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	<title>Comments on: Twilight&#8217;s Christian Serratos Is an Unfit PETA Spokesnude</title>
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		<title>By: Minnow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dumt-de-da-dum!  Here&#039;s my list of Demi aberrations:

1. Mandible Softening:  Demi&#039;s jawline has been altered twice.  First, they rounded off her square jaw.  Check the IMDb head shot, she has a very square face like Maria Shriver and Andie McDowell.  W cropped the mandible&#039;s back corner which rounded the entire jawbone, turning a beautiful square face to an average oval.  Second, they shaved skin and depth off the underside of her jawline.  Note that her face is slightly downward tilting.  All normal humans carry a bit of excess skin there which allows room to rotate or turn your face upwards.  This is that turkey wattle which aging women complain about.  Even in children with young tight skin, tilting the face downward causes this skin to fold.  EVERYONE has wattleage, everyone but Demi.

2. Missing Risorius Dimples: Look at the IMDb head shot of Demi&#039;s mouth.  She has a little muscular fold of skin on each side of her mouth.  When you smile, the Risorius muscle pulls back each corner of your mouth causing a fold in the skin immediately above the muscle.  Try it in a mirror sometime, we all have them.  Demi is someone who shows these folds all the time, even when not smiling.  As an illustrator, you try not to draw too many wrinkles on a face, but I always include Risorius folds because they&#039;re distinctive and attractive.  W wiped them right off.

That was the face, both modifications make her rather unrecognizable.  Now the body...

3. Giraffe Neck: Like PeTA&#039;s shot of Christian, Demi&#039;s neck is elongated.  You can see where they cut and pasted a new head on the elongated neck.

4. Alien Clavicles: I don&#039;t know what the hell they did with her clavicles but it looks painful.  You could hang your entire off-season wardrobe off dem bones.

5. Torso Shortened and Narrowed: Check out the IMDb shot of Demi &amp; Cameron.  Remember that &lt;i&gt;3 head lengths from above the clavicle to the bottom of the pubic triangle&lt;/i&gt; rule?  Cameron deviates from the rule with a naturally short torso.  Demi has the opposite body type, her torso is longer than average.  W created a demi-Demi, about 2 and a smidge heads.  I&#039;d draw her at 3 and a smidge.

6. Bigger Scale Breasts:  I think the photoshoppers cut Demi along the underwire bra line below each breast and pasted that Head/Breast photo onto a new smaller torso.  Her breasts kinda look like they&#039;re lunging out into space, much like the shark from Jaws 3-D.

7. Triceps:  She ain&#039;t got none.

8. One Really Loooooong Arm: When they cropped her at the breasts, I think they used her right arm from the large shot and her left arm from the shrinky-dink version.  Her poor hands are two different fricken sizes, for Ashton&#039;s sake!!! (You were close, Pearce)

9. Scarlette O&#039;Hara Waist: From the Cameron &amp; Demi shot, I&#039;d classify Demi as having a boy body, she&#039;s a rectangle.  So for W, either Mammy laced her into Scarlette&#039;s corset or she donated some ribs to charity.

10. Thighectomy: Not surgical, I think they just used a bottle of white out.  Next time guys, could&#039;ya try to make &#039;em match?  Her left knee is slightly turned out so you would see slightly more thickness on that thigh, but you could drive an 18-wheeler through her crotchular area.

AllyKat: you questioned her small head.  I&#039;m actually okay with it based on the shoulder span.  Average shoulder span should be just short of 2 head lengths and she matches up.  Maybe the epaulettes are throwing you off.  Think how football and hockey players seem to have small heads.  It&#039;s really an illusion from the shoulder pad size.  We all wore small heads in the 80&#039;s.

