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		<title>By: Livewire</title>
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		<description>John Travolta........

What about your oldest daughter, Ava Travolta ? 
Also known as Heather... !!!!
Or your Grandson, Seth ?

What about them..... There nothing ???
You fail to speak of/ or mention/promote them ???? 

Not to mention, talk to them, even.... Not excepting her calls/letters etc !!!!
What, 
there not good enough to be cared about/loved,cherished like Ella. And be given nice things/beautiful things.... A nice life/home &#039;Future&#039;!!!

Your a true disgrace, John Travolta...

It&#039;s time, too....
Let the world see you. 
For whom you really are. And what your all about !!!!

Some of your children are being given everything and anything. And your other children are 
What !!!! Cr@p.....

Ella is deserving, but not your other children... ???? 

Cause what, there not Kelly Prestons children ???

What &#039;Bu!!-Shi!&#039;

I&#039;m sorry.... But, what about your other &#039;Biological children&#039;/&#039;Family....

Care to comment....... John ?

Cause i&#039;d love to here, what you would have to say to your friends, not to mention &#039;Fans&#039; !!!!
about this.....
I think it&#039;s about time, you stopped lying to yourself and your public/fans etc....

Your tactics, underline the word &#039;Nastee&#039; !!!

You know the daughter i&#039;m speaking of.... 

Umm, Hmmmmmmmmmm ???? Let me refresh your memory.....

The one that you and all your friends tourmented in 1978, 79 &amp; 80. And treated like the dirt underneath your toe nails, 
The one you tried to make/feel discusted about her own &#039;Being&#039;/&#039;inner-self&#039; !!!

Repeativly calling her names. And trying your hardest to convince her, that she was/is... know good !! Just not good enough... And called Autistic/etc... For years !!!! 
This vicious rumor was not only created by him. He made sure it was kept up for years..... 
Eventually, expressing to her, that she should kill her-self. Cause Scientology, believes that... If you are not born perfect. That you should kill your-self. And come back a &#039;Whole&#039; perfect person !!!!
Making her want to commit sucide.... 
And actually attempted to do so..... At one point in her life time !!!
And if thats the case, then.... You should take some of your own advice. Figurativly speaking, the fruit doesn&#039;t fall far from the tree.... A**-Hole !!!!
You know the one i&#039;m speaking of, the one that you ignored completly.....
And have, for well over thirty years.

Not even, &#039;One&#039; .99 cent birthday card....People !!!

As you went about your lavish life with Smelly Perspiration... A.K.A. Kelly Preston !!!!

Excuse me,, i&#039;m sorry 
People, 
This man is not as: 
Nice, Kind or Giving, as he would like you to believe..

He has, and had plenty of money.... There was know reason to treat his first born child, so terribly, after the age of eight years old. Not to mention, to try so hard, to make her go insane !!!!!
Thats &#039;Totally-Sick&#039; People !!!! The word &#039;ill&#039; comes to mind....

John Travolta, Smiled and giggled with glee. As he watched his first born child get thrown into the system. After loving her for the first eight years of her life.. He tossed her away, like she had never been born. And helped place her, in a &#039;Foster-Home&#039; She was, eventually, awarded to the state of NY, and was treated like a number, not even a name. And treated like shi!/beaten on... etc !!!!

As he and his wife &#039;Knew&#039; all along, and was and is enjoying themselvles !!!

And purposly, took it upon themselves too. Go about there &#039;Want-ta-be&#039; celeb-style lives. Living happily in there little &#039;Fairly-Tail&#039; world. Living there life and dreams out..... 

Living it up in the lap of luxery. Knowing Ava/Heather, was out there &#039;Some-Where&#039;, Totally hating life. 
In the surroundings in which she was placed, and had to live..... 
Knowing deep down, know one would believe a child. Thats been awarded to the court/state.
Automatically, people think/look down at ! 
I can see it now,,
A child, just trying to make unrealistic clams....etc !!!!

And,, One day.. hoping
Thinking that her infamous father, would come and get her, soon !!!! 
That soon, never happened.....

I guess he was to busy with his new life/lap of luxury, to even care !!!!!

Not so nice, People !!!! Not a nice thing to do, at all !!!

Oh, and one more thing....


Make-up, is for adults, not for little girls..... 

Why would you pile all that make-up. On a seven/eight year olds face... ?

I could see it, if she was a teenager, maybe ? But a little girl....

WTF, is wrong with you....


~~~~~~~~~~~~~Tastless.....

I tell ya !!! 

What are you wanting people to think ?

Get your morals/marbles...

