was a way of life to see grandma grab a chicken in the back yard, wring its neck, cut it off, then watch it run around as their collie chased it. I never could figure out how the chicken kept from falling over. About 30 min’s later we ate lunch. We knew exactly where those delicious chicken legs came from. Yeah it was a little gruesome, but that’s life/death. But I do think PeTA’s stunt was a little over the top – maybe they should have just shown pictures of the chickens being killed ? And even then, so what ? Of course you have to kill them to eat them. At the very least kids should be “told” that’s where those nuggets come from.

    I saw a car that lost the battle with a train a few blocks from my house when I was around 10. Although it really wasn’t that mangled, just really smashed on one side, and the people had already been taken to the hospital (don’t know if they survived or not – it looked survivable), there were blood stains/smears on the light-colored interior. Impressed me more than if someone just told me about it. In answer to Scott’s question, maybe we should show graphic pictures to our young drivers – anything to make them “think” about the frailness of life. When high-school kids have experienced first-hand the death of one of their own, they tend to slow down, at least for awhile. Telling my kids (all grown now) that as a 16-year old, if you are in a car and the driver is a teenager, that you have an 80% chance of dying (compared to a non-teenage driver) impressed them somewhat, but knowing kids at school who died really got their attention (stats are approx from my insurance company). I never did show them any graphic pictures – the internet wasn’t around much until the last child. And she’s in the Army now.

    To “flirt”: I was wondering the same thing, except I suppose to drain the blood. I think your point was how do you kill a dead chicken? Killing live animals? Should we knock ‘em out first ? At least they’ll be unconscious and won’t “feel” being killed.

    Beige : were you being facetious about “graphic photos of aborted babies” ? Not interested in a discussion – just your view. Although, I really love debating that topic. One of the local talk-show guys in ATL absolutely refuses to discuss it. Why is it that people that are pro-choice (we can’t use the terms pro-abortion or anti-life) always tend to be the ones that don’t want to discuss it?

  34. 34 Koka Aug 12th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    You’d be surprised at how many children AND adults have no idea how food is processed. DISCLAIMER…..I AM NOT arguing that people need to watch slaughter videos….I’m just saying that there are slews of people, young and older, out there that think food comes wrapped in plastic/cardboard and magically lands in the coolers/freezers/shelves at the store.

    Its hilarious when we have certain individual buyers call us wanting a calf/steer/goat for meat. We always ask do they want to come see the animals to pick out what they think is the meatiest. They say “NO!”, that they want us to pick one, load it up, take to the processor, and give the processor the name of whoever is going to pick up their little white packages.

    I love animals, and yes we have our pets in our livestock. BUT, humans are equipped with both meat eating teeth and plant eating teeth. And steaks are soooooooooooooooo good!

  35. 35 Beige Aug 12th, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    Actually, no. I wasn’t being facetious. I find it repellent that virtually everyone I’ve ever met who was vegan or stridently anti-meat was also shrilly pro-abortion. If you’re eating no meat for the sake of your own health or squeamishness, whatever, fine. But if you’re all “Spare the animals, it’s so mean and ICKY”, then WTF?

    I’m actually not one of the protesters who holds up graphic signs, but I find it odd that people who have no problem with terrorizing little kids for eating chicken, would be shocked and distraught to see their own tactics and logic used for a different cause. To them, human infants are not nearly as innocent or valuable or worthy of protection as a f**king chicken. And that’s asinine beyond description.

  36. 36 Minnow Aug 12th, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    …there are slews of people, young and older, out there that think food comes wrapped in plastic/cardboard and magically lands in the coolers/freezers/shelves at the store.

    Totally true, Koka.

    Where I call foul is when someone decides to take it upon themselves to educate my children for me.

    My children know where meat comes from. They understand because they scale the fish they catch, helped carry the deer into the processors, and see cows grazing in the pasture behind our local dairy. It was my choice as a parent to raise my children to celebrate the wild turkey on our table as much as the tomatoes from our garden.

    But I live in a semi-rural area of the midwest; we live pretty close to nature. I can’t shout “dumbass” at someone from New York city who only sees animals in the zoo and only the plants which sprout between the cracks in the sidewalk. I’ll bet that guy made sure to educate his children on how to avoid ending up in the ghetto at midnight in tranny sequins.