As for the missing hip flesh: Remember my theory about the cut &amp; paste breasts and mis-matched arms?  I think everything above the nifty hip sash is from the mini photo.  Everything below the sash is back to normal size.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dumt-de-da-dum!  Here&#8217;s my list of Demi aberrations:</p>
<p>1. Mandible Softening:  Demi&#8217;s jawline has been altered twice.  First, they rounded off her square jaw.  Check the IMDb head shot, she has a very square face like Maria Shriver and Andie McDowell.  W cropped the mandible&#8217;s back corner which rounded the entire jawbone, turning a beautiful square face to an average oval.  Second, they shaved skin and depth off the underside of her jawline.  Note that her face is slightly downward tilting.  All normal humans carry a bit of excess skin there which allows room to rotate or turn your face upwards.  This is that turkey wattle which aging women complain about.  Even in children with young tight skin, tilting the face downward causes this skin to fold.  EVERYONE has wattleage, everyone but Demi.</p>
<p>2. Missing Risorius Dimples: Look at the IMDb head shot of Demi&#8217;s mouth.  She has a little muscular fold of skin on each side of her mouth.  When you smile, the Risorius muscle pulls back each corner of your mouth causing a fold in the skin immediately above the muscle.  Try it in a mirror sometime, we all have them.  Demi is someone who shows these folds all the time, even when not smiling.  As an illustrator, you try not to draw too many wrinkles on a face, but I always include Risorius folds because they&#8217;re distinctive and attractive.  W wiped them right off.</p>
<p>That was the face, both modifications make her rather unrecognizable.  Now the body&#8230;</p>
<p>3. Giraffe Neck: Like PeTA&#8217;s shot of Christian, Demi&#8217;s neck is elongated.  You can see where they cut and pasted a new head on the elongated neck.</p>
<p>4. Alien Clavicles: I don&#8217;t know what the hell they did with her clavicles but it looks painful.  You could hang your entire off-season wardrobe off dem bones.</p>
<p>5. Torso Shortened and Narrowed: Check out the IMDb shot of Demi &amp; Cameron.  Remember that <i>3 head lengths from above the clavicle to the bottom of the pubic triangle</i> rule?  Cameron deviates from the rule with a naturally short torso.  Demi has the opposite body type, her torso is longer than average.  W created a demi-Demi, about 2 and a smidge heads.  I&#8217;d draw her at 3 and a smidge.</p>
<p>6. Bigger Scale Breasts:  I think the photoshoppers cut Demi along the underwire bra line below each breast and pasted that Head/Breast photo onto a new smaller torso.  Her breasts kinda look like they&#8217;re lunging out into space, much like the shark from Jaws 3-D.</p>
<p>7. Triceps:  She ain&#8217;t got none.</p>
<p>8. One Really Loooooong Arm: When they cropped her at the breasts, I think they used her right arm from the large shot and her left arm from the shrinky-dink version.  Her poor hands are two different fricken sizes, for Ashton&#8217;s sake!!! (You were close, Pearce)</p>
<p>9. Scarlette O&#8217;Hara Waist: From the Cameron &amp; Demi shot, I&#8217;d classify Demi as having a boy body, she&#8217;s a rectangle.  So for W, either Mammy laced her into Scarlette&#8217;s corset or she donated some ribs to charity.</p>
<p>10. Thighectomy: Not surgical, I think they just used a bottle of white out.  Next time guys, could&#8217;ya try to make &#8216;em match?  Her left knee is slightly turned out so you would see slightly more thickness on that thigh, but you could drive an 18-wheeler through her crotchular area.</p>
<p>AllyKat: you questioned her small head.  I&#8217;m actually okay with it based on the shoulder span.  Average shoulder span should be just short of 2 head lengths and she matches up.  Maybe the epaulettes are throwing you off.  Think how football and hockey players seem to have small heads.  It&#8217;s really an illusion from the shoulder pad size.  We all wore small heads in the 80&#8217;s.</p>
<p>As for the missing hip flesh: Remember my theory about the cut &amp; paste breasts and mis-matched arms?  I think everything above the nifty hip sash is from the mini photo.  Everything below the sash is back to normal size.</p>
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		<title>By: Beige</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beige</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Minnow, I don&#039;t have 3D vision, so it&#039;s hard for me to pick out stuff that&#039;s visually wrong.  To me, EVERYBODY looks like a cutout.  And also, I&#039;m on hardcore flu meds.  Which is like being rilly rilly DRONK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Minnow, I don&#8217;t have 3D vision, so it&#8217;s hard for me to pick out stuff that&#8217;s visually wrong.  To me, EVERYBODY looks like a cutout.  And also, I&#8217;m on hardcore flu meds.  Which is like being rilly rilly DRONK.</p>
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		<title>By: Owitzia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owitzia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, Minnow, I think your daughter hit the nail on the head.  When I was looking at that picture, I couldn&#039;t think of what Christian reminded me of.  It&#039;s definitely a centaur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, Minnow, I think your daughter hit the nail on the head.  When I was looking at that picture, I couldn&#8217;t think of what Christian reminded me of.  It&#8217;s definitely a centaur.</p>
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		<title>By: Pearce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pearce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Her upper arms are different widths.</description>
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		<title>By: Minnow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So to summarize Allykat:

1. Head too small
2. Neck/upper chest oddity
3. Torso narrowed
4. Shoulder width too wide
5. Jawline alteration
6. Cheekbone contouring
7. Thigh diameters mismatched
8. Forearms thinned
9. Waist narrowed
10. Hip curvature oddity

I&#039;m not saying aye or nay to anything yet, just summarizing.