~~~~~~~~~~~~Straight.... !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Travolta&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>What about your oldest daughter, Ava Travolta ?<br />
Also known as Heather&#8230; !!!!<br />
Or your Grandson, Seth ?</p>
<p>What about them&#8230;.. There nothing ???<br />
You fail to speak of/ or mention/promote them ???? </p>
<p>Not to mention, talk to them, even&#8230;. Not excepting her calls/letters etc !!!!<br />
What,<br />
there not good enough to be cared about/loved,cherished like Ella. And be given nice things/beautiful things&#8230;. A nice life/home &#8216;Future&#8217;!!!</p>
<p>Your a true disgrace, John Travolta&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time, too&#8230;.<br />
Let the world see you.<br />
For whom you really are. And what your all about !!!!</p>
<p>Some of your children are being given everything and anything. And your other children are<br />
What !!!! Cr@p&#8230;..</p>
<p>Ella is deserving, but not your other children&#8230; ???? </p>
<p>Cause what, there not Kelly Prestons children ???</p>
<p>What &#8216;Bu!!-Shi!&#8217;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry&#8230;. But, what about your other &#8216;Biological children&#8217;/'Family&#8230;.</p>
<p>Care to comment&#8230;&#8230;. John ?</p>
<p>Cause i&#8217;d love to here, what you would have to say to your friends, not to mention &#8216;Fans&#8217; !!!!<br />
about this&#8230;..<br />
I think it&#8217;s about time, you stopped lying to yourself and your public/fans etc&#8230;.</p>
<p>Your tactics, underline the word &#8216;Nastee&#8217; !!!</p>
<p>You know the daughter i&#8217;m speaking of&#8230;. </p>
<p>Umm, Hmmmmmmmmmm ???? Let me refresh your memory&#8230;..</p>
<p>The one that you and all your friends tourmented in 1978, 79 &amp; 80. And treated like the dirt underneath your toe nails,<br />
The one you tried to make/feel discusted about her own &#8216;Being&#8217;/'inner-self&#8217; !!!</p>
<p>Repeativly calling her names. And trying your hardest to convince her, that she was/is&#8230; know good !! Just not good enough&#8230; And called Autistic/etc&#8230; For years !!!!<br />
This vicious rumor was not only created by him. He made sure it was kept up for years&#8230;..<br />
Eventually, expressing to her, that she should kill her-self. Cause Scientology, believes that&#8230; If you are not born perfect. That you should kill your-self. And come back a &#8216;Whole&#8217; perfect person !!!!<br />
Making her want to commit sucide&#8230;.<br />
And actually attempted to do so&#8230;.. At one point in her life time !!!<br />
And if thats the case, then&#8230;. You should take some of your own advice. Figurativly speaking, the fruit doesn&#8217;t fall far from the tree&#8230;. A**-Hole !!!!<br />
You know the one i&#8217;m speaking of, the one that you ignored completly&#8230;..<br />
And have, for well over thirty years.</p>
<p>Not even, &#8216;One&#8217; .99 cent birthday card&#8230;.People !!!</p>
<p>As you went about your lavish life with Smelly Perspiration&#8230; A.K.A. Kelly Preston !!!!</p>
<p>Excuse me,, i&#8217;m sorry<br />
People,<br />
This man is not as:<br />
Nice, Kind or Giving, as he would like you to believe..</p>
<p>He has, and had plenty of money&#8230;. There was know reason to treat his first born child, so terribly, after the age of eight years old. Not to mention, to try so hard, to make her go insane !!!!!<br />
Thats &#8216;Totally-Sick&#8217; People !!!! The word &#8216;ill&#8217; comes to mind&#8230;.</p>
<p>John Travolta, Smiled and giggled with glee. As he watched his first born child get thrown into the system. After loving her for the first eight years of her life.. He tossed her away, like she had never been born. And helped place her, in a &#8216;Foster-Home&#8217; She was, eventually, awarded to the state of NY, and was treated like a number, not even a name. And treated like shi!/beaten on&#8230; etc !!!!</p>
<p>As he and his wife &#8216;Knew&#8217; all along, and was and is enjoying themselvles !!!</p>
<p>And purposly, took it upon themselves too. Go about there &#8216;Want-ta-be&#8217; celeb-style lives. Living happily in there little &#8216;Fairly-Tail&#8217; world. Living there life and dreams out&#8230;.. </p>
<p>Living it up in the lap of luxery. Knowing Ava/Heather, was out there &#8216;Some-Where&#8217;, Totally hating life.<br />
In the surroundings in which she was placed, and had to live&#8230;..<br />
Knowing deep down, know one would believe a child. Thats been awarded to the court/state.<br />
Automatically, people think/look down at !<br />
I can see it now,,<br />
A child, just trying to make unrealistic clams&#8230;.etc !!!!</p>
<p>And,, One day.. hoping<br />
Thinking that her infamous father, would come and get her, soon !!!!<br />
That soon, never happened&#8230;..</p>
<p>I guess he was to busy with his new life/lap of luxury, to even care !!!!!</p>
<p>Not so nice, People !!!! Not a nice thing to do, at all !!!</p>
<p>Oh, and one more thing&#8230;.</p>
<p>Make-up, is for adults, not for little girls&#8230;.. </p>
<p>Why would you pile all that make-up. On a seven/eight year olds face&#8230; ?</p>
<p>I could see it, if she was a teenager, maybe ? But a little girl&#8230;.</p>
<p>WTF, is wrong with you&#8230;.</p>
<p>~~~~~~~~~~~~~Tastless&#8230;..</p>
<p>I tell ya !!! </p>
<p>What are you wanting people to think ?</p>
<p>Get your morals/marbles&#8230;</p>
<p>~~~~~~~~~~~~Straight&#8230;. !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Livewire</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s nice to see that my father has shown his love, for his youngest daughter/child.....

It&#039;s too bad he &#039;Can&#039;t/Couldn&#039;t&#039; treat his other child/children the same way as her..... ? 

Must be nice, to feel wanted/loved too!!!!

Some times people only see. What you want them to see !!!!!!

But, not only does he have a 39yr old daughter, that he has never mentioned......

And more then likly.... never, will !!!!

He has also managed too..... &#039;Ignore-Completly&#039; !!!!!! For over thirty years..... Not &#039;One&#039; word !!!!!

Pretty much, through out her whole life.
Actually,,,
Through~out her life, since the age of eight yrs old !!!!! 
I was completly &#039;Abandoned&#039;...... Thrown into a foster~home. And treated terribly !!!!!

He also has a 14yr old &#039;Grand~Son...... 

Which he has know problem, ignoring as well....... Not so nice, people !!!!

And not only is it extremly hurtful..

It&#039;s a true &#039;Shame&#039; !!!!!!! And uncalled for, as~well.....

As he flies around all over, to one of his many homes...... Living in a lap of luxury......

Must be nice !!!!!

Promoting my little sister !!!! 

For the record.....
He should of wanted to help/love, all his children......


Instead of letting her be tossed away like a piece of &quot;Garbage&quot;.......

And &#039;Wow&#039;,,,,,
Now that i think about it. I was right around the same age as Ella....

When my &quot;Father and Kelly&quot;........

Took it upon them~selvles too treat me so unkindly........

And have managed to pass this info, down. Too there daughter..........

Not that i knew... who she was, at the time........ 

But, you don&#039;t have your little six year old. Come up to me. On my sons school grounds, and threaten me.... EVER !!!!

That was a big~time mistake.........

Father, make sure you keep your &#039;Bi!ches&#039; away from me......

Cause, most people don&#039;t take too nicly to being threatened in public !!!!

That wasn&#039;t a wise decision.... Kelly !!!

You or my father, have some~thing to say to me ?????? 
Then, come up to me. And say it your~selves....... To my face !!!!




November 11, 2009 11:50 PM
Posted by: Anonymous 
As a Father of an autistic son my son rocks! too bad he&#039;Can&#039;t/Couldn&#039;t&#039; treat his other child/children the same way as her! Shame! 




November 11, 2009 11:54 PM
Posted by: Anonymous 
Hope he goes under a rock and hides 4 ever! Great father Yea! Another whaco no meds cult dad! 




November 12, 2009 7:37 AM
Posted by: Witty 
I have never heard that John had another daughter,,,If this is true then shame....shame...shame..on him...If this is true...not doubting this young lady then I will boycott every movie this guy does or has done...To think that he would do this to his daughter and grandson makes me sick and angry..if he is to chicken sh_t to be part of her life physically then he damn should be finacially..I just can not say how this much this outrages me..God Bless her and her son...