    Education should be specific to the enviroment one comes from. As a parent, I’m a far better judge of what my childen need to know than the idiot in the chicken suit outside McDonalds.

    We live in a time of interconnection and specialization. That’s a very good thing. I don’t have to know how to install brake rotors to drive a car. You don’t have to understand typeface design to read a book. And nobody should be forced to pick out the steer before ordering a Big Mac.

    I’m not saying that knowledge isn’t a great thing; I’m saying that the free time I have, right now, to blather away on the internet is because of the fact that I don’t have to hide in the tall grass waiting for my dinner to walk by.

    And that’s just fine.

  37. 37 Minnow Aug 12th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    The Ronald McDonald is apparently at least 30% different with that big ass grin and big ass knife.

    I don’t remember the 30% rule, but it makes perfect sense and feeds back to Saro’s “reasonable person” standard. The M with the chicken parts isn’t reasonably mistakable, but I’d argue that Ronald the Ripper falls into the same category as the Calvin Peeing On Stuff window stickers, totally suitworthy.

    Maybe McDonalds should slap a PETa’s Favorite Sandwich! sticker on every Quarter Pounder.

    That’s about 30% different, right?

  38. 38 California Dave Aug 12th, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    Ya know, it just occurred to me: PeTA hates me. Not me specifically, but the kind of person I am.

    I am an overweight carnivore (I have been losing weight to the point where my work pants are sliding down some, but I do have a large gut that won’t go away).

    I not only eat chicken and fish (baked instead of fried, if possible) but I do have the occasional hamburger.

    I know where meat comes from – I just choose not to look at it as it’s processed.

    I have not one but TWO pet cats; the fact the both are rescues (one from a shelter and one neighborhood feral who got hit by a car and came to my door) mean nothing. Oh, and when all is said and done, the repair bill for the rescue will likely top $4k in vet bills – but so what, animals aren’t supposed to be pets.

    I wear Reebok shoes – made with leather.

    I believe animals were meant to serve Man, but we should respect the ones that become our food.

    So because of all that and more…PeTA hates me.

    And I don’t give a damn.

  39. 39 Koka Aug 12th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Oh, I agree with you completely, Minnow. I am not about to educate kids with graphic stories/pictures/organizing a butchering field trip on where meat comes from. No way in hell would I do that for anyone. I was talking about those who shriek how bad it is to kill an animal, but will not acknowledge that they also like to eat meat from that same animal. Its the parents’ job to enlighten their children, not mine.

  40. 40 Anna Aug 12th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    As a wee psych student, I was repeatedly informed of the intensely traumatic effect that violence can have on children. Unless they grow up with it as a part of everyday life (as many of my neighbors and relatives have, and I did as well), exposing children to an animal being butchered is a very bad idea; they’re usually much too young to learn anything but fear. It’s like taking a young kid to a funeral: death itself is a necessary thing, and it’s not evil, but it’s too overwhelming to comprehend until they’re older. PETA is obviously less concerned about parental rights and developmental boundaries. They care far more about making children upset before they’re old enough to think for themselves.

    They’re not the only ones, either– witness the steady rise of indoctrinating children’s books, from Carl Hiaasen’s “Hoot” to “The O’Reilly Factor for Kids.” Or the little baby rompers and toddler T-shirts that say things like “Another Toddler For Choice” or “I’m So Glad My Mommy Didn’t Abort Me.” I hope every kid used as a political statement grows up to clobber his/her parents for being so sanctimonious and self-absorbed.

  41. 41 KC Aug 13th, 2009 at 11:30 am

    Beige, I had exactly the same thought about abortion protesters, although I was turning it on its head a little. I’m pro-life myself and have even done class presentations showing pictures of aborted fetuses in the past (granted, today I probably would be a little less bold about those and agree now they are a little bit much). But yeah, I guess what I’m saying is, does it make sense for pro-life protesters to argue against campaigns such as these? You could argue that animals aren’t the same as human fetuses, but I’m sure PeTA would argue that yes, they are. And for most pro-choice people, fetuses aren’t human. So doesn’t the argument collapse there a little?