Anyone else want to play?

BTW, I&#039;d love someone who regularly retouches photography to chirp in.  I&#039;m looking at Christian &amp; Demi anatomically, what deviates from normal range.  I&#039;m sure there are digital tells which can confirm/dispute what I see.

Come on, don&#039;t be chicken, peoples.  What else looks odd?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So to summarize Allykat:</p>
<p>1. Head too small<br />
2. Neck/upper chest oddity<br />
3. Torso narrowed<br />
4. Shoulder width too wide<br />
5. Jawline alteration<br />
6. Cheekbone contouring<br />
7. Thigh diameters mismatched<br />
8. Forearms thinned<br />
9. Waist narrowed<br />
10. Hip curvature oddity</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying aye or nay to anything yet, just summarizing.</p>
<p>Anyone else want to play?</p>
<p>BTW, I&#8217;d love someone who regularly retouches photography to chirp in.  I&#8217;m looking at Christian &amp; Demi anatomically, what deviates from normal range.  I&#8217;m sure there are digital tells which can confirm/dispute what I see.</p>
<p>Come on, don&#8217;t be chicken, peoples.  What else looks odd?</p>
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		<title>By: AllyKat</title>
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		<dc:creator>AllyKat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Her head looks too small, the neck and chest area (up around the collarbone) look funny, but I can&#039;t tell exactly what was done to make it look like she is straining to lift weights. I don&#039;t know if her shoulders are actually that broad in comparison to the rest of her, but with the puny head and skinny torso, they look really wide. It looks like her jawline was altered, but that might just be because of all the cheekbone contouring and the different facial expression. Her thighs don&#039;t match, and if they continue on the slant or even at the line they are following when cut off, she has some freaky knees (unless they are bulging as much as her elbows). Her upper arms look like they took out too much and tried to define with shadowing, but they just look funny to me. If they curved in like that before the elbows, her forearms would also be super skinny close to the elbow, but instead, they look somewhat normal (for a thin, not emaciated person). Her waist looks slimmed, and the aforementioned hips not only are missing the chunk on one side, they don&#039;t match in curvature. One is clearly larger and more curved, while the missing chunk one is waaay too straight. No one is perfectly symmetrical, but most people are not that extreme.

I don&#039;t know how much of this is accurate, and how much a single alteration might alter the look of other body parts, but those are the things that looked funny in a way that I could articulate easily. Something about her torso between the neck and waist seems off to me, but I can&#039;t figure out what it is, other than the above.

Watch-Me-Grow Skipper sounds as disturbing as Pregnant Midge, whose baby could be taken out of her belly. The concept might have sounded good, but how these dolls got past the test groups is beyond me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Her head looks too small, the neck and chest area (up around the collarbone) look funny, but I can&#8217;t tell exactly what was done to make it look like she is straining to lift weights. I don&#8217;t know if her shoulders are actually that broad in comparison to the rest of her, but with the puny head and skinny torso, they look really wide. It looks like her jawline was altered, but that might just be because of all the cheekbone contouring and the different facial expression. Her thighs don&#8217;t match, and if they continue on the slant or even at the line they are following when cut off, she has some freaky knees (unless they are bulging as much as her elbows). Her upper arms look like they took out too much and tried to define with shadowing, but they just look funny to me. If they curved in like that before the elbows, her forearms would also be super skinny close to the elbow, but instead, they look somewhat normal (for a thin, not emaciated person). Her waist looks slimmed, and the aforementioned hips not only are missing the chunk on one side, they don&#8217;t match in curvature. One is clearly larger and more curved, while the missing chunk one is waaay too straight. No one is perfectly symmetrical, but most people are not that extreme.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how much of this is accurate, and how much a single alteration might alter the look of other body parts, but those are the things that looked funny in a way that I could articulate easily. Something about her torso between the neck and waist seems off to me, but I can&#8217;t figure out what it is, other than the above.</p>
<p>Watch-Me-Grow Skipper sounds as disturbing as Pregnant Midge, whose baby could be taken out of her belly. The concept might have sounded good, but how these dolls got past the test groups is beyond me.</p>
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		<title>By: Minnow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot AllyKat!