November 12, 2009 7:54 AM
Posted by: emmerson 
Don&#039;t you think if this was true that every tabloid in the world would have uncovered it by now? A judge can order a DNA test - it&#039;s not like it can&#039;t be done, in fact, I will personally help the daughter get one ordered if she will contact me. 




November 12, 2009 1:59 PM
Posted by: Anonymous 
Oh please...you&#039;re going to believe the totally random ramblings of some stranger online about how this man is her father?!?! AND has a grand-child?? GET A GRIP people...
You never heard he had another child because he DOESN&#039;T. Mr Travolta has had TWO children in his life: his son and his daughter--that&#039;s it. There&#039;s no &#039;secret love child&#039; out there....




November 12, 2009 3:44 PM
Posted by: Anonymous 
He is also too young to have a 39 year old!!!! I&#039;m 56 and I know he is younger than I am, so she should have done her homework (math specifically) before posting something so outrageous!




November 12, 2009 5:18 PM
Posted by: Ava Travolta A.K.A. ~~~~Heather....... 
Ummm, Hmmmmmmmmmmm.......

&#039;Secret Love Child&#039;, Huh..........

Aaahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa !!!!!!!!!

That was cute...... 
But, what i said earlier.... Was know &#039;Joke&#039;!!!!

Ummm,,,
Sorry folks.......

More like,,,
John Travolta&#039;s ........

~~~~~~~~~~&#039;First~Born~Child&#039; !!!!!

And know,,,,
I&#039;m not willing too, fight or argue about this matter/issue !!!! If you have questions, then ask.....

I said it, cause.... It&#039;s true !!!!

This is, ~~~~~~~~~~Unfortunatly......
The way it is.... The &#039;Reality&#039; of &#039;My&#039; life...

And actually, has always been !!!! You just, were unaware of it..... Like most folk !!!!

There is a big difference,,,, between &#039;Fact and Fiction&#039;....... 

By chance, &#039;Anonumous&#039;.... 
Are you intellegent enough to understand the difference ??????

I&#039;m sorry..... That was rude of me........ 

But, so are you !!!

For &#039;Bashing&#039; me, and what i&#039;m trying to say or was trying to express.. in my first post....

Not to be hurtful...... But, your the one who needs too ((( GET~A~GRIP )))

This is not a matter of weather i am or not......K ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Get over it !!! Cause, I am...... Just exactly who i say i am.......

Maybe, it&#039;s that, you just don&#039;t like it ???? Or me, maybe.......

But,,,
Theres know &#039;Doubt&#039; about~it !!!!!

If by chance,,,
You are interested in viewing my photo&#039;s.... And seeing for your~selves, just exactly what i look like....

Then,,, go right ahead and be my guest!!!!

I have opened up a &#039;Myspace&#039; page..... Actually,,,
About a year or so, ago...

Just for this reason.......

It&#039;s listed under Heather Travolta...
under the myspace home page heading, under~lining &#039;People&#039; !!!!

I opened this page.... So, you can take a tiny peek of me. And what i looked like &#039;periodically&#039; through out my whole life !!!!!

The ones of me in a mans penaltin long~sleeve shirt, on the second page. Are the most recent.....


I will be 40, next May, Peeps.....

They say, seeing is believing......

I &#039;know&#039; who i am... !!!! And so does my &#039;Father&#039;....... 

And for that matter, so does his wife....... And all there friends !!!!!

John Travolta&#039;s grandson&#039;s name is Seth........

He is 5&#039;6&quot; 145/150lbs...... Blonde &#039;Straight&#039; hair..... thats deepening with age.... 
And the most &#039;Beautiful&#039; Blue eyes, ever !!!!!

I am a very &#039;Proud&#039; Mother.... 
And my son, lights up my life...... 

Witty..... I read your post, and wanted to &#039;Thank~You&#039;!!!!

~~~~~~~For Blessing my son and i......

That was a really nice thing to say.......... Hugs &#039;People&#039; =)




November 12, 2009 5:26 PM
Posted by: Anonymous 
Do the math, Huh....... 

Your smarter then i had expected
&quot;Anonumous&quot;

My &#039;Father&#039; was under age, when i was conceived....... 

And is it possible....... Yes !!!!!

I was born in 1970 NY, NY.....




November 12, 2009 5:49 PM
Posted by: Ava Travolta A.K.A. ~~~~Heather.... 
Ooops, that last post was mine...... Peeps !!!!! Forgot too put my heading in......... ? 




November 12, 2009 7:06 PM
Posted by: Anonymous 
The words DELUSIONAL and SOON TO BE STALKER comes to mind when reading &quot;Ava Travolta&#039;s&quot; post




November 12, 2009 10:36 PM
Posted by: Ava Travolta A.K.A. ~~~~Heather..... 
The words &quot;Sticks n Stones&quot; comes to my mind !!!!! When reading &#039;Yours&#039; !!!!

Get over your~self, and do both of us a favor.......

~~~~~~~~~~~~And, Wake up !!!!


Emmerson, good post...... And you have wise questions !!!!!
And yes, ((( DNA ))) never lies..... And the results would clear the air up.

But what would be the point ? 
When i&#039;m sure of who i am ?

And i&#039;m not sure a judge can even order one, after the age of 18 ?

And yes, you would assume &#039;Tabloids&#039; would eat it up........

But, thats really not what this is really all about !!!!!!

Can&#039;t say i&#039;ve even looked into it, or want too !!!!!!

My son would like me too.........

Have him take a &#039;DNA&#039; that is !!!!!




November 13, 2009 9:16 AM
Posted by: Nina 
Ava &quot;Travolta&quot; WHY are you doing this??? Do you really count on maybe ANYONE at all falling for your dumb ass story to offer you anything....even a hug?? WTF is wrong with you. So you waited ALLLLLLL these years to post something ignorant like this. Grow up and learn something very important- RESPECT! 




November 13, 2009 6:16 PM
Posted by: Anonymous 
Nina......

Did you know.... Respect, is normally something that you earn.....in life!!!!

But for a parent, it&#039;s expected from there children/child !!!!!!!!!

And for the record...... 
It was &#039;Giv&#039;en&#039; !!!!! 
In ample amounts(((&#039;CHUNKS&#039;))) even !!!!!
Too...... not only my father, But his ugly~Ass wife as well..... A.K.A. &quot;Smelly~Perspiration&quot; !!!!

~~~~~~One Nastee, Greedy~Ass, C@nt~Crack.....
So,,,
Despite, the abuse i had endured as a little-one......from him and her, and all there friends. 
And any~one else, they could muster~up!!!! 
And what they forced me to have too &#039;Endure&#039; Through out my whole entire childhood/life was very wrong of them !!!!!!!! 
And for the record..... still, very much &#039;IS&#039; !!!!
As they went on, and are still... going on......!!!

