In the course of promoting her new tell-all memoir, ex-Miss California Carrie Prejean admitted to Sean Hannity yesterday — and the Today show again this morning — that yeah, that rumored sex tape exists.
Which seems to be a departure from the chapter in her book where she discusses how pornography is destroying our Christian society:
“Unfortunately, pornography has become mainstreamed — it rushes at us through big screens, portable screens; soft-core porn is on mainstream TV cable stations, hard-core porn is just a mouse click away on the internet, and the envelope of what seems acceptable seems to get pushed farther and farther as more and more people are exposed to this material.
“The result is that girls grow up in a culture where it is hard to have an innocent, healthy, normal view of themselves, how they should behave, how they should act, and how they should dress.
“Our bodies are temples of the Lord. We should earn respect and admiration for our hearts, not for showing skin to look sexy … I have since learned that your outer beauty can only get you so far in life.”
But the interesting thing is that instead of trying to sweep it under the rug, she seems to be focusing her media tour on “yeah, I’m a hypocrite. What are you going to do about it?”
Using hypocrisy to sell books? Unlike fallen-angel beauty queens, that’s something we’ve never seen before.
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There is quite the difference between making a private tape for your own personal viewing (not for blackmailing) and the wholesale marketing of pornography where it creeps into the arenas that younger (underage) people venture.
Putting “sexy” on a 10 year old panties? Making thongs for 8 year olds to buy? These things are identical to making your own private tape? Hardly.
Additionally, what is un-Christian about sharing your body with the one you love?
It’s clear you all have it out for her but you really can do better than this. Once she starts selling her tape online I will eat my words (and be first in line), until then the only thing emabrrassing is these attacks on her and Christianity in general with flawed arguments.
I agree with Hurricane. On a side note, I’d totally watch that tape. For.. research purposes, of course.
From TMZ… “there was a tape she had done as a teenager.” Whoops. Teenager? Guess we won’t be seeing the tape after all. Would this then be a youthful indiscretion?
Was she coerced into making it? Was she abused so she would? Is this somehow all George Bush’s fault? What exactly is Obama’s opinion on all of this? Oh look I stopped caring.
*sigh*
Somedays, I feel like the only one on earth without a sex tape…
Hmm. Time to fire up Limewire. For research purposes, of course.
Because she’s marketing this tape herself, presumably. It’s not that the boyfriend she sent it to turned out to be a sleazeball.
I agree with Hurricane. There’s a huge difference between pronography and making a personal sex tape when you’re a young idiot.
Personally, I’m not seeing the hypocracy in this particular instance.
I don’t.
P.S. It seems to me that Prejean’s primary sin is being sheltered. She was naive enough to think she could honestly answer a question about gay marriage without being pilloried. She was naive enough to think that she could send a video to somebody she loved without it going public. Live and learn.
I disagree. I think this has more to do with her being a 6′ 2″ tall statuesque blond, then it has to do with her religious views. Some of the nastiest stuff in the comments sections after a story about her come from… wait for it… women. That’s a big f****in surprise.
Well here’s where I see the hypocrisy.
1. Carrie does nude modeling photos, then complains about how porn is destroying society.
2. Carrie tapes a erm, “solo session?” for a boyfriend, then writes “Our bodies are temples of the Lord. We should earn respect and admiration for our hearts, not for showing skin to look sexy.” Since she wasn’t married to the guy, that’s kind of a no-no for Christians. Not something you would do with a temple of the Lord. And that’s not the way to earn respect and admiration for your heart.
All she needed to say is “I was young and stupid and I’ve since realized why I shouldn’t have done those things and blah blah blah and I wrote that book to help other girls learn from my mistakes.” Of course she might have said that. I haven’t really been following the story since there are way too many sex tapes to keep track of.
Oh, and there’s of course the added irony of a pageant queen talking about how outer beauty only gets you so far in life.
WAit, I am Catholic. Are you saying that we cannot find some time to enjoy ourselves? Showing your boyfriend a video of you versus having sex with him is different.
I am getting tired of hearing about her though. I did not like the fact that she was villanized for answering a question honestly to the head boob, but now I want this whole thing to go away. Perez too.
I’m with Hurricane – unless she starts trying to sell it, it’s not hypocritical. Right now saying she’s hypocritical for this is like saying someone’s a hypocrite if they disapprove of public nudity but walk around naked in their own home.
“The result is that girls grow up in a culture where it is hard to have an innocent, healthy, normal view of themselves, how they should behave, how they should act, and how they should dress.” say the former beauty contestant. because the swimwear portion of the miss america competition REALLY makes little girls comfortable with there bodies.
“Our bodies are temples of the Lord”
Where do I sign up to visit this temple??
“I think of my body as a temple…or at least a well-managed Presbyterian youth center,” – Emo Phillips
Oh, and Minnow – I don’t have one either.
If God had intended for us to go around naked, we would’ve been born nak…. never mind.