OMG with a cherry on top, I hadn&#039;t yet found the Demi Moore cover hullabaloo!

How&#039;zabout we play a game?

After a quick glance at Demi&#039;s pic, I see 10 obvious alterations, NOT including the missing hip flesh.  Let&#039;s see if members here can find them (and maybe a couple I didn&#039;t catch).

Here&#039;s the cover:  http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/a-line/demi-moores-w-cover-worst-photoshop-ever/306?nc

Here&#039;s two candid references:
Face-  http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1477024256/nm0000193
Body-  http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2189859072/nm0000193

Hint: I picked the surf shot with Cameron for a reason.  Oh and it&#039;s 2 facial, 8 body errors.

I showed my daughter both the Ralph Lauren and the Christian/PeTA shot so that we could talk about dysmorphic body photography.  I&#039;ll show her the Demi one tonight.  All three are concrete lessons why even the prettiest people can&#039;t meet today&#039;s media standards.

My daughter&#039;s response to the Christian shot was &quot;She kinda looks like a centaur, mom.&quot;  Indeed.

Okay, 10 alterations on the Demi photo.  Ready, set, go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot AllyKat!</p>
<p>OMG with a cherry on top, I hadn&#8217;t yet found the Demi Moore cover hullabaloo!</p>
<p>How&#8217;zabout we play a game?</p>
<p>After a quick glance at Demi&#8217;s pic, I see 10 obvious alterations, NOT including the missing hip flesh.  Let&#8217;s see if members here can find them (and maybe a couple I didn&#8217;t catch).</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the cover:  <a href="http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/a-line/demi-moores-w-cover-worst-photoshop-ever/306?nc" rel="nofollow">http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/a-line/demi-moores-w-cover-worst-photoshop-ever/306?nc</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s two candid references:<br />
Face-  <a href="http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1477024256/nm0000193" rel="nofollow">http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1477024256/nm0000193</a><br />
Body-  <a href="http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2189859072/nm0000193" rel="nofollow">http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2189859072/nm0000193</a></p>
<p>Hint: I picked the surf shot with Cameron for a reason.  Oh and it&#8217;s 2 facial, 8 body errors.</p>
<p>I showed my daughter both the Ralph Lauren and the Christian/PeTA shot so that we could talk about dysmorphic body photography.  I&#8217;ll show her the Demi one tonight.  All three are concrete lessons why even the prettiest people can&#8217;t meet today&#8217;s media standards.</p>
<p>My daughter&#8217;s response to the Christian shot was &#8220;She kinda looks like a centaur, mom.&#8221;  Indeed.</p>
<p>Okay, 10 alterations on the Demi photo.  Ready, set, go!</p>
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		<title>By: Minnow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a Watch Me Grow Skipper too, Beige.  Mine was the Dahmer version where you grabbed her by the head and legs, then pulled her long or squinched her short.  Yep, it was pretty oogie-boogie to feel each vertebrae disarticulate, pop-pop-pop-pop.

Pearce: I&#039;m a big fan of the Socratic method with my kids.  &lt;i&gt;Are there movies you&#039;re not allowed to see?  Why?  Were you allowed to watch Twilight?  Why aren&#039;t you ready for mature themes?  If you weren&#039;t ready for the movie, why are you ready for the book?&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, it doesn&#039;t have much to do with Socrates, I just like watchin&#039;em squirm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a Watch Me Grow Skipper too, Beige.  Mine was the Dahmer version where you grabbed her by the head and legs, then pulled her long or squinched her short.  Yep, it was pretty oogie-boogie to feel each vertebrae disarticulate, pop-pop-pop-pop.</p>
<p>Pearce: I&#8217;m a big fan of the Socratic method with my kids.  <i>Are there movies you&#8217;re not allowed to see?  Why?  Were you allowed to watch Twilight?  Why aren&#8217;t you ready for mature themes?  If you weren&#8217;t ready for the movie, why are you ready for the book?</i></p>
<p>Actually, it doesn&#8217;t have much to do with Socrates, I just like watchin&#8217;em squirm.</p>
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		<title>By: Tal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhhh! Could you guys do me a favor and put bare butts behind a cut? I&#039;m looking at this in public...</description>
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		<title>By: David Maggard</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Maggard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone else seen the BK/New Moon commercial? Not very peta friendly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone else seen the BK/New Moon commercial? Not very peta friendly.</p>
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