Like i was never even born !!! Like, i don&#039;t exist at all. And never did and don&#039;t matter !!!
As they went off. Living in there little fairy~Tail&#039; World !!! 
Living in the lap of luxury !!! Hiding behind a word..... &quot;Scientology&quot; !!!!
Knowing, deep~down.... That i was out there..... &#039;Some~where&#039; hating life !!!!!
I loved my father &#039;Dearly&#039;....... you &#039;Bi!ch&#039;.... 
How dare you refer to my &#039;LIFE&#039; as just some &#039;Dumb~Ass&#039; story ?
I placed my father on a pedistol, if you must know !!!!
It&#039;s just,,,,
The &#039;LOVE&#039;/ &#039;RESPECT&#039;..... That you supposedly speak of: 
It &#039;Just&#039; was never returned... ????


Ever !!!!!

You have no-clue...... About what your speaking of, or about !!!! 

And personally, have know right to view my life.... As some &#039;Dumb~Ass&#039; story, either !!!!

Offer me somthing.... ?????? Aaaahahahahaahahhaahahahahahaaaaa !!!!

Who is this....... kelly ?

You discusting &#039;Sc@nky&#039; Bi!ch...... Not every~thing revolves around your &#039;MONEY&#039; !!!!! Or excuse me, let me rephase....... My &#039;Daddies&#039;..... &#039;MONEY&#039; !!!!! 
But father.....
There somethings in life, your money just can&#039;t buy......


And thats where this is at !!!!

You speaking negativly of me, is not right..... But, you really, don&#039;t know all the facts...... Either !!! So, i&#039;ll give you that.... 

But, only that !!!! 

Your brain, reminds me of a bag of rocks, girl~friend !!!!
You seem to know... So much about a subject. That you really know nothing at~all about!!!!