@AAW: I guess I was a bit unclear. I’m a former Catholic/current Protestant myself. My position is not that Carrie having a little alone time is wrong, or even that her having some fun time and shipping off the video to her boyfriend is wrong. (My personal position on morality and the church is that God’s the only one with any right to judge anyone. And my personal position on doing THAT is that it doesn’t hurt anybody and resulted in a hilarious Seinfeld episode once.)
I only meant to state that it is contradictory to talk about her body being a temple and earning respect and admiration for our hearts, then make a video like that for a non-husband. It has nothing to do with my own personal beliefs on such things, since I’m no saint either and am in no position to judge her. Furthermore, I have no problem with her statement or her actions on their own. But when combined, her behavior seems to conflict with her OWN beliefs.
And I agree that she’s under WAY too much scrutiny. I’m not against gay marriage, but I believe she had a right to say what she said without being called a “dumb b****” or whatever it was. I’ve lost interest too.
I understand,and wasn’t she under scrunity from this Shanna Moakler person or whoever was the spokesperson for California pagent who posed for Playboy? Wasn’t she calling the kettle black back then when Prejeen was under fire? Oh wait, I guess it is only for us Conservative women to be under fire.
I’m pretty sure if she’d ended “it’s hard for girls to have a normal, healthy, innocent view of themselves” with a discussion of her own struggle to act in a normal, healthy, innocent fashion, that would be entirely appropriate.
The omission doesn’t make it hypocritical.
I still say the main hypocrisy here is how she said porn is bad, having done semi-nude modeling.
And @Joshua: I think that would have been perfect. “Here’s how society views and treats women, here’s how porn effects our society, and here’s how all this effected me. I screwed up. I shouldn’t have contributed to all this by doing nude modeling.” END.
Yeah, I’m seeing some sweet delicious irony, but not a whole lot of hypocrisy. She doesn’t appear to be saying that it was OK for her to do it, but not OK for you to do it.
A lot of us did things as teenagers we now know was dumb.
“It’s clear you all have it out for her”
You DO realize there’s more than one way to take that…
[backs out slowly]
Her semi-nude modeling was no worse than what miley cyrus did. Showing your naked back is not “pornography”. A tape of you masturbating that a scumbag ex sells is not “pornography”. There is no hypocrisy here (on her part) but plenty to be seen nonetheless.
To all the catholics – Isn’t masturbation a sin? It was when I was growing up but things might have changed with the way religions have become so a la carte.
“I still say the main hypocrisy here is how she said porn is bad, having done semi-nude modeling”
Semi-nude modeling is porn? Who is the puritan here?
D—, as far as I know, they still consider it a sin. At least, it was a sin when I was a teenager (and I’m only 23, so it probably still is). The church sees anything involving lust for a non-spouse to be a sin, so pornography, masturbation, and any kind of sex outside of marriage is out. (I don’t know what their position is on masturbation while married.) My personal favorite Catholic expression related to where the line is: if it gets up, you get up. Off topic, but I thought it was worth sharing.
and Ivan,
“Unfortunately, pornography has become mainstreamed…soft-core porn is on mainstream TV cable stations…the envelope of what seems acceptable seems to get pushed farther and farther as more and more people are exposed to this material…we should earn respect and admiration for our hearts, not for showing skin to look sexy.”
I don’t consider myself a puritan, but the label doesn’t really bother me. *shrugs*. I’m a girl. I have breasts. Pictures of breasts don’t upset me. (What does irk me a little is how pretty much all nudity on tv or in films is female nudity, but that’s another topic entirely.)
Again though, the question isn’t whether she did something that conflicts with my beliefs, it’s whether she did something that conflicts with her own. She considers what we see on mainstream TV to be softcore porn (and I don’t know whether she’s talking about Desperate Housewives or Sex and the City or skinemax, so maybe I’m wrong), so by her own definition, wouldn’t semi-nude modeling be porn? Did those photos cause pornography to be more or less mainstreamed? Did those photos push the envelope of what’s acceptable, and did she cause more people to be exposed to material she objects to? Was she earning respect and admiration for her heart in those photos, or was she showing skin to look sexy?
PS: I thought the Miley Cyrus circus was hilarious since there were far worse photos of her circulating the internet at the time. I miss the headlines on Deceiver. “Miley Cyrus: still 15, still has digital camera”
@Owitzia I couldn’t agree more. Her statement is what makes this hypocritical: “Our bodies are temples of the Lord. We should earn respect and admiration for our hearts, not for showing skin to look sexy.” Yes, this certainly is in line with her swimsuit competition. I’m sure she did it for religious reason, not to “look sexy”, but how does that explain her low cut dress? Isn’t that showing skin to be sexy? She has been running around the country as the arbiter of moral values and now we all need to feel sorry for her because she doesn’t have the morals she expects the rest of us to maintain? This has nothing to do with her comments about gay marriage. It is about her “do as I say, not as I do” attitude that SOME smug Christians and public figures seem to think is their right. They, and she, assume that they are morally superior so they don’t have to follow the same rules as the rest of us rubes.