    I eat meat and have no problems with it, and I think PeTA is stupid and hypocritical, especially considering all the pets they’ve slaughtered in the past and their stupid support of Pammy and her leather seats. I also think it’s awful they’re targeting children with this campaign.

    But yeah, I guess I was just playing devil’s advocate a little in my mind and wondering how a pro-lifer would be able to defend against a PeTArd’s argument that it’s the same thing as showing aborted fetuses? I suppose it’s a little like the age-old, “Hey, how can you be pro-life and also pro-gun and pro-capital punishment?” although I know it’s different to argue between hardened criminals and defenceless babies (or chickens).

  42. 42 Beige Aug 13th, 2009 at 11:47 am

    KC, I see what you’re saying–and this is why I do not use graphic imagery when I protest. Nor do I sling mud or insults at the women involved, not only because it’s repulsive to me personally to do so, and beside the point, but b/c that is THE. LAST. way to persuade anyone of anything. If PETA really thinks they’re changing minds with their sanctimonious, hypocritical BS, they’re right–but not in the way they hope.

  43. 43 Jannah Aug 13th, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    Great points here!

    It continually amazes me how Peta always forgets that the word “ethical” is in their name. Sheesh.

  44. 44 Shari Aug 13th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    PETA are awesome. Murdering animals is real life – so everyone ought to know about it. Why does it need to be covered up just so some people don’t feel guilty about eating slaughtered animals? If I could go back to my childhood I’d much rather have found out about animal cruelty back then than not informed. PETA – Keep up the good work!

  45. 45 Beige Aug 13th, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    Aren’t you supposed to be sweltering in a chicken suit somewhere?

  46. 46 Mariel Aug 14th, 2009 at 1:20 am

    These Petards were targetting my little cousin on her way home from school once.

    I went and got us each a happy meal, then we ate them in front of the Petards :)

  47. 47 Mariel Aug 14th, 2009 at 1:21 am

    Oh, and Shari, do your goddamned research before you comment.
    Petards are complete and utter hypocrites, along with being extremist eco-terrorists.

  48. 48 Crow Jane Aug 14th, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    Shari, you know who really needs to be informed about cruelty to animals? Bikers. Big burly bikers. All that leather, all those poor cows. Why don’t you and a couple other Peta heads go to Sturgis and protest? Or are you only capable of screaming at five year olds?

  49. 49 Beige Aug 14th, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    Crow Jane, it’s not nice to pick on people with no common sense. ;) But you sure are good at it. I heart you.

  50. 50 Angry Army Wife Aug 14th, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    Beige, does that mean I have to stop picking on Obama and his whole administration? cAuse that is kindof fun :)

  51. 51 Beige Aug 14th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    We all need a hobby, baby.

  52. 52 haley Aug 14th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    What really gets me is that PETA has the audacity to do something as idiotic as this and then go and say that the kids need to know the truth. Sure, it’s not wrong to tell the truth, but it is wrong when you are tossing buckets full of blood at five year olds. What can they do about this whole “Cruelty” thing? Will they even think about animal rights when they see this mess? Of course not! It only terrorizes them and does no good. PETA talks about cruelty as if they are cruelty-free angels when it is cruel that they’d even think about scaring kids in this manner. They are such hypocrites with it too!! PETA tells everyone about all the atrocities commited by meat-markets when they don’t even mention their own. Euthanizing perfectly healthy dogs and puppies, throwing them in dumpsters all because they don’t feel like caring for them, and that’s not even half of everything they do!! This is the last group of people that I want to get a cruelty-lesson from when they do it all the time!!!! I am tired of PETA and all of its sick stunts to try and convert people to their beliefs. I will eat McDonald’s and chicken forever and if there is a more humane way to treat chickens during this process then let’s do it, don’t make their last hours miserable!! But please, PETA can deal with it more maturely than this!!!