Do your~self a big favor, and &#039;Shut~Up&#039; !!!! 

````````````````````You &#039;Bi!ch....








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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s nice to see that my father has shown his love, for his youngest daughter/child&#8230;..</p>
<p>It&#8217;s too bad he &#8216;Can&#8217;t/Couldn&#8217;t&#8217; treat his other child/children the same way as her&#8230;.. ? </p>
<p>Must be nice, to feel wanted/loved too!!!!</p>
<p>Some times people only see. What you want them to see !!!!!!</p>
<p>But, not only does he have a 39yr old daughter, that he has never mentioned&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>And more then likly&#8230;. never, will !!!!</p>
<p>He has also managed too&#8230;.. &#8216;Ignore-Completly&#8217; !!!!!! For over thirty years&#8230;.. Not &#8216;One&#8217; word !!!!!</p>
<p>Pretty much, through out her whole life.<br />
Actually,,,<br />
Through~out her life, since the age of eight yrs old !!!!!<br />
I was completly &#8216;Abandoned&#8217;&#8230;&#8230; Thrown into a foster~home. And treated terribly !!!!!</p>
<p>He also has a 14yr old &#8216;Grand~Son&#8230;&#8230; </p>
<p>Which he has know problem, ignoring as well&#8230;&#8230;. Not so nice, people !!!!</p>
<p>And not only is it extremly hurtful..</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a true &#8216;Shame&#8217; !!!!!!! And uncalled for, as~well&#8230;..</p>
<p>As he flies around all over, to one of his many homes&#8230;&#8230; Living in a lap of luxury&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Must be nice !!!!!</p>
<p>Promoting my little sister !!!! </p>
<p>For the record&#8230;..<br />
He should of wanted to help/love, all his children&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Instead of letting her be tossed away like a piece of &#8220;Garbage&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>And &#8216;Wow&#8217;,,,,,<br />
Now that i think about it. I was right around the same age as Ella&#8230;.</p>
<p>When my &#8220;Father and Kelly&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Took it upon them~selvles too treat me so unkindly&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>And have managed to pass this info, down. Too there daughter&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Not that i knew&#8230; who she was, at the time&#8230;&#8230;.. </p>
<p>But, you don&#8217;t have your little six year old. Come up to me. On my sons school grounds, and threaten me&#8230;. EVER !!!!</p>
<p>That was a big~time mistake&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Father, make sure you keep your &#8216;Bi!ches&#8217; away from me&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Cause, most people don&#8217;t take too nicly to being threatened in public !!!!</p>
<p>That wasn&#8217;t a wise decision&#8230;. Kelly !!!</p>
<p>You or my father, have some~thing to say to me ??????<br />
Then, come up to me. And say it your~selves&#8230;&#8230;. To my face !!!!</p>
<p>November 11, 2009 11:50 PM<br />
Posted by: Anonymous<br />
As a Father of an autistic son my son rocks! too bad he&#8217;Can&#8217;t/Couldn&#8217;t&#8217; treat his other child/children the same way as her! Shame! </p>
<p>November 11, 2009 11:54 PM<br />
Posted by: Anonymous<br />
Hope he goes under a rock and hides 4 ever! Great father Yea! Another whaco no meds cult dad! </p>
<p>November 12, 2009 7:37 AM<br />
Posted by: Witty<br />
I have never heard that John had another daughter,,,If this is true then shame&#8230;.shame&#8230;shame..on him&#8230;If this is true&#8230;not doubting this young lady then I will boycott every movie this guy does or has done&#8230;To think that he would do this to his daughter and grandson makes me sick and angry..if he is to chicken sh_t to be part of her life physically then he damn should be finacially..I just can not say how this much this outrages me..God Bless her and her son&#8230;</p>
<p>November 12, 2009 7:54 AM<br />
Posted by: emmerson<br />
Don&#8217;t you think if this was true that every tabloid in the world would have uncovered it by now? A judge can order a DNA test &#8211; it&#8217;s not like it can&#8217;t be done, in fact, I will personally help the daughter get one ordered if she will contact me. </p>
<p>November 12, 2009 1:59 PM<br />
Posted by: Anonymous<br />
Oh please&#8230;you&#8217;re going to believe the totally random ramblings of some stranger online about how this man is her father?!?! AND has a grand-child?? GET A GRIP people&#8230;<br />
You never heard he had another child because he DOESN&#8217;T. Mr Travolta has had TWO children in his life: his son and his daughter&#8211;that&#8217;s it. There&#8217;s no &#8217;secret love child&#8217; out there&#8230;.</p>
<p>November 12, 2009 3:44 PM<br />
Posted by: Anonymous<br />
He is also too young to have a 39 year old!!!! I&#8217;m 56 and I know he is younger than I am, so she should have done her homework (math specifically) before posting something so outrageous!</p>
<p>November 12, 2009 5:18 PM<br />
Posted by: Ava Travolta A.K.A. ~~~~Heather&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
Ummm, Hmmmmmmmmmmm&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8216;Secret Love Child&#8217;, Huh&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Aaahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa !!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>That was cute&#8230;&#8230;<br />
But, what i said earlier&#8230;. Was know &#8216;Joke&#8217;!!!!</p>
<p>Ummm,,,<br />
Sorry folks&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>More like,,,<br />
John Travolta&#8217;s &#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>~~~~~~~~~~&#8217;First~Born~Child&#8217; !!!!!</p>
<p>And know,,,,<br />
I&#8217;m not willing too, fight or argue about this matter/issue !!!! If you have questions, then ask&#8230;..</p>
<p>I said it, cause&#8230;. It&#8217;s true !!!!</p>
<p>This is, ~~~~~~~~~~Unfortunatly&#8230;&#8230;<br />
The way it is&#8230;. The &#8216;Reality&#8217; of &#8216;My&#8217; life&#8230;</p>
<p>And actually, has always been !!!! You just, were unaware of it&#8230;.. Like most folk !!!!</p>
<p>There is a big difference,,,, between &#8216;Fact and Fiction&#8217;&#8230;&#8230;. </p>
<p>By chance, &#8216;Anonumous&#8217;&#8230;.<br />
Are you intellegent enough to understand the difference ??????</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry&#8230;.. That was rude of me&#8230;&#8230;.. </p>
<p>But, so are you !!!</p>
<p>For &#8216;Bashing&#8217; me, and what i&#8217;m trying to say or was trying to express.. in my first post&#8230;.</p>
<p>Not to be hurtful&#8230;&#8230; But, your the one who needs too ((( GET~A~GRIP )))</p>
<p>This is not a matter of weather i am or not&#8230;&#8230;K ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Get over it !!! Cause, I am&#8230;&#8230; Just exactly who i say i am&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Maybe, it&#8217;s that, you just don&#8217;t like it ???? Or me, maybe&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>But,,,<br />
Theres know &#8216;Doubt&#8217; about~it !!!!!</p>
<p>If by chance,,,<br />
You are interested in viewing my photo&#8217;s&#8230;. And seeing for your~selves, just exactly what i look like&#8230;.</p>
<p>Then,,, go right ahead and be my guest!!!!</p>
<p>I have opened up a &#8216;Myspace&#8217; page&#8230;.. Actually,,,<br />
About a year or so, ago&#8230;</p>
<p>Just for this reason&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s listed under Heather Travolta&#8230;<br />
under the myspace home page heading, under~lining &#8216;People&#8217; !!!!</p>
<p>I opened this page&#8230;. So, you can take a tiny peek of me. And what i looked like &#8216;periodically&#8217; through out my whole life !!!!!</p>
<p>The ones of me in a mans penaltin long~sleeve shirt, on the second page. Are the most recent&#8230;..</p>
<p>I will be 40, next May, Peeps&#8230;..</p>
<p>They say, seeing is believing&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>I &#8216;know&#8217; who i am&#8230; !!!! And so does my &#8216;Father&#8217;&#8230;&#8230;. </p>
<p>And for that matter, so does his wife&#8230;&#8230;. And all there friends !!!!!</p>
<p>John Travolta&#8217;s grandson&#8217;s name is Seth&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>He is 5&#8242;6&#8243; 145/150lbs&#8230;&#8230; Blonde &#8216;Straight&#8217; hair&#8230;.. thats deepening with age&#8230;.<br />
And the most &#8216;Beautiful&#8217; Blue eyes, ever !!!!!</p>
<p>I am a very &#8216;Proud&#8217; Mother&#8230;.<br />
And my son, lights up my life&#8230;&#8230; </p>
<p>Witty&#8230;.. I read your post, and wanted to &#8216;Thank~You&#8217;!!!!</p>