It’s sad that she has rocks where her thinking meat should be, because she is actually rather beautiful. I don’t have anything against her myself, but… I know a PR move when I see one.
none of this has to do with her alleged religious beliefs nor hypocrisy therein. she made her typically dim-witted pageant queen answer to a current events question (“americans have the right to choose same-sex marriage or opposite marriage” ?? uhh..no carrie.. that’s the whole issue). some people liked her response..others didn’t..so what? it’s ridiculous how her little non-story has become a cause celebre for the alleged persecution of so-called christians. far from having been silenced, she has turned this manufactured kerfuffle into a mini-career. what she and her new ‘christian’ friends can’t stand is that others have free speech rights as well and that the rest of us are allowed to criticize. the girl was willingly exploited by a group for whom their life’s work has been to deny equality under the law for gay citizens. (who is persecuting whom??) and was convinced by them that her new ‘victim’ status was reason to sue the pageant for her dismissal. the pageant officials had every right to defend themselves against her ill-advised suit by pointing out that her various, lied-about, indiscretions violated the morals clause of her contract. besides the masturbation tape, there are the “wind blew my shirt open” professionally-shot topless photos of which she was certainly aware before swearing that no such things existed in her (recent) past. that she continues to make excuses for her behavior is laughable since, when confronted with her past, she dropped the suit like a hot rock. now she’s back to whining on her book tour about how she’s the most persecuted person on the planet. puh-leeze. enough already.
el polacko – I hear what you are saying but you are forgetting the timeline of events. She was asked a question, she gave an honest answer, she was attacked and called names for giving that answer, she defended herself (not in the greatest fashion but…) and then all the pics and video’s surfaced.
Not that she isn’t hypocrite or that this whole thing is ridiculous but if people have a right to their opinion then so does she. How would anyone of us like it if Simon asked our opinions, did not like our answer, then started digging up dirt and plastering it all over this website?
D—! Shush! You’ll give Simon ideas!
Say…
she’s not digging up dirt on herself.
and she’s allowed to respond. how is that infringing on your free speech?
sounds like somebody’s not so keen on free speech after all…
eh-hem…
I’d just like to point out to certain puritans of opportunity here that nudity rarely equals porn.
I’ve drawn a hell of a lot of nudity in my studio and never once have I heard any funky bass riffs. Unless you wanna count the disarticulated testicular hemangioma. Although that one usually has the opposite effect on my male friends.
Bom chickka wow wow…
Zinnnng! You go Simon. I read El Polako’s post and felt the same as you but could not have said it better. Me thinks El Polako may have a problem with views different from his/hers.
Go El Polanko! These people can criticize all they want but as soon as someone criticizes them, they are infringing on their free speech rights. Once again, free speech is the fact that the GOVERNMENT can make no laws restricting speech. The GOVERNMENT has done nothing, so her rights, as well as those criticizing her, have not been infringed in any way. People like her use free speech as a red herring. She said something controversial. Yes, she was criticized for her answer as was the scumbag Perez Hilton for asking the question. None of this has anything to do with lying by signing a contract with a morals clause that she KNEW she had already broken. (Maybe she had her fingers crossed. Doesn’t it count as a lie or sin, even if you are Christian?) She was sued by the pageant because she refused to perform her duties and choose to become a public victim and spokesperson for the right. That is what opened the doors for the pictures and the video. Remember the bible, Miss Cristian Standards: “Let ye amoung you without sin cast the first stone.” (I paraphrase.) Seems she even stopped reading the bible or has forgotten all that she was taught.
By the way, Donald Trump finally criticized her today. He said she portrayed herself as a nun, but obviously, didn’t act like one. I thought it would be a cold day in hell before I ever agreed with a word he said.
Now, now. He can stick around if he wants.
Yeah, ’cause sh!t doesn’t stir ITSELF, you know.
Masterbation is a sin? Dang, what else am I suppose to do while hubby is deployed?
Pray, duh. That should fulfill all your needs.
….she said as she looked for new storage ideas for the house she shares with her boyfriend, which she doesn’t think Jesus is upset about.
Oh Pearce…I wanted to say that but couldn’t bring myself to do so. I was raised Catholic, so I have a hard time making such jokes.
And as a sidenote to your second comment, my grandmother was strongly urging me to move in with my boyfriend last week because she doesn’t like me living alone. My grandma is an old school Catholic. My brain overheated from trying to put those two facts together.
And Minnow, in case I’m the “puritan of opportunity”:
I have no doubt that your drawings are art, not porn. Certainly not all nude images are porn, though I do enjoy teasing my boyfriend about some of the artwork he has in his room nonetheless. I just happen to think that Carrie’s photos were somewhere in the middle of that art — porn spectrum, leaning more toward the porn end.
@Pearce – For storage ideas, Ikea is your friend.