  53. 53 haley Aug 14th, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    i dare them to do this at a McDonald’s near me…

  54. 54 hughjeffincock Aug 16th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    As I’m sure you all know, some of our most beloved animals are not native to the Americas. Horses, cows, chickens, pigs, and a whole slew of game animals were brought to this country for sustenance. I am for deporting these animals back to their country of origin. Not only are they taking up valuable space for growing delicious veggies, the methane they produce is one of the largest contributors to global warming. I have a plan to set up collection centers all over the country where we could gather up all of these animals to wait for deportation. I would call these centers “farms”. While at the farms we could use the animals to work to ease the burden of growing and harvesting the delicious vegetables we all enjoy. The animals who are weak or infirm would be euthanized and used as fertilizer. Or we could use them as feed for their counterparts. After we have found funding to ship the animals back to their home countries we would have to make sure that their new hosts integrate them into their society so they will become productive members of the economy. They could be used for livestock, labor, who knows maybe the smart ones could find jobs in the medical field. We would not want them to just be “free range” animals because they would become a nuisance. You know the kind, the ones who don’t want to forage and view commercial vegetation operations as easy targets to plunder. Just some thought to ponder while you are “enjoying” a tasty tofu burger.

  55. 55 Maria Aug 17th, 2009 at 3:10 am

    Kind of makes me want some Mcnuggets

  56. 56 Pearce Aug 19th, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    1. Anna, one of my very first memories is of going to my grandfather’s funeral. One of my parents carried me over to the open casket, and I touched his face. I still remember how weird and cold it was. I now add this memory to my list of excuses for being a nutcase.

    2. I totally think McDonald’s should change its packaging now. I would SO love to purchase a Chicken McCruelty. In fact, I would probably start eating there every day if they had McDonald the Ripper on all of their boxes.

  57. 57 Suzanne Aug 19th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    PETA promotes animal rights while advocating child abuse? Is social services keeping tabs on them?

  58. 58 TrojanPrincess Sep 21st, 2009 at 3:25 pm

    Hey, everyone! Get your free “Evil Ronald” masks now: http://www.mccruelty.com/ActionPackRonaldMask.aspx you’ll also receive a kit that includes stickers, petitions and leaflets. Guess they couldn’t give enough away at the live demonstration.

  59. 59 Jamie Oct 20th, 2009 at 10:55 am

    So my grandfather had a small beef-cattle farm when I was little. He was a crazy old Irishman; he named calves after his grandchildren (or at any rate told us that they were named after us), so that when the calves grew up and were eventually slaughtered and processed, he could send my parents home with a nice big cooler full of Jamie. Twisted… but he was a funny guy all the same.

    We have a neighbor whose younger son, middle-school-aged, is a strict philosophical vegetarian (oh right, except for fish, which mysteriously swim about and do not photosynthesize, yet are plants, evidently), to the great inconvenience of his family. He also uses up bunches of my middle-school-aged son’s phone minutes/texts with texts about McDonald’s horrible cruelty and how eating meat means you’re “rotting inside” and so forth. Being a glass-half-full kind of person, I look at these texts as an opportunity to educate my children about Christian (i.e. one-way) tolerance, proper social (i.e. two-way) tolerance, and the sometime need to cultivate sympathy for those whose passion vastly outstrips their ability to reason or to be persuasive. The vegetarian kid is a nice boy; I like him a lot. And eventually he’ll realize that haranguing his peers works less well than convincing them, if he REALLY wants to change their minds – but it’s my private bet (I don’t tell my own son this – he’s friends with the boy and I’m already skating close to the edge with implying to my boy that he has grounds to feel sorry for his friend) that the vegetarian boy’s vegetarianism is grounded more in feeling superior to his peers than in concern for animals.

  60. 60 Beige Oct 20th, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    I’m thinkin’ they should find some sort of promotional tie-in with Stephen King’s “It” (or maybe “Zombieland”) and these Unhappy Meal things.

    “Look, Mommy! I got a Pennywise! I GOT A PENNYWISE!”

    “That’s nice, dear. Eat your McMurder.”

  61. 61 Johninator Oct 29th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    From the link TrojanPrincess submitted

    “Providing a business shipping address will save PETA money.”

    Because heaven knows they couldn’t spare five bucks to ship it to you, they need all that money to pour into their ingenious and oh-so-well-done campaigns.

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