<p>~~~~~~~For Blessing my son and i&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>That was a really nice thing to say&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. Hugs &#8216;People&#8217; =)</p>
<p>November 12, 2009 5:26 PM<br />
Posted by: Anonymous<br />
Do the math, Huh&#8230;&#8230;. </p>
<p>Your smarter then i had expected<br />
&#8220;Anonumous&#8221;</p>
<p>My &#8216;Father&#8217; was under age, when i was conceived&#8230;&#8230;. </p>
<p>And is it possible&#8230;&#8230;. Yes !!!!!</p>
<p>I was born in 1970 NY, NY&#8230;..</p>
<p>November 12, 2009 5:49 PM<br />
Posted by: Ava Travolta A.K.A. ~~~~Heather&#8230;.<br />
Ooops, that last post was mine&#8230;&#8230; Peeps !!!!! Forgot too put my heading in&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; ? </p>
<p>November 12, 2009 7:06 PM<br />
Posted by: Anonymous<br />
The words DELUSIONAL and SOON TO BE STALKER comes to mind when reading &#8220;Ava Travolta&#8217;s&#8221; post</p>
<p>November 12, 2009 10:36 PM<br />
Posted by: Ava Travolta A.K.A. ~~~~Heather&#8230;..<br />
The words &#8220;Sticks n Stones&#8221; comes to my mind !!!!! When reading &#8216;Yours&#8217; !!!!</p>
<p>Get over your~self, and do both of us a favor&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>~~~~~~~~~~~~And, Wake up !!!!</p>
<p>Emmerson, good post&#8230;&#8230; And you have wise questions !!!!!<br />
And yes, ((( DNA ))) never lies&#8230;.. And the results would clear the air up.</p>
<p>But what would be the point ?<br />
When i&#8217;m sure of who i am ?</p>
<p>And i&#8217;m not sure a judge can even order one, after the age of 18 ?</p>
<p>And yes, you would assume &#8216;Tabloids&#8217; would eat it up&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>But, thats really not what this is really all about !!!!!!</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t say i&#8217;ve even looked into it, or want too !!!!!!</p>
<p>My son would like me too&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Have him take a &#8216;DNA&#8217; that is !!!!!</p>
<p>November 13, 2009 9:16 AM<br />
Posted by: Nina<br />
Ava &#8220;Travolta&#8221; WHY are you doing this??? Do you really count on maybe ANYONE at all falling for your dumb ass story to offer you anything&#8230;.even a hug?? WTF is wrong with you. So you waited ALLLLLLL these years to post something ignorant like this. Grow up and learn something very important- RESPECT! </p>
<p>November 13, 2009 6:16 PM<br />
Posted by: Anonymous<br />
Nina&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Did you know&#8230;. Respect, is normally something that you earn&#8230;..in life!!!!</p>
<p>But for a parent, it&#8217;s expected from there children/child !!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>And for the record&#8230;&#8230;<br />
It was &#8216;Giv&#8217;en&#8217; !!!!!<br />
In ample amounts(((&#8216;CHUNKS&#8217;))) even !!!!!<br />
Too&#8230;&#8230; not only my father, But his ugly~Ass wife as well&#8230;.. A.K.A. &#8220;Smelly~Perspiration&#8221; !!!!</p>
<p>~~~~~~One Nastee, Greedy~Ass, C@nt~Crack&#8230;..<br />
So,,,<br />
Despite, the abuse i had endured as a little-one&#8230;&#8230;from him and her, and all there friends.<br />
And any~one else, they could muster~up!!!!<br />
And what they forced me to have too &#8216;Endure&#8217; Through out my whole entire childhood/life was very wrong of them !!!!!!!!<br />
And for the record&#8230;.. still, very much &#8216;IS&#8217; !!!!<br />
As they went on, and are still&#8230; going on&#8230;&#8230;!!!</p>
<p>Like i was never even born !!! Like, i don&#8217;t exist at all. And never did and don&#8217;t matter !!!<br />
As they went off. Living in there little fairy~Tail&#8217; World !!!<br />
Living in the lap of luxury !!! Hiding behind a word&#8230;.. &#8220;Scientology&#8221; !!!!<br />
Knowing, deep~down&#8230;. That i was out there&#8230;.. &#8216;Some~where&#8217; hating life !!!!!<br />
I loved my father &#8216;Dearly&#8217;&#8230;&#8230;. you &#8216;Bi!ch&#8217;&#8230;.<br />
How dare you refer to my &#8216;LIFE&#8217; as just some &#8216;Dumb~Ass&#8217; story ?<br />
I placed my father on a pedistol, if you must know !!!!<br />
It&#8217;s just,,,,<br />
The &#8216;LOVE&#8217;/ &#8216;RESPECT&#8217;&#8230;.. That you supposedly speak of:<br />
It &#8216;Just&#8217; was never returned&#8230; ????</p>
<p>Ever !!!!!</p>
<p>You have no-clue&#8230;&#8230; About what your speaking of, or about !!!! </p>
<p>And personally, have know right to view my life&#8230;. As some &#8216;Dumb~Ass&#8217; story, either !!!!</p>
<p>Offer me somthing&#8230;. ?????? Aaaahahahahaahahhaahahahahahaaaaa !!!!</p>
<p>Who is this&#8230;&#8230;. kelly ?</p>
<p>You discusting &#8216;Sc@nky&#8217; Bi!ch&#8230;&#8230; Not every~thing revolves around your &#8216;MONEY&#8217; !!!!! Or excuse me, let me rephase&#8230;&#8230;. My &#8216;Daddies&#8217;&#8230;.. &#8216;MONEY&#8217; !!!!!<br />
But father&#8230;..<br />
There somethings in life, your money just can&#8217;t buy&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>And thats where this is at !!!!</p>
<p>You speaking negativly of me, is not right&#8230;.. But, you really, don&#8217;t know all the facts&#8230;&#8230; Either !!! So, i&#8217;ll give you that&#8230;. </p>
<p>But, only that !!!! </p>
<p>Your brain, reminds me of a bag of rocks, girl~friend !!!!<br />
You seem to know&#8230; So much about a subject. That you really know nothing at~all about!!!!</p>
<p>Do your~self a big favor, and &#8216;Shut~Up&#8217; !!!! </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8220;&#8220;&#8220;&#8220;&#8220;&#8220;&#8220;&#8220;&#8220;You &#8216;Bi!ch&#8230;.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Owitzia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D---

I feel for you, and that&#039;s why I have a hard time judging John Travolta too harshly.  My sister has some ridiculous health problems that have been getting misdiagnosed and mistreated for years.  I don&#039;t even know what the heck she has.  The doctors said she had migraines and some learning disability and we should do abc to treat that.  Then they said she had asthma and something else and had to be on medication xyz.  Then some new doctor said the old doctors were idiots and she needed heart surgery.  My mom and I know the frustration of having random outsiders tell you, oh, well just do this to treat it; problem solved.  (As if my mother hadn&#039;t taken my sis to a million and one doctors and followed all of their advice.  I keep expecting her to just blow up one of these days when someone gives her more silly advice.  &quot;Oh, take her to a doctor?  Gee, never thought of that one!  I&#039;ve just been hoping she&#039;d get better on her own!&quot;)

I believe Scientology&#039;s position on psychiatry is wrong.  I believe Jett probably should have been working with a psychologist to better function with autism.  Still, as I say that, I can&#039;t help but feel like one of the idiots that told my mother she just needed to go to Dr. Bob and everything would be fixed, because truth be told, I don&#039;t know the Travoltas.  I don&#039;t know why their son was treated in that way or even whether he was actually getting more treatment than we know about.  Maybe there was more to it than the xinu thing.</description>
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<p>I feel for you, and that&#8217;s why I have a hard time judging John Travolta too harshly.  My sister has some ridiculous health problems that have been getting misdiagnosed and mistreated for years.  I don&#8217;t even know what the heck she has.  The doctors said she had migraines and some learning disability and we should do abc to treat that.  Then they said she had asthma and something else and had to be on medication xyz.  Then some new doctor said the old doctors were idiots and she needed heart surgery.  My mom and I know the frustration of having random outsiders tell you, oh, well just do this to treat it; problem solved.  (As if my mother hadn&#8217;t taken my sis to a million and one doctors and followed all of their advice.  I keep expecting her to just blow up one of these days when someone gives her more silly advice.  &#8220;Oh, take her to a doctor?  Gee, never thought of that one!  I&#8217;ve just been hoping she&#8217;d get better on her own!&#8221;)</p>
<p>I believe Scientology&#8217;s position on psychiatry is wrong.  I believe Jett probably should have been working with a psychologist to better function with autism.  Still, as I say that, I can&#8217;t help but feel like one of the idiots that told my mother she just needed to go to Dr. Bob and everything would be fixed, because truth be told, I don&#8217;t know the Travoltas.  I don&#8217;t know why their son was treated in that way or even whether he was actually getting more treatment than we know about.  Maybe there was more to it than the xinu thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Minnow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d totally kill for an edit button.

&lt;i&gt;Internet Trite&lt;/i&gt;????  Internet Tripe.

Trite is certainly apropos, possibly even Freudian, but a steaming bowl of cow innards is really the mental picture I was projecting.

There, now I don&#039;t have to stew about a typo all day.</description>
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<p><i>Internet Trite</i>????  Internet Tripe.</p>
<p>Trite is certainly apropos, possibly even Freudian, but a steaming bowl of cow innards is really the mental picture I was projecting.</p>
<p>There, now I don&#8217;t have to stew about a typo all day.</p>
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		<title>By: Minnow</title>
		<link>http://deceiver.com/2009/11/09/scientology-helps-john-travolta-deal-with-sons-death-from-condition-not-recognized-by-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-42024</link>
		<dc:creator>Minnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So you can stand there and say I “know” so and so who does this or someone else does that but until it is your child and you life with it every day, shut up! You don’t “know”, you can’t “know” the anguish, the desperation, the dashed false hopes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

D: I&#039;ve always thought we got along rather well here so I&#039;m genuinely sad to see you take any statement as a personal attack on you.  The topic of this thread is the John Travolta situation.  What happens in your personal life never entered the conversation until you suddenly leaped upon the medal podium to claim gold medal martyr status.

And frankly, you don&#039;t have the foggiest idea about what I know and what I don&#039;t know.  You have no idea how many burdens any of us carry or how heavy they are.  Remove the tree branch from your eye, dude.

I have no first hand experience with autism so I cited my source of information, allowing readers to self-assess its value.  That&#039;s how honest conversations work.  Would you rather I fluff my resume and spout ?  Do I have to drown in a peat bog before I can warn you to tread lightly?

Should you care to discuss something I have firsthand knowledge of, I&#039;ll happily cite my own experience.  And unlike you, I&#039;ll cite it right away so that nobody is slapped in the face with the kind of holier than thou brimstone rant which you just hurled my way.  

Seriously, it&#039;s total Internet Trite for you to anonymously post here and then suddenly get all huffy because we accidentally stepped on an issue close to your heart.  Shall we all just shut down right now before we insult your love of cross-eyed llama hurling too?

Damn, D.  With one post you shot to hades your personna as a reasoned poster who could be counted on for interesting and relavent information.

And no, &lt;i&gt;sorry about the rant, sore subject&lt;/i&gt; doesn&#039;t erase the offense.  If you really felt sorry, you wouldn&#039;t have hit submit.</description>
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<p>D: I&#8217;ve always thought we got along rather well here so I&#8217;m genuinely sad to see you take any statement as a personal attack on you.  The topic of this thread is the John Travolta situation.  What happens in your personal life never entered the conversation until you suddenly leaped upon the medal podium to claim gold medal martyr status.</p>
<p>And frankly, you don&#8217;t have the foggiest idea about what I know and what I don&#8217;t know.  You have no idea how many burdens any of us carry or how heavy they are.  Remove the tree branch from your eye, dude.</p>
<p>I have no first hand experience with autism so I cited my source of information, allowing readers to self-assess its value.  That&#8217;s how honest conversations work.  Would you rather I fluff my resume and spout ?  Do I have to drown in a peat bog before I can warn you to tread lightly?</p>
<p>Should you care to discuss something I have firsthand knowledge of, I&#8217;ll happily cite my own experience.  And unlike you, I&#8217;ll cite it right away so that nobody is slapped in the face with the kind of holier than thou brimstone rant which you just hurled my way.  </p>
<p>Seriously, it&#8217;s total Internet Trite for you to anonymously post here and then suddenly get all huffy because we accidentally stepped on an issue close to your heart.  Shall we all just shut down right now before we insult your love of cross-eyed llama hurling too?</p>
<p>Damn, D.  With one post you shot to hades your personna as a reasoned poster who could be counted on for interesting and relavent information.</p>
<p>And no, <i>sorry about the rant, sore subject</i> doesn&#8217;t erase the offense.  If you really felt sorry, you wouldn&#8217;t have hit submit.</p>
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		<title>By: Pearce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pearce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D---:

As someone with severe obsessive-compulsive disorder, I understand the frustration of people sticking their noses into your treatment choices - if one more person tells me to try St. John&#039;s Wort or melatonin or meditation or just take &quot;control&quot; of the situation, said individual is likely to be high-fived in the face with my fist.

I still think the Travoltas handled their son&#039;s autism poorly for an entire host of reasons, and I don&#039;t think they deserve much defending here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D&#8212;:</p>
<p>As someone with severe obsessive-compulsive disorder, I understand the frustration of people sticking their noses into your treatment choices &#8211; if one more person tells me to try St. John&#8217;s Wort or melatonin or meditation or just take &#8220;control&#8221; of the situation, said individual is likely to be high-fived in the face with my fist.</p>
<p>I still think the Travoltas handled their son&#8217;s autism poorly for an entire host of reasons, and I don&#8217;t think they deserve much defending here.</p>
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		<title>By: Jannah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Preston has done numerous seminars, protests, TV shows, etc., warning about the evils of psychiatry, medications, and all that in the past few years. So she has preached against psychiatry/psychology and medical treatments in favor of the Scientology methods for a while there, back when Scientology really made that first push with their celebs going out to get their anti-psychiatry/medication word around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Preston has done numerous seminars, protests, TV shows, etc., warning about the evils of psychiatry, medications, and all that in the past few years. So she has preached against psychiatry/psychology and medical treatments in favor of the Scientology methods for a while there, back when Scientology really made that first push with their celebs going out to get their anti-psychiatry/medication word around.</p>
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		<title>By: D---</title>
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		<dc:creator>D---</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if Travolta was that embarrased about his child he could have easily put him in a home. Hell, every other week someone wants to talk to me about it. And you know Minnow, he may not have wanted a whole army of people running around. You do not need 20 specialists if you have one good one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if Travolta was that embarrased about his child he could have easily put him in a home. Hell, every other week someone wants to talk to me about it. And you know Minnow, he may not have wanted a whole army of people running around. You do not need 20 specialists if you have one good one.</p>
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		<title>By: D---</title>
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		<dc:creator>D---</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Minnow - I am not saying he isn&#039;t a hypocrite but people on here are accusing him of not caring for his child or not getting him medical attention. That is not true. 

When it comes to children with disabilities (retarded, special needs...whatever), I could give a damn what other people do. My youngest daughter has a condition that has taken me over 10 years to find a diagnosis for...10 years of freaking tests and . I have rolodex with over 250 doctors and I stopped updating 4 years ago. I have been to the BEST medical facilities in the US and every doctor has gotten it wrong. The person who discovered what condition my daughter has was not a docter but my new wife (that was a holy crap moment). So you can stand there and say I &quot;know&quot; so and so who does this or someone else does that but until it is your child and you life with it every day, shut up! You don&#039;t &quot;know&quot;, you can&#039;t &quot;know&quot; the anguish, the desperation, the dashed false hopes. Hell I wish my daughter had autism, that would be a blessing. But those of us with children special needs live with the knowledge that the odds are we will out live our children due to accident or illness, one day we will stand crying over the grave of our child and second guess our entire lives. 

Sorry about the rant but a bit of a sore subject. People are always telling me how I should do this or that or what other people have done. As if I am to lazy or ignorant to go the extra mile for my kid. So Travolta gets a soft spot in my cold heart, is he a little crazy? Sure, but aren&#039;t we all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minnow &#8211; I am not saying he isn&#8217;t a hypocrite but people on here are accusing him of not caring for his child or not getting him medical attention. That is not true. </p>
<p>When it comes to children with disabilities (retarded, special needs&#8230;whatever), I could give a damn what other people do. My youngest daughter has a condition that has taken me over 10 years to find a diagnosis for&#8230;10 years of freaking tests and . I have rolodex with over 250 doctors and I stopped updating 4 years ago. I have been to the BEST medical facilities in the US and every doctor has gotten it wrong. The person who discovered what condition my daughter has was not a docter but my new wife (that was a holy crap moment). So you can stand there and say I &#8220;know&#8221; so and so who does this or someone else does that but until it is your child and you life with it every day, shut up! You don&#8217;t &#8220;know&#8221;, you can&#8217;t &#8220;know&#8221; the anguish, the desperation, the dashed false hopes. Hell I wish my daughter had autism, that would be a blessing. But those of us with children special needs live with the knowledge that the odds are we will out live our children due to accident or illness, one day we will stand crying over the grave of our child and second guess our entire lives. </p>
<p>Sorry about the rant but a bit of a sore subject. People are always telling me how I should do this or that or what other people have done. As if I am to lazy or ignorant to go the extra mile for my kid. So Travolta gets a soft spot in my cold heart, is he a little crazy? Sure, but aren&#8217;t we all.</p>
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		<title>By: Minnow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Judgemental group for not even trying to get their facts straight. Jett was on a Depokate and had been taking it for years. It had supposedly stopped being effective (not uncommon). So their son was not being neglected...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But D, you say that as if living with Autism was something as simple as slipping Jett a couple of pills every morning with his Lucky Charms.  And the public attitude of the family has consistently been: &lt;i&gt;The meds didn&#039;t work, c&#039;est la vie.  But hey, have you tried Muddyfield Organic Yogurt?&lt;/i&gt;

My neighbor has a 6 year old who was finally diagnosed this past summer with a mild form of Autism.  This monster of a disorder has dominated their family life since the child turned two.  He&#039;s been through a complete battery of tests twice over.  Genetic tests, MRI&#039;s, psychological, and more home &amp; school visits than you can count.

And that&#039;s just the start.  With as mild as his particular syndrome is, he has a full squadron of therapists following him around.  Speech therapy, physical therapy, occupational therapy... plus an emotional tutor to teach him to recognise emotion in others and how to properly respond.  That&#039;s OUTSIDE of school.  In school, there&#039;s a staff of a dozen who either work with him or follow his case, including from a para-pro who goes through the entire school day by his side.

And all Jett had was pills and a nanny?

I find it hard to believe that the Travolta family treated this child to the full spectrum of existing medical knowledge and yet kept it all under wraps from the press and church elders for what, 16 years?  They&#039;re each shooting 2 movies a year, he&#039;s flying jumbo jets to the Oprah Show, she&#039;s guest starring on every sappy NBC drama ever produced, and they&#039;re both promoting Zenuosity left and right when average parents of autistic children are having trouble squeezing a hot shower in between therapy appointments.

But never mind that.  Even if they silently treated their child to the best of standards of medicine, think of the wasted opportunity.

I&#039;m not a big proponent of awareness advocacy, because frankly, you can Walk For The Cure until your feet fall off and that&#039;s not gonna help the lab guy down in the windowless basement of Pfizer develop a damn thing.  But seriously, think of the good Travolta could have done for the world if he&#039;d come out and said &lt;i&gt;&quot;My kid has Autism and this is how you recognize the signs in your own toddler...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Now think of the good he could have done if he&#039;d come out and said &lt;i&gt;&quot;My kid has Autism and the Church of Scientology is full of crap.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Judgemental group for not even trying to get their facts straight. Jett was on a Depokate and had been taking it for years. It had supposedly stopped being effective (not uncommon). So their son was not being neglected&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>But D, you say that as if living with Autism was something as simple as slipping Jett a couple of pills every morning with his Lucky Charms.  And the public attitude of the family has consistently been: <i>The meds didn&#8217;t work, c&#8217;est la vie.  But hey, have you tried Muddyfield Organic Yogurt?</i></p>
<p>My neighbor has a 6 year old who was finally diagnosed this past summer with a mild form of Autism.  This monster of a disorder has dominated their family life since the child turned two.  He&#8217;s been through a complete battery of tests twice over.  Genetic tests, MRI&#8217;s, psychological, and more home &amp; school visits than you can count.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s just the start.  With as mild as his particular syndrome is, he has a full squadron of therapists following him around.  Speech therapy, physical therapy, occupational therapy&#8230; plus an emotional tutor to teach him to recognise emotion in others and how to properly respond.  That&#8217;s OUTSIDE of school.  In school, there&#8217;s a staff of a dozen who either work with him or follow his case, including from a para-pro who goes through the entire school day by his side.</p>
<p>And all Jett had was pills and a nanny?</p>
<p>I find it hard to believe that the Travolta family treated this child to the full spectrum of existing medical knowledge and yet kept it all under wraps from the press and church elders for what, 16 years?  They&#8217;re each shooting 2 movies a year, he&#8217;s flying jumbo jets to the Oprah Show, she&#8217;s guest starring on every sappy NBC drama ever produced, and they&#8217;re both promoting Zenuosity left and right when average parents of autistic children are having trouble squeezing a hot shower in between therapy appointments.</p>
<p>But never mind that.  Even if they silently treated their child to the best of standards of medicine, think of the wasted opportunity.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a big proponent of awareness advocacy, because frankly, you can Walk For The Cure until your feet fall off and that&#8217;s not gonna help the lab guy down in the windowless basement of Pfizer develop a damn thing.  But seriously, think of the good Travolta could have done for the world if he&#8217;d come out and said <i>&#8220;My kid has Autism and this is how you recognize the signs in your own toddler&#8230;&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Now think of the good he could have done if he&#8217;d come out and said <i>&#8220;My kid has Autism and the Church of Scientology is full of crap.&#8221;</i></p